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Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

SouthernDemocrat said:
Well the majority of civilians - the voters you know - do not want us to go back into Iraq. So you are on the losing end of that argument. So if it is that important to you then go over there and help out the Peshmerga yourself.
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Sometimes leadership is required. It is such a shame we have no adult leadership at the national level.
 
iguanaman said:
So 100's of 1000's of troops for 10 years is "lack of military involvement"? More absurdity. We tried that and it failed miserably and made things worse. It is time to try something else....anything else.
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Maybe we should actually complete the win before an Islamofascist supporter occupies the White House.
 
Misterveritis said:
Maybe we should actually complete the win before an Islamofascist supporter occupies the White House.
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And how would you suggest we could win? The more we fight them the more join their ranks. The answer lies elsewhere.
 
Caine said:
Annnnnddd.....

You have nothing to back that claim up with either.

The whole "Dem Dere Mooslumz hate us fer R freedumbz" theory has failed to be proven.
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It has never been a secret, why so many in the ME hate America, though it has been ignored. The George W Bush list of reasons can't be found here.

Full text: bin Laden's 'letter to America'
Online document: the full text of Osama bin Laden's "letter to the American people", reported in today's Observer. The letter first appeared on the internet in Arabic and has since been translated and circulated by Islamists in Britain.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver
 
Misterveritis said:
And where was the great menace of that age?
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Irrelevant, funding religious fundamentalists to fight your enemy and then believing they won't turn around and look at you as their next logical target shows a lack of foresight. What? Did Reagan suddenly believe the crazy terrorists would go home and not take issue with the US' role in their countries? Did he believe that they wouldn't associate the US with US backed dictatorships? America's warhawks have very little foresight. They act and then expect everyone to deal with their failures. Just look at Iraq. Bush started the war, declared the surge a success and then signed withdrawal agreements. Now we have to deal with the aftermath of irrational foreign policies in the Middle East and Muslims. Again.
 
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iguanaman said:
Maliki was a Shiite terrorist who murdered Sunni's in their beds. He also took his orders from Tehran and they wanted us out. There was nothing Obama could do short of ousting Maliki and starting all over again.
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If only our nation had had a leader...The Effeminate One on the golf course was never that man. He was a community organizer, an agitator.
 
fmw said:
We need to make a decision. Either we are going to stay out of the fight or we are going to finish the job. There is no in between. The president wants to appease critics without deciding what to do either way. We should be able to finish ISIS in a few weeks if we apply our force as it should be applied. But I do agree that it isn't really our fight.
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So your solution is to turn your back on this generation's Holocaust? Never again? No. It is happening right now. We could stop it. Why won't we? I believe the answer is that The Effeminate One on the golf course prefers the chaos.
 
RDS said:
You had boots on the ground in Iraq before. Maybe some new boots can do a better job.
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The boots were just fine. The rules of engagement were not. If we want to win wars the enemy must be killed in gruesome ways, his places burned and laid desolate. We should try to actually win the next war.
 
Travis007 said:
The decision is the USA made a huge mistake with allowing the media to pollute the population that Obama was not who they sold us he was...

The world knows Obama is a zero and the Jihad knows this more then the people of the USA sadly..
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"The Media" is not the problem. As I always said when I was 'the media'....you watch it you are what it is. The media had no hand in the ratings, the people supplied that, they just served up the dish that most people wanted .

A handsome, intelligent social worker, raised without a father, a half black kid raised by whites, humble beginnings like Lincoln! A man who would sweep in with a new broom armed with neat, hopeful sounding words like "yes, we can!" and a record of voting "present" with a penchant for spending your money.....and millions bought it while never really looking too close. And now that that they have, those who spent the most cannot admit they were the fools, not once, not twice, but three times.....

Now please forgive the hockey metaphor but I'm Canadian and much to the annoyance of my mother was born with a hockey stick in my hand. When two teams skate on to the ice, we warm up skating circles in each of our zones, passing the other guys...where let them know how badly they are going to be ruined for life ahead of time "nice eyes, hope you keep both of them dickwad", this stick and your ass are a couple, they're engaged" and other impolite things.

Now here we have a team where the star player got the peace prize before the puck was dropped, before the anthem was sung he apologized and when the Russian team said "hey, that's my Crimea" he skated to the other end and called the zebras...

He gets one of his guys roughed up and out for the season and instead of calling his goon, he calls the FBI. He says "that's it, red line time" and then leaves the game when someone says 'what red line?"

Now I ask you, in the gentile sport of bare knuckle, missing teeth hockey, what the **** would I be worried about?
 
US Conservative said:
Politics colors ones worldview, manifested in international diplomacy, contrast the differences manifested in Carter, and Obama to Bush and Reagan. See how this works?
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Responding to me debating your theory on Liberarianism isn't debating the topic.

Or me really for that matter. My "lean" is listed due to one of those online answer these questions and we'll tell you what you are political chart thingies..... not because I follow a particular party.

Which means it is subject to error in that you can't put me and my political views in a vacuum and then attack it.
 
Caine said:
Responding to me debating your theory on Liberarianism isn't debating the topic.

Or me really for that matter. My "lean" is listed due to one of those online answer these questions and we'll tell you what you are political chart thingies..... not because I follow a particular party.

Which means it is subject to error in that you can't put me and my political views in a vacuum and then attack it.
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Libertarian or not you are still wrong. :2wave:
 
US Conservative said:
Libertarian or not you are still wrong. :2wave:
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Well....


With that logic... who can argue?


Sure... Let me just join it.....

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Fact
Boots are ALREADY on the ground................
 
US Conservative said:
The crusades were largely in response to islamic expansion. :2wave:
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And our meddling in middle eastern affairs is starting to look like the Crusades all over again.

Have you not noticed that everywhere we have meddled in the middle eastern affairs only political upheaval and radicalism seems to come out of it?
 
US Conservative said:
Good post. Today the Senate held a confirmation hearing for Ash Carter, potential sec of defense. Its refreshing to hear his clarity and resolve. He's also aware of the crap spin tactics of Obama.
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"ensure that they stay defeated...."

He may as well have said "we can't pull out on a personal whim anymore"
 
Caine said:
And our meddling in middle eastern affairs is starting to look like the Crusades all over again.

Have you not noticed that everywhere we have meddled in the middle eastern affairs only political upheaval and radicalism seems to come out of it?
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As already noted to you, political upheaval and radicalism in the ME have roots that have nothing to do with us.
 
Misterveritis said:
The boots were just fine. The rules of engagement were not. If we want to win wars the enemy must be killed in gruesome ways, his places burned and laid desolate. We should try to actually win the next war.
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Exactly, like what ISIS did. Burning the Jordanian pilot alive.
 
Jack Hays said:
As already noted to you, political upheaval and radicalism in the ME have roots that have nothing to do with us.
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And despite that....

Everywhere we get involved..... it turns to **** worse than it was before.
 
Caine said:
Annnnnddd.....

You have nothing to back that claim up with either.

The whole "Dem Dere Mooslumz hate us fer R freedumbz" theory has failed to be proven.
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Actually you are 100% wrong.

The topic of this thread is the actions and opinions of a potential Republican candidate for congress vis-a-vis the current state of affairs in Iraq based on the most recent history, which includes Obama's many, many failures.

The opinions and actions of these two men, as well as those around them should be the ONLY topic discussed based on forum rules.

I would suggest you tone down the anger and follow those rules...
 
Caine said:
And despite that....

Everywhere we get involved..... it turns to **** worse than it was before.
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No. I disagree. Syria is worse because we stayed out. Iraq was well on its way to a decent future before we abandoned our responsibility.
 
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