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Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

Which proved you wrong. Sorry I took so long getting back but I had myself a nice warm slice of cinnamon pie.

Here is the recipe

Ingredients

Pastry

2 cups Gold Medal™ all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon salt
2/3 cup plus 2 tablespoons shortening
4 to 6 tablespoons cold water

Filling

1/3 to 1/2 cup sugar
1/4 cup Gold Medal™ all-purpose flour
1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon ground nutmeg
1/8 teaspoon salt
8 cups thinly sliced peeled tart apples (8 medium)
2 tablespoons butter or margarine

Nice.

I thought I'd add something. Consider it a gift in return for the recipe.

Estate tax in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The term "death tax"[edit]

The caption for section 303 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1954, enacted on August 16, 1954, refers to estate taxes, inheritance taxes, legacy taxes and succession taxes imposed because of the death of an individual as "death taxes." That wording remains in the caption of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended

I mean, I don't know exactly how old Luntz is, or even the Dr. Death Tax guy is, but I'm going to guess they weren't involved in writing, approving, and printing the IRS Code of 1954. Of course, again, there is that Egyptian thing. Love to see the hieroglyphics that spell out DEATH TAXES. That would be interested.

Do you have a recipe for humble pie? I'm thinking you might want to whip some up and enjoy the freedom humility brings to the soul.
 
A tax increase on the wealthy is going to hurt everybody, but there are so many who buy into this class warfare. This is what the Marxists started in Russia to rid the country of the Czars. Obama says the tax increase is helping the middle class. That is an oxymoron because in Marxist terms, the term for middle class was bourgeoisie, which stood for the capitalist class, those individuals, who had the money and the means of production. Obama says he wants only to tax the wealthy, but he is also attacking the middle class. Don't believe a word that Obama reads from his teleprompter.
 
NIMBY;1064218000]How much of that added debt was due to interest on the previous total accumulated debt?
Why did the GOP and TEA party walk away from Sen. Coburn's Back-in-Black plan, not to mention sabotaging the Grand Bargain?
I'm sure you agree we'd have a balanced budget by now without those 2 GOP/TEAs holding Boehner back.

I have no idea what the Back in Black program is nor do I care. You think Obama gives a damn about balancing the budget? Name for me one liberal that supports that? You and all liberals haven't seen a dollar that you didn't want to spend. It isn't about balancing the budget as it is about creating strong economic results.

How does that number compare to the highest level of unemployment, at 10.4%

I have posted the charts but obviously you ignored them Obama's numbers are more than Double any other President in history and when you add discouraged workers and the under employed to the unemployed you get Obama's true results which are why he lost the Congress


Which the GOP is now taking credit for.

Where is the GOP Taking credit for the Obama economy? You live in your own little dream world

A direct effect from your party's Great recession.

So tell me what exactly did the Democrat Controlled Congress do to prevent the recession and what did they do to get us out of that recession? You spout the DNC talking points quite well. How do you know this was a worse recession than 81-82? Oh, I know, the DNC told you so? I lived and worked during both and there is no comparison to the affects of both recessions and the recoveries. It was Reagan leadership and the Reagan stimulus that got us out of the 81-82 recession quite quickly. Obama doesn't have a clue and is an incredibly poor leader

Still the lame Gruber insult.

If the shoe fits, wear it

Until a GOP is President with the same or lower numbers .

You and your ilk are addicted to govt. spending and dependence
 
But....the fact is.....Con is wrong, GDP gain was not "mostly govt spending"..whether or not you believe the graph showed it or not (and it did, gdp gains happened in spite of flattening govt spending).

Move on, your "point" is lost.

I am discussing the use of a pointless graph, I'm not taking a stand. If that graph is what you are going by then you aren't making your point.
 
So now I'm a Socialist and a Liberal.

I have to get ready to coach a wrestling meet this evening--a most conservative community of coaches and parents.
Think Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio.

