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Group says 'American Sniper' film spurs threats against Muslims

MrVicchio said:
Settled Science: Pro-War On Terror Films Crush Anti-War On Terror Films at Box Office - Breitbart

I win. You can stop posting now.
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Breitbart is REALLY stretching to refer to almost ANY of those 18 movies as "anti-American." What a load of nonsense.

I've seen most of those. To describe The Hurt Locker as anti-American is the height of stupidity. And if that's the Breitbart writer's assessment of Munich (a film NOT about the GWOT and not about Americans), it's pretty clear he never saw the film.
 
Kobie said:
Breitbart is REALLY stretching to refer to almost ANY of those 18 movies as "anti-American." What a load of nonsense.

I've seen most of those. To describe The Hurt Locker as anti-American is the height of stupidity. And if that's the Breitbart writer's assessment of Munich, it's pretty clear he never saw the film.
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That's cause you nod your head to those movies. They all bombed at the theater because they were, anti-military/anti-american trash films. American Sniper... making money hand over fist with a very different message then any of those listed pretentious guilt fest **** films. And that just chaps your hide.
 
MrVicchio said:
That's cause you nod your head to those movies. They all bombed at the theater because they were, anti-military/anti-american trash films. American Sniper... making money hand over fist with a very different message then any of those listed pretentious guilt fest **** films. And that just chaps your hide.
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Really? When did I say word one about American Sniper (which I'll see at some point, since unlike your Breitbart hacks I actually know film and see things that get nominated)? Is this going to be another one of those times when you tell me what I think? That usually (read: never) works out very well for you.

How many on Breitbart's list have YOU seen? Have you seen The Hurt Locker? Have you seen Munich? Have you seen any of them?

Even Fox News referred to The Hurt Locker as "quietly pro-war."

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/02/02/james-p-pinkerton-hurt-locker-oscar-avatar-pro-war/

You seem to be operating under some delusion that films that are ostensibly anti-war are anti-American.
 
MrVicchio said:
Only to a certain sect of people that believe falsehoods of this Great Nation. They can piss off.
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You mean the words 'american' and 'patriot' only push buttons for that certain sect? Why would the government pass a law giving themselves new powers of surveillance and call it the USA Patriot Act? And please don't quote a contrived acronym- it's called that to make opposition to it appear unpatriotic. It's the same reason the word 'American' is in the movie title.
Worked on you, didn't it. Your panties wouldn't have gotten half so knotted over criticism of a movie called 'Sniper'.
 
Gathomas88 said:
What "hateful language directed at U.S. Arabs and Muslims?"

At worst, Kyle is shown refering to insurgents and insurgent sympathizers as being "savages." There are absolutely no instances of the term being used as a racial slur against Muslims or Arabs in general, let alone those living in the United States.
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Good point. And that really is a testament to Clint Eastwood as a director-
he makes Kyle sympathetic by actually showing signs of remorse after he killed the mother and kid (by the way there was no kid in the book and Kyle actually said he liked killing Iraqis and he had no problems with it)
he has really made the film as non-political as possible, however, many people from both sides, left and right, are pretty much drawing their own conclusions due to their own biases.
 
Grand Mal said:
You mean the words 'american' and 'patriot' only push buttons for that certain sect? Why would the government pass a law giving themselves new powers of surveillance and call it the USA Patriot Act? And please don't quote a contrived acronym- it's called that to make opposition to it appear unpatriotic. It's the same reason the word 'American' is in the movie title.
Worked on you, didn't it. Your panties wouldn't have gotten half so knotted over criticism of a movie called 'Sniper'.
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I'm mocking the anti sniper turds.
 
MrVicchio said:
I'm mocking the anti sniper turds.
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But my point is that both you and the 'anti-sniper' crowd are only bothering with it because of the word, 'American' in the title. Outwith that, it's just another war movie.
 
Grand Mal said:
But my point is that both you and the 'anti-sniper' crowd are only bothering with it because of the word, 'American' in the title. Outwith that, it's just another war movie.
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Nope you are wrong.
 
Gathomas88 said:
What "hateful language directed at U.S. Arabs and Muslims?"

At worst, Kyle is shown refering to insurgents and insurgent sympathizers as being "savages." There are absolutely no instances of the term being used as a racial slur against Muslims or Arabs in general, let alone those living in the United States.
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Agreed. Kyle was referring to Islamic extremists who are known to behead or otherwise kill people who are either non-muslims or are of a different sect of islam then they are. They earn the term "savages". ISIL in the last few weeks killed two teenage boys who's only crime was watching a soccer game on television.
 
I didnt see the movie but I read the book. With that level of detail, the distinctions are clearer, as well as why our troops viewed the hostile elements the way they did. Entirely justifiable that I remember. Cant remember every instance.
 
