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Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

CaptainCourtesy said:
I'm not sure how this has anything to do with gun control. I CAN see how this would have something to do with sperm control.
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Well, if you can't control your own gun, maybe that person doesn't need to have one in the first place.

Like the dingbat whose 2 year old killed his mother in a Wallmart recently. Stupid is as stupid does.
 
AJiveMan said:
Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

Toddler was a good shot, too bad the parents were stupid enough to leave wife's purse with a loaded gun in it for the kid to reach.

More irresponsibility from gun owners.

Authorities have taken their child away from them for the time being, but maybe too late.
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From "gun owners." You mean stupid people? This had nothing to do with "gun owners." That issue will never face me. Why? Because I don't leave my guns out where kids can get them!!!!
 
Texmex said:
Maybe the kid didn't want his parents genes to spread any farther. He may know something we don't.
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Like don't keep your freakin gun in reach of a kid? I don't feel bad for the parents.
 
Goshin said:
There is no category of persons that can be devised, which numbers in the millions, that does not include a few idiots, and an occasional brain-fart. This does not change the fact that tens of millions of gun owners had zero incidents this year, most of whom had zero incidents EVER.
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No no no! The millions of non accidents doesn't count!!!
 
AJiveMan said:
Well, if you can't control your own gun, maybe that person doesn't need to have one in the first place.

Like the dingbat whose 2 year old killed his mother in a Wallmart recently. Stupid is as stupid does.
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This is a reflection on stupid PARENTS or stupid GUN OWNERS, not on guns in general.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
This is a reflection on stupid PARENTS or stupid GUN OWNERS, not on guns in general.
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We have stupid parents too we just don't compound their stupidity with even more stupid gun laws that can make this sort of incident happen far too easily :(
 
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AJiveMan said:
Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

Toddler was a good shot, too bad the parents were stupid enough to leave wife's purse with a loaded gun in it for the kid to reach.

More irresponsibility from gun owners.

Authorities have taken their child away from them for the time being, but maybe too late.
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Uhm.....nice sbot ? Not sure what to sya here and it does seem impressive for a toddler.
 
flogger said:
We have stupid parents too we just don't compound their stupidity with even more stupid gun laws that can make this sort of incident happen far too easily :(
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Just because we have stupid parents doesn't mean that we have to put into place restrictive laws towards ALL parents. What we need to do is punish those stupid parents fairly harshly.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Just because we have stupid parents doesn't mean that we have to put into place restrictive laws towards ALL parents. What we need to do is punish those stupid parents fairly harshly.
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Hmmm.

Or MAYBE - and I know this might sound kinda crazy- we should allow gun ownership for people only if they undergo safety training and can be considered reasonably competent.
 
flogger said:
We have stupid parents too we just don't compound their stupidity with even more stupid gun laws that can make this sort of incident happen far too easily :(
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Gun laws don't make this easy. Being stupid does. I have a loaded handgun with me RIGHT NOW. This kind of incident won't happen to me. Now. Or ever. Why? Same reason you won't see me die for not wearing a seatbelt.
 
Owning a gun makes sense and shooting them is fun. However many gun-obsessed take it to the next level, seems like firearms become a sexual thing. Compensating for what's lacking in other areas so to speak.
 
Threegoofs said:
Hmmm.

Or MAYBE - and I know this might sound kinda crazy- we should allow gun ownership for people only if they undergo safety training and can be considered reasonably competent.
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I have no issue with safety training for people who own guns. Competency, however, does not prevent stupidity.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
I have no issue with safety training for people who own guns. Competency, however, does not prevent stupidity.
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You'd be surprised how a minimal requirement for competency can dramatically weed out the stupid and lazy.
 
Threegoofs said:
You'd be surprised how a minimal requirement for competency can dramatically weed out the stupid and lazy.
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I watch people drive every day. I dispute the theory you just presented.
 
The fact that there are those that get giddy and lust after devices that are designed to take life is bizarre to Me.
 
Threegoofs said:
Hmmm.

Or MAYBE - and I know this might sound kinda crazy- we should allow gun ownership for people only if they undergo safety training and can be considered reasonably competent.
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You're comparing apples and oranges.

In countries like Canada where people have to take safety courses, there is no tradition of the People using armed militias to keep the Fed in check. So it doesn't matter if their government gets to decide what "competent" means.

In the U.S., the Second Amendment is founded upon internal defense of the People from the rise of tyranny. Letting the government decide the criteria for who can own guns and who can't creates a slippery slope of restricted access to firearms. In Canada, the average firearms course for first level (shotguns and long rifles) is $700, which means a class division of who can afford to become eligible.

I'm in favor of restricting firearms from people who are certifiably dangerous or crazy. No law can prevent stupidity. In Canada last year a man had his gun safe open at home to clean some of his arms, and his child went into the bedroom and accidentally shot herself while he was in the next room.

I enjoy Michael Foucaut's treatise on bio-power, whose premise is partly that in modern times, industrialized governments have become so overly concerned about preservation of life that they aggressively make prevention laws whenever a very small number of people die. As a result, we have a bloated polity and legal system due to reactionaries. We don't need to make new laws every time someone dies. We have a nation of over 330 million people -- how many people die per year due to accidental gun death vs. the total number of gun owners is miniscule.

Reasonable laws to prevent injury and address liability are important for justice, but we can't prevent all death like the growth model wants us to. It's a law of nature... accidental death happens.
 
HenryChinaski said:
The fact that there are those that get giddy and lust after devices that are designed to take life is bizarre to Me.
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There are gun collectors and then there are merely private citizens who hunt or want self-protection. It's not that difficult to comprehend.

Go somewhere like Nashville and people love their guitars as much as they love their guns ;)
 
HenryChinaski said:
Guitars are designed to create, Firearms are designed to kill. I personally prefer to get giddy over guitars.
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I thought it was truly sick that the response to the Sandy Hook massacre was to rush out and empty the shelves of AR15's (the weapon used to do the massacre) in case they got banned

Only in the US I suppose so go figure :(
 
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