I'll catch up with you later after the SOTU and the GOP spinsters .

Won't be watching, couldn't care less what this incompetent says and know most will be lies anyway
 
As soon as all folks are required to do as you are advising me to do, I'm game.

And just know that I'm for means-testing of all public pensions, not a very popular position in my circles.
Again, until all one million retirees in Illinois don't get COLA for a few years, we don't save billions which are being cut from education right now.

Why are you against closing tax loopholes for yourself, the rich ?

Why? because I don't believe that any dollars should go to the Federal Govt. until they clean up their mess and stop lying to the American people. I am for all Americans keeping more of what they earn thus needing less govt. Why do you have a problem with that?
 
But....the fact is.....Con is wrong, GDP gain was not "mostly govt spending"..whether or not you believe the graph showed it or not (and it did, gdp gains happened in spite of flattening govt spending).

Move on, your "point" is lost.

Why don't you post the GDP numbers by component showing the growth. Cannot wait to see you prove me wrong. BEA.gov. has the data
 
Japan’s 2-Decade Experiment with Fiscal Austerity


...
Fiscal austerity did not begin immediately, but “Japan’s experiment with Keynesian-style public works programmes” ended in 1997. The public works programs did not promote a significant recovery, but in the six years from 1992 to 1997, real GDP at least managed to grow at a feeble 1.3% annual rate. But in the two years after austerity began — public works spending being cut back and the consumption tax raised, real GDP fell by 2.1% (1998) and 0.1% (1999). Despite fiscal austerity after 1997, the budgetary situation steadily deteriorated, government outlays rising as percentage of GDP while tax revenues are 5% lower as a percentage of GDP than in 1988 when the consumption tax was introduced.

...

LOL !!

10 separate stimulus packages equating to 100 Trillion dollars in Stimulus is austerity ?

Their 3 following stimulus packages plus massive monetary stimulus equates to " austerity " ?

The have a debt to GDP ratio of over 200 percent.

WHAT AUSTERITY ??
 
LOL !!

10 separate stimulus packages equating to 100 Trillion dollars in Stimulus is austerity ?

Their 3 following stimulus packages plus massive monetary stimulus equates to " austerity " ?

The have a debt to GDP ratio of over 200 percent.

WHAT AUSTERITY ??

LMAO, 100 Trillion????
 
Rich people won't invest less just because their long-term capital gains tax rate is the same as their income tax rate.

But I would like to see the extra funds be used for deficit reduction.

Any additional funds for existing or new programs should come through reductions in military/entitlement spending or cost-saving measures there and elsewhere.
 
LMAO, 100 Trillion????

Yes, is that # too large for you to comprehend ?

100 Trillion Yen through 10 different Stimulus packages in the 90s

You Libs calm that " austerity ".....Lol !!
 
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A tax increase on the wealthy is going to hurt everybody, but there are so many who buy into this class warfare. This is what the Marxists started in Russia to rid the country of the Czars. Obama says the tax increase is helping the middle class. That is an oxymoron because in Marxist terms, the term for middle class was bourgeoisie, which stood for the capitalist class, those individuals, who had the money and the means of production. Obama says he wants only to tax the wealthy, but he is also attacking the middle class. Don't believe a word that Obama reads from his teleprompter.

Yeah, he's been caught far, far too many times telling bold faced lies to the public. Can't trust a word that comes out of his mouth.
 
Yes, is that # too large for you to comprehend ?

100 Trillion Yen through 10 different Stimulus packages in the 90s

You Libs calm that " austerity ".....Lol !!
You said 100 Trillion Dollars.
 
You said 100 Trillion Dollars.


Yes, because we all know the Japanese use the dollar and not their own sovereign currency.....
 
lol @ blaming him for your screwup

No, Lol @ his calling Japans MASSIVE Keynesian Fiscal stimulus " austerity "....

