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Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

I don't see a reason why the two should be treated differently under the taxation system.

The issue continues to be you support more money going to the Federal govt. and I don't. Until the Federal Govt. reigns in the spending I am against higher taxes on anyone and stop penalizing risk taking.
 
Do you have any idea where those jobs came from? You really don't understand investment and risk taking, do you? Do you even consider that people investing their own money are taking a risk with many of them losing that investment? You see fat cats, I see opportunities for growth and job creation.

:roll: And a lower capital gains tax is going to create jobs how exactly?

Is it any wonder that liberalism, socialism, Marxism are failures and complete economic disasters?

Given that what you are arguing for is precisely economic liberalism, I'm curious as to why you've included liberalism in this list.
 
The issue continues to be you support more money going to the Federal govt. and I don't. Until the Federal Govt. reigns in the spending I am against higher taxes on anyone and stop penalizing risk taking.

Viewing "government spending" as one entity when there are so many good and bad aspects as to what the federal government does seems like quite an oversimplification of the situation.
 
Democrats never met a tax they didn't like.
 
Of course, we all know that the govt. needs the money more than the people who earned it in the first place, right?

Been waiting for that wealth to "trickle down" for about 25+ years. Whens it gonna happen?
 
:roll: And a lower capital gains tax is going to create jobs how exactly?



Given that what you are arguing for is precisely economic liberalism, I'm curious as to why you've included liberalism in this list.

Incentive, my socialist friend, something you don't seem to understand. Investment comes from risk taking and the more incentive to invest(lower taxes) the more investment capital generated thus long term growth and job creation.
 
Viewing "government spending" as one entity when there are so many good and bad aspects as to what the federal government does seems like quite an oversimplification of the situation.

So tell me why we need 50 state and thousands of local governments requiring their tax structure along with a 3.9 trillion dollar Federal Govt? Seems you haven't learned the roles of the various governments we have or what the taxes you pay fund. Not surprised, a lot of people don't understand it either. Why don't you find out the role of the Federal govt. and get back to me. Hint, it has nothing to do with police, fire, teachers, local roads, highways, and bridges.
 
Been waiting for that wealth to "trickle down" for about 25+ years. Whens it gonna happen?

Not surprising, most socialists wouldn't understand trickle down when it bites the in the ass. Do you have a job? Does that job create additional opportunity for you or educational training? That my friend is part of trickle down, getting a job, learning from that job, and then going out on your own to make your own wealth. Try doing it without the job first
 
Not surprising, most socialists wouldn't understand trickle down when it bites the in the ass. Do you have a job? Does that job create additional opportunity for you or educational training? That my friend is part of trickle down, getting a job, learning from that job, and then going out on your own to make your own wealth. Try doing it without the job first

Getting a job and working is not part of trickle down economics....

But hey, let me know when its gonna trickle down..
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Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address | Fox News

Let's here it Obama supporters how does taxing the rich benefit the U.S. economy and how much money is going to be generated to fund the liberal spending appetite?

Class warfare is never going to solve the problems we face in this country and what ever happened to incentive to create more upper class individuals? Growing up I always strove to generate enough money to pay for a family that I hoped to have and fund charities that I want to support. My education process taught me the value of hard work and the desire to succeed. What happened to that philosophy in today's world? Why is it the Federal Government's role to tell the private sector where to spend its own money and on what?



As in Ecclesiastes, there is a time to raise taxes, and a time to cut taxes.....

This is the time to cut taxes.

The United States has been through an economic ordeal the likes of which most alive today have never experienced. The has been pain, hardship and deprivation.

The economy is on a slow, sometimes stalling, lugubrious uphill improvement, but there is little confidence in the economy generally, and especially in the US where recovery has been the slowest. The most successful governments right now are cutting taxes, although the oil price wars have given Canada's rookie finance minister pause, withholding a budget until May. Which is when we are likely to be headed to the polls.

This too is a political move, let's face it $320 billion over ten years is peanuts. It's not going to affect anything without cost cutting. Historically, governments who increase taxes and don't cut costs, or at least politicians salaries tend to get fired. Which is the point here.

Obama will never run for office ever again. This is a political shot across the bow, another "amnesty ruse" to wave the proverbial red cape at the Republican bull.

The centerpiece of the president's tax proposal is an increase in the capital gains and dividends rate on couples making more than $500,000 per year to 28 percent, the same level as under President Ronald Reagan. The top capital gains rate has already been raised from 15 percent to 23.8 percent during Obama's presidency.

The trap is set.

Any objection from the right and "Bush did it too!" will be "Reagan started it!"

Barrack Hussein is a genius at one thing....propaganda. He IS the best
 
Taking tax dollars from anyone today to the extent this govt. does it doesn't benefit anyone. We need about a 1.5 trillion dollar or less federal govt. and every dollar going to the Federal Govt. should go for Constitutional requirements which is for defense, judicial, health and human services, and that is about it.



No. You see socialists see it this way....Taxes good! More taxes better. More higher taxes best.

To them, there is no such thing as a free economy, it does not exist. To them, the nation is a family where when you need the latest in fashion you get dad to go to the bank.

That's it.
 
As in Ecclesiastes, there is a time to raise taxes, and a time to cut taxes.....

This is the time to cut taxes.

The United States has been through an economic ordeal the likes of which most alive today have never experienced. The has been pain, hardship and deprivation.

The economy is on a slow, sometimes stalling, lugubrious uphill improvement, but there is little confidence in the economy generally, and especially in the US where recovery has been the slowest. The most successful governments right now are cutting taxes, although the oil price wars have given Canada's rookie finance minister pause, withholding a budget until May. Which is when we are likely to be headed to the polls.

This too is a political move, let's face it $320 billion over ten years is peanuts. It's not going to affect anything without cost cutting. Historically, governments who increase taxes and don't cut costs, or at least politicians salaries tend to get fired. Which is the point here.

Obama will never run for office ever again. This is a political shot across the bow, another "amnesty ruse" to wave the proverbial red cape at the Republican bull.



The trap is set.

Any objection from the right and "Bush did it too!" will be "Reagan started it!"

Barrack Hussein is a genius at one thing....propaganda. He IS the best

How is that an example of "propaganda" from Obama?
 
Nothing is being added with the increased taxes on wealthier people...no extra services, etc...that money will go, presumably, to shore up loses incurred by lowering taxes on less wealthy people.

The president has just announced a new program. Community college. Programs cost money, he needs to get it from somewhere.
 
Getting a job and working is not part of trickle down economics....

But hey, let me know when its gonna trickle down..
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Therein lies the problem you are waiting for trickle down instead of taking the opportunities you have and making the best out of them including the education you are receiving on the job to better yourself long term. I was looking for a job when I found the one I had, The experience I gained was invaluable and made me extremely marketable.

Yes, having a job is part of trickle down but people like you waiting for something to happen are going to wake up one day and wonder what happened. you love posting charts showing growth in upper income. Who are those people, where did Bill Gates start? How about Steve Jobs? How about Mark Zuckerberg? A faceless graph tells me nothing including who those people are making those wages and what they did to earn them. You on the other hand seem to be waiting and waiting for something good to happen to you.

Your job was created by someone who hired you to work for them, that is trickle down. What you do with that education and experience is up to you and no one else.
 
Therein lies the problem you are waiting for trickle down instead of taking the opportunities you have and making the best out of them including the education you are receiving on the job to better yourself long term. I was looking for a job when I found the one I had, The experience I gained was invaluable and made me extremely marketable.

Yes, having a job is part of trickle down but people like you waiting for something to happen are going to wake up one day and wonder what happened. you love posting charts showing growth in upper income. Who are those people, where did Bill Gates start? How about Steve Jobs? How about Mark Zuckerberg? A faceless graph tells me nothing including who those people are making those wages and what they did to earn them. You on the other hand seem to be waiting and waiting for something good to happen to you.

Your job was created by someone who hired you to work for them, that is trickle down. What you do with that education and experience is up to you and no one else.

I thought if the rich got more and more money they would spend it more... Turns out they dont. Just reinvest and save it.
 
I thought if the rich got more and more money they would spend it more... Turns out they dont. Just reinvest and save it.

yep they reinvest it either back into their business or other businesses which in turn hire more people.
if you want to be rich.
save more invest more and only buy what you need.

maybe if more people spent time improving themselves instead of complaining what other people have you would be further along.
 
I thought if the rich got more and more money they would spend it more... Turns out they dont. Just reinvest and save it.

They do, they invest it, they hire people, they grow their businesses, and yes, the buy things. You don't think investment is trickle down? Where do you think your job came from?
 
How is that an example of "propaganda" from Obama?

This too is a political move, let's face it $320 billion over ten years is peanuts. It's not going to affect anything without cost cutting. Historically, governments who increase taxes and don't cut costs, or at least politicians salaries tend to get fired. Which is the point here.

I do hope there will soon be a day when you actually read and understand posts.
 
yep they reinvest it either back into their business or other businesses which in turn hire more people.
if you want to be rich.
save more invest more and only buy what you need.

maybe if more people spent time improving themselves instead of complaining what other people have you would be further along.

Really? They do!? They "hire more people"? Just because a company is making more money does not mean they hire more people. If that was true during the "recession" the wealth of the top grew expentionally. By your logic, they should of reinvested that and created more jobs
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... The trickle down effect does not work due to the fact it makes the rich richer and the poor poorer, it only increases the gap between the two classes.

Tax cuts do not guarantee growth either
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They do, they invest it, they hire people, they grow their businesses, and yes, the buy things. You don't think investment is trickle down? Where do you think your job came from?

They do? Man I must of missed that massive amount of jobs that were created in the last couple years. I mean the top economic tiers wealth has been growing at an incredibly fast rate, we should be drowning in all these jobs they create by reinvesting their wealth!
 
Really? They do!? They "hire more people"? Just because a company is making more money does not mean they hire more people. If that was true during the "recession" the wealth of the top grew expentionally. By your logic, they should of reinvested that and created more jobs
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... The trickle down effect does not work due to the fact it makes the rich richer and the poor poorer, it only increases the gap between the two classes.

Tax cuts do not guarantee growth either
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Keep posting those faceless charts that mean absolutely nothing for people