Kobie said:
Geez, he must really need the work. That Titanic money didn't last forever, apparently.

Anyway, does anyone see all the imaginary liberals in MrVicchio's head lauding this movie?
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Yea. It was certainly a ****ty thing to do; from a career perspective and otherwise.

In any case, I'm sure that Michael Moore probably liked it, if no one else. :lol:

PoS said:
Good point. And that really is a testament to Clint Eastwood as a director-
he makes Kyle sympathetic by actually showing signs of remorse after he killed the mother and kid (by the way there was no kid in the book and Kyle actually said he liked killing Iraqis and he had no problems with it)
he has really made the film as non-political as possible, however, many people from both sides, left and right, are pretty much drawing their own conclusions due to their own biases.
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To be fair, it is possible that real life Kyle felt a bit differently about it than the "tough guy" persona he was trying to get across in the book. It's hard to really say.

I certainly would agree, however, that Clint did a good job toning down the more "politically incorrect" aspects of the story. Maybe too good a job, all told. :lol:
 
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Henry David said:
I wonder what would happen if some arab movie maker made a film about a mythical arab sniper taking out westerners one at a time, and portraying them as heathens in the process.

Boy, that would go over like a lead balloon, eh?
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If there are Muslims who are receiving threats of violence, they should report them to the police.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Where do you think the culture you live in came from? The pizza, burger, ballet, the beers ..... it came with migrants
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What the hell's that got to do with anything?
 
Grand Mal said:
I think half of the controversy could have been avoided by leaving the word, 'American' out of the title. A lot of people on either side wouldn't get so excited about a movie called 'Sniper'.Michael Moore probably wouldn't have even commented, Muslims probably wouldn't have gotten their rage outed about the movie 'Sniper', and the only surprise about Seth Rogen is that anyone even cares about his opinion.
The word 'American' is one of those big, red buttons. Kinda like 'patriot'.
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The folks that are offended by, "American", in the title can all eat ****.
 
apdst said:
If there are Muslims who are receiving threats of violence, they should report them to the police.
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Those would be the police that the gun-toters insist always arrive too late? Would a Muslim-looking person carrying a gun for self-defence be jumped on like the old black guy, or just be shot on sight?
 
Manc Skipper said:
Those would be the police that the gun-toters insist always arrive too late? Would a Muslim-looking person carrying a gun for self-defence be jumped on like the old black guy, or just be shot on sight?
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Right, like pissin-n-moanin about a movie is going to solve anything. They can either call the cops, or STFU.
 
MrVicchio said:
I bet a fair number of people on this forum and some hollywood lefties would go nuts talking about how great it was.
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Yes, maybe it's title could be "Killing Christians For Allah", and we could rename this one "Killing Hadjis for Jesus".
 
Henry David said:
Yes, maybe it's title could be "Killing Christians For Allah", and we could rename this one "Killing Hadjis for Jesus".
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Except that I haven't, not once, heard one of our soldiers say anything whatsoever, about Jesus, when on the battlefield.
 
j-mac said:
So now, these groups, this one in particular is accused of not only aiding the Palestine against Israel, but, would not be surprising to see members within supporting the current terrorism against the west (that is my opinion)...They don't like anything accurate being shown that puts them in the disgusting light that they are....So, now they want to attack the 1st amendment here....
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The same sort of thing has happened before....hell, Italian American groups protested The Godfather back in the 70's.

Somebody is always butthurt...and life goes on.

I went a and watched the movie yesterday...good flick.
It wasnt anti-muslim.

The folks referred to as savages were certainly savages...of that there is no doubt
 
lizzie said:
Except that I haven't, not once, heard one of our soldiers say anything whatsoever, about Jesus, when on the battlefield.
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The movie makes it crystal clear why kyle fights...and it has zero to do with "killing jihad is for Jesus"
 
Gotta love the 1st amendment arguments coming out already
 
lizzie said:
Except that I haven't, not once, heard one of our soldiers say anything whatsoever, about Jesus, when on the battlefield.
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Glad to hear that Lizzie. Which battlefields over there were you at?

Google William Boykin, US Army, General type.
 
Only in the right-wing mind is pointing out threats against innocent people an "attack on the first amendment."
 
Henry David said:
Glad to hear that Lizzie. Which battlefields over there were you at?

Google William Boykin, US Army, General type.
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Which battlefields were you at? I was in Afghanistan, does that mean my opinion is much more qualified than Lizzie's? I read the book and watched the movie, and while Chris Kyle was religious, it in no way seemed to be the driving motivation behind his actions. His actions seemed to be driven by being a red blooded alpha male whose job it was to enact violence on our behalf, and that he did very well.

I think both wars were a tremendous mistake, but making **** up just to smear soldiers is kind of lame, isn't it? This isn't a Christian jihad.
 
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