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You obviously haven't read the thread then.
The discussion you are responding to pertained to the origin of ISIS. It was my contention that ISIS would not exist were it for our going into Iraq in the first place back in 2003 and that going back in is pointless when the real problem is that the government of Iraq is so corrupt and inept that it cannot defeat ISIS in its own country when most estimates put the total size of ISIS in both Syria and Iraq as just 30,000 or so militants while the Iraqi Defense Force constitutes 271,500 active personnel and 528,000 in reserve (Iraqi Armed Forces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).
Even if some how we miraculously killed every single member of ISIS overnight, it would only be a matter of time before another Islamist group took its place. If a nation with a military the size of the one we left Iraq with cannot defend itself against just 30,000 militants, then what can we do other than occupy the nation indefinitely.
Moreover, origins of a terrorist organization do indeed matter because we don't want to simply create more such organizations by our actions. The entire neo-conservative ideology as it relates to terrorism was built around the notion that our containing and or supporting strong man dictators in the Middle East was the central catalyst for Islamic extremism and that by democratizing the Middle East we remove that catalyst for the creation of extremists. The traditional conservatives as well as many moderates believed that the only thing keeping radical Islam in check in much of the Middle East was the brutal repression by strongman dictators and attempting to impose western style democracy on a culture that never went through the enlightenment would only result in more terrorists.
In the case of Iraq, prior to our going in it was a country ruled by a dictator that was contained and no longer a threat to us. The forerunner to ISIS, Al Qaeda in Iraq did not exist until 2004 - after we went in. So we took a country that was contained and not a threat to us and created an environment that fostered the growth of radical Islamist groups that were a threat to us. So yes, facts and details do matter here.
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/uploads/Documents/pubs/ResearchNote_20_Zelin.pdf
http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf
How does ISIS get money? who funds them?..who allows them to be able to operate?... Obamas NOT WANTING A SOFA agreement was the reason ISIS exists today...Obama delcared the war OVER....the JIHAD did not agree...Obama only cared about VOTES... NOT LIVES..
You post is so error filled my mind is boggled... Did Saddam allow training of AQ?