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Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

Seems like there is one every year... yet how many are dying and how many were vaccinated and still got it? Interesting questions...

How many people died in car crashes while wearing seatbelts?

I'm just asking questions about seatbelts. How sure are you that seatbelts help?
 
Right, those fall into the conspiracy bunch. They don't trust the CDC, WHO, or NIH when they all say that the vaccines in CDC recommended vaccination schedules are among the safest medical procedures in use today and are an order of magnitude safer than even most over the counter medications.

I don't trust the CDC in that they publish incomplete findings and pass them as factually accurate.
 
Or that because there isn't mandatory and precautionary testing that takes place prior to vaccinations you might potentially be injecting your child with harmful and deadly chemicals.

Potentially? What, you think the doctors aren't aware of the contents?
 
I don't trust the CDC in that they publish incomplete findings and pass them as factually accurate.

For antivaxxers, "incomplete findings" means "findings that don't say what I think they should say."
 
For antivaxxers, "incomplete findings" means "findings that don't say what I think they should say."

Most of the time... not me though.
 
Do you really think your kid would die of the measles?

WHO | Measles

Key facts

Measles is one of the leading causes of death among young children even though a safe and cost-effective vaccine is available.
In 2013, there were 145 700 measles deaths globally – about 400 deaths every day or 16 deaths every hour.
Measles vaccination resulted in a 75% drop in measles deaths between 2000 and 2013 worldwide.
In 2013, about 84% of the world's children received one dose of measles vaccine by their first birthday through routine health services – up from 73% in 2000.
During 2000-2013, measles vaccination prevented an estimated 15.6 million deaths making measles vaccine one of the best buys in public health.

Measles is not akin to the common cold. It is a killer, a very serious disease that kills and brings lifelong complications... in my case, it attacked my eyesight, making me almost legally blind for much of my childhood. A simple and safe vaccine prevents that. People who refuse to get their healthy, non-allergic children vaccinated should be prosecuted for public health violations, in my opinion. A bunch of idiots who are playing Russian roulette not only with their own kids' lives, but the lives of babies too young to get vaccinated, immune-damaged sick children who aren't well enough to be vaccinated, and children allergic to components of the vaccination.

Words cannot express how disgusted I am by these parents.
 
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Why do pediatricians trust those same findings then?

Because they are ignorant... like my doctor who never reported an adverse reaction including my daughters even though reporting is a federal mandate.
 
Potentially? What, you think the doctors aren't aware of the contents?

Everybody reacts differently... one size fits all for vaccines is foolish.
 
I don't trust the CDC in that they publish incomplete findings and pass them as factually accurate.

Not to mention, they don't publish their lack of evidence. As we all know, it's the lack of evidence that's most important when it comes to vaccine awareness.
 
Everybody reacts differently... one size fits all for vaccines is foolish.

No, the vast majority of the population reacts exactly the same.
 
If that is true then what of alcoholics, drug users, religious fanatics?

I don't care about the wishes of anyone, there are things that need to be done for the good of society, regardless of someone's personal wishes on the subject.
 
Not to mention, they don't publish their lack of evidence. As we all know, it's the lack of evidence that's most important when it comes to vaccine awareness.

Seems like post #128 brought a lot to the conversation... but you want to mindlessly make hack comments instead?
 
I don't care about the wishes of anyone, there are things that need to be done for the good of society, regardless of someone's personal wishes on the subject.

The day vaccines are mandatory is the day that the USA is a failed state...

Vaccines FBI and NSA... just calm down.
 
No, the vast majority of the population reacts exactly the same.

Vast majority does not equal one size fits all.
 
I don't care about the wishes of anyone, there are things that need to be done for the good of society, regardless of someone's personal wishes on the subject.

That's quite a slippery slope.
 
Vast majority does not equal one size fits all.

If that is your standard of measurement, then there can be no standards because nothing ever fits everything 100%.
 
Seems like post #128 brought a lot to the conversation... but you want to mindlessly make hack comments instead?

Your argument is based around the fact that there is a lack of evidence concerning vaccines. You literally have nothing other than, "Well, anything is possible..."
 
That's quite a slippery slope.

Sure. Slippery slope to all sorts of terrible things like health codes for restaurants and recurrent training for pilots.
 
If that is your standard of measurement, then there can be no standards because nothing ever fits everything 100%.

Yet a one size fits all approach is what is being applied... quite illogical.
 
Vast majority does not equal one size fits all.

It's not as if one person will get superhuman powers from a vaccine, and the next will burst into flames. One size fits all because we are all from the same species. That has been strength of our medicine since the dawn of time.
 
Your argument is based around the fact that there is a lack of evidence concerning vaccines. You literally have nothing other than, "Well, anything is possible..."

Right... under/non reporting and incomplete reports are nicely swept under your rug... you literally have nothing other than, "Unknowns are meaningless since there is absolutely no way they can be possible." I remain open and prefer to find information and solutions rather than to stick my fingers in my ear like one fearful of what might be.
 
It's not as if one person will get superhuman powers from a vaccine, and the next will burst into flames. One size fits all because we are all from the same species. That has been strength of our medicine since the dawn of time.

Yet I am allergic to certain penicillin's. Hmmm...

So I guess that everybody is fine to eat strawberries and peanuts then? Didn't know that the same species argument trumped reality. Thanks...

I will let my daughter start swatting at bee hives now that I know she is free from danger.
 
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Sure. Slippery slope to all sorts of terrible things like health codes for restaurants and recurrent training for pilots.

You don't have to eat at a restaurant nor get in a plane or a car, for that matter. Forcing injections into a person is not analogous to his or your argument. Not even close.
 
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