That was funny....and a little pathetic. Kind of like you attempting to take up for him
 
A tax increase on the wealthy is going to hurt everybody, but there are so many who buy into this class warfare. This is what the Marxists started in Russia to rid the country of the Czars. Obama says the tax increase is helping the middle class. That is an oxymoron because in Marxist terms, the term for middle class was bourgeoisie, which stood for the capitalist class, those individuals, who had the money and the means of production. Obama says he wants only to tax the wealthy, but he is also attacking the middle class. Don't believe a word that Obama reads from his teleprompter.

Actually it is the middle class tax cuts that will help the middle class. The tax increases are to pay for them. I guess it is a foreign language to you but some actually think you need to pay for what you spend. We are sorry that we gave the wealthy too many breaks that now need to be re-evaluated. We led you on and for that we are sorry but some of them need to go back. Capital gains need to go back to what Ronald Reagan proposed...I know...the horror.
 
Actually it is the middle class tax cuts that will help the middle class. The tax increases are to pay for them. I guess it is a foreign language to you but some actually think you need to pay for what you spend. We are sorry that we gave the wealthy too many breaks that now need to be re-evaluated. We led you on and for that we are sorry but some of them need to go back. Capital gains need to go back to what Ronald Reagan proposed...I know...the horror.

Nonsense, you don't need to " pay for " tax cuts.

Besides, your President is a liar, possibly pathological.

Tax Increases would go into the pockets of Bueracrats, not the "Middle class ".

And if he gave a crap about the Middle class in the first place he wouldn't have signed that abortion of a Health Care law
 
Why? because I don't believe that any dollars should go to the Federal Govt. until they clean up their mess and stop lying to the American people. I am for all Americans keeping more of what they earn thus needing less govt. Why do you have a problem with that?

I think the problem is that you are too self-serving to be a creditable debater especially when you claim to be well-off. The Govt. has'nt prevented you from becoming wealthy has it? Have you even thought of the possibility that your fictional "less Govt." might have?
 
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I think the problem is that you are too self-serving to be a creditable debater especially when you claim to be well-off. The Govt. has'nt prevented you from becoming wealthy has it? Have you even thought of the possibility that your fictional "less Govt." might have?

Now that is a response that I expected when you cannot refute the information posted. I feel so sorry for people like you who bought an ideology that makes you look foolish. No, the govt. hasn't prevented me from becoming self sufficient but it has prevented small businesses from growing and hiring people. You buy what you are told and ignore results, that says it all.

I suggest you think more and stop buying what the left tells you. Think, how much more money is the middle class going to get from an Obama tax cut since many in that middle class don't pay any income taxes due to deductions, tax credits, and the Bush tax cuts. What you are seeing is nothing more than Obama appealing to his ignorant base. I expect more out of you than this.
 
I am discussing the use of a pointless graph, I'm not taking a stand. If that graph is what you are going by then you aren't making your point.
Both, that one....and the one I posted, show clearly the con got it wrong.
 
Why don't you post the GDP numbers by component showing the growth. Cannot wait to see you prove me wrong. BEA.gov. has the data
I did......and this is another thing you can't get correct today.
 
I did......and this is another thing you can't get correct today.

Really? Then point me to the post which breaks out GDP by component? I have seen no such post and if I missed it I will gladly apologize
 
It is not just semantics . Being required to file a report and being required to pay a tax are two very different things not just different words.
A "death tax" implies that the state taxes dying, it does not and never has.
The tax is paid by those receiving an unearned income in the form of an inheritance, just like winning the lottery is taxed as unearned income.
Calling inheritance tax a "death tax" is not only dishonest it is misleading and inaccurate.
If you don't like inheritance taxes, you can say so without lying.
For some reason you can't bring yourself to do that.

what event causes the tax to be imposed?

you are wrong so many times its funny

the heirs are not taxed. its the estate of the deceased. the tax is based on the value of the estate not the income of the heirs. it is not "unearned" income either but rather a gift.
 
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