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'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

jmotivator said:
No, it isn't a moot point. The reality is it is a threat that we SHOULD take seriously and actually do take seriously.

When the public doesn't take it seriously eventually the government will reflect that.... and you get random dudes showing up in the East Wing, or dinner parties.
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....yeah, that's going to happen alright :roll:
 
j-mac said:
For what it's worth, I don't think any rational person truly thinks that a band of ISIS fighters could get to the POTUS, but this isn't about whether it's possible, rather the policy of appeasement followed by this administration is worthless and only plays into the enemies hand. Like we have been saying for this entire failed Presidency.
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And that is exactly the point.
 
Ikari said:
So Obama made ISIS? I do think that the US indirectly had a hand in it, we destablilzed the region and haven't brought to an end 14 years of armed conflict yet, and so we're making prime terrorist breeding environments; but still I wouldn't hold Bush or Obama responsible for the terrorists. And there's likely credible threats that we could have debate or concern on, this threat is just some ramblings of crazy people and won't see the light of day.
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Obama absolutely did-what we see as ISIS today exits because he did not follow his staff's warnings, he ceded Iraq to them, and only now that thousands have died and millions have been displaced or are living under them in fear is he acting-and even then only piecemeal.
 
Erod said:
Forever. This started long before 9/11, and until you and I and everybody here is dead and rotting, these Islamic fundamentalists have sworn to never quit.
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And thats the military math we need to come to grips with. Wars are not fought based on a calendar-we are in this for the long haul, weather we like it or not.
 
You know what this thread screams to me?

Neocons are pushing this nonsense (like anyone reasonable takes these whackos seriously) to try to scare people into more tax money for the military AND more laws that allows the U.S. government to spy on anyone it wants (including Americans).
 
Ikari said:
Forever wars are stupid and only encourage unacceptable growth in government power and spending. If you can't give me a solution, then you don't have a solution. And without a solution, I don't think throwing wave after wave of our own men at the problem is going to change anything.
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Wars are fought to be won, not based on the amount of time it will take.
 
US Conservative said:
Obama absolutely did-what we see as ISIS today exits because he did not follow his staff's warnings, he ceded Iraq to them, and only now that thousands have died and millions have been displaced or are living under them in fear is he acting-and even then only piecemeal.
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I mean, I think in general the war efforts have been mishandled and poorly planned and there is no real goal other than forever war. But I don't think Obama made ISIS, the war effort led to an environment that plays well into terrorist propaganda and recruiting and they've done just that.
 
US Conservative said:
Wars are fought to be won, not based on the amount of time it will take.
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For reasonable time frames, but war cannot be supported forever and we'll just spend ourselves into collapse if we don't plan things out, make and end game, and get there. Infinity war is not a good thing.
 
US Conservative said:
They know American conservatives dont play that. They are trying to intimidate liberals into going home. Under the left, our enemies and adversaries are emboldened.
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....and, under the right the fertile garden was created, watered and fertilized.....
 
Ikari said:
I mean, I think in general the war efforts have been mishandled and poorly planned and there is no real goal other than forever war. But I don't think Obama made ISIS, the war effort led to an environment that plays well into terrorist propaganda and recruiting and they've done just that.
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Well you think wrong, ISIS was not a formidable enemy until Obama left Iraq to them. They simply filled the power vacuum left by us. I know the left does not want to believe that fact, but it is what it is in any case.
 
Ikari said:
For reasonable time frames, but war cannot be supported forever and we'll just spend ourselves into collapse if we don't plan things out, make and end game, and get there. Infinity war is not a good thing.
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When you say we are only in a war for a certain time interval you are telling your enemy hold out longer than this and you win. And thats not terribly difficult for a low-intensity asymmetric enemy.
 
MMC said:
:yawn:

Nah we don't see it.....what else you got with carrying BO peeps water.


How a Libyan city joined the Islamic State group

Video: Ex-Pakistan Taliban members join IS group, behead man

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...Taliban-militants-join-ISIS-video-shows-.html


An offshoot of the Middle East's Islamic State insurgency has begun operating on southern Afghanistan, less than three months after British combat troops withdrew from the region. A man identified as Mullah Abdul Rauf was actively recruiting fighters for the groups, flying black flags and, according to some sources, even battling Taliban militants. Local sources said Rauf, a former Guantanamo Bay prisoner, had set up his base in Helmand province and was offering good wages to anyone willing to fight for the Islamic State.

Rauf was released from Gitmo during the Bush administration, and is now setting up ISIS' outpost in Afghanistan, underscoring the terrible jihadist recidivism problem. Will any of these guys end up joining him?.....snip~

Jihad: Terror Suspects Killed, Arrested in Belgium; Officials Warn of Multiple 'Sleeper Cells' - Guy Benson
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Why oh why does it seem like you are actually pulling for the Terrorists to win????????

Is it because you don't like Obama?

It seems you resist any story that is positive on us and Negative on ISIS.

Its like you want them to win, for your own political reasons.
 
Caine said:
Why oh why does it seem like you are actually pulling for the Terrorists to win????????

Is it because you don't like Obama?

It seems you resist any story that is positive on us and Negative on ISIS.

Its like you want them to win, for your own political reasons.
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Why oh why is it you can't figure out when BO and the MS Media is not actually being truthful? Is it the job of the media to report the News.....whether they like it or not? Are they suppose to go with what BO's Press Team puts out or are they suppose to report the truth?

How many times do our own People have to come out and say that BO peep got it wrong again? How many times do we have to hear it from those who even worked with the Peep and his Lost sheep, then have them tell us how Peep was wrong?
 
MMC said:
Why oh why is it you can't figure out when BO and the MS Media is not actually being truthful? Is it the job of the media to report the News.....whether they like it or not? Are they suppose to go with what BO's Press Team puts out or are they suppose to report the truth?

How many times do our own People have to come out and say that BO peep got it wrong again? How many times do we have to hear it from those who even worked with the Peep and his Lost sheep, then have them tell us how Peep was wrong?
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You expect someone to take you seriously jabbering on about Bo Peep this and Bo Peep that.

You sound like a person so blind with rage that you'd actually pull for the terrorists just because they are up against Obama.

And You haven't even tried to deny it either.
 
Caine said:
You expect someone to take you seriously jabbering on about Bo Peep this and Bo Peep that.

You sound like a person so blind with rage that you'd actually pull for the terrorists just because they are up against Obama.

And You haven't even tried to deny it either.
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Oh, do you think any facts or truth changes all because of what I think about BO peep. How many years did I run around and hear the left call Bush Junior the Shrub and worse?

So save all that ridiculous BS.

Oh and the next time when the left jumps you around here and you start with the Whining and crying about it. Then get back to me.
 
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US Conservative said:
Well you think wrong, ISIS was not a formidable enemy until Obama left Iraq to them. They simply filled the power vacuum left by us. I know the left does not want to believe that fact, but it is what it is in any case.
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ISIS wasn't around in force until recently. But Obama may have followed Bush's lead and continued an ill planned and poorly executed war that led to conditions ideal for stronger terrorist groups like ISIS to develop. But he didn't make them.
 
US Conservative said:
When you say we are only in a war for a certain time interval you are telling your enemy hold out longer than this and you win. And thats not terribly difficult for a low-intensity asymmetric enemy.
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And if you're saying Infinity War, then you are no longer in this to win this either.
 
Ikari said:
ISIS wasn't around in force until recently. But Obama may have followed Bush's lead and continued an ill planned and poorly executed war that led to conditions ideal for stronger terrorist groups like ISIS to develop. But he didn't make them.
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Nothing Bush did excuses Obama ceding Iraq to ISIS and losing the peace there.
Obama is at the wheel-and ISIS is his baby.
 
MMC said:
Oh, do you think any facts or truth changes all because of what I think about BO peep. How many years did I run around and hear the left call Bush Junior the Shrub and worse?

So save all that ridiculous BS.

Oh and the next time when the left jumps you around here and you start with the Whining and crying about it. Then get back to me.
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There is nothing more pathetic than someone who is so stuck on the "Us vs Them" attitude towards "the left" that you'd be willing to sell out your own country so that the left would look bad.
 
US Conservative said:
Nothing Bush did excuses Obama ceding Iraq to ISIS and losing the peace there.
Obama is at the wheel-and ISIS is his baby.
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Nope, but Obama did just continue the war. This is what infinity war does. It knows no party affiliation, only power and greed. Bush destabilized Iraq and didn't finish the job in Afghanistan. Obama ios following wuit with opening up new war fronts without finishing the old ones first. Same ****, different day.
 
US Conservative said:
No, thats a false analogy. Committing to victory is not the same thing as your silly liberal "infinity war".

Grow up-you fight until your enemy is beaten.
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Grow up and think. 14 years of mismanaged military interventionism, and you want me to support an unspecified time of mismanaged military interventionism? That's stupid. All we've done is make it worse, so I guess if the goal is to continue making it worse then we should toe the line. But nothing in what we've done for over a decade already indicates that we are any closer to solving the problem. As such it is nothing more than a life and money sink.

I don't discount all war, but I will discount stupid war. We have the greatest military in the world, if we can't do it within 8 years, it's very probable we can affect the system along those lines of force.

Your platitudes serve no purpose other than to excuse gross government incompetience and the continued sacrafice of American lives and dollars.
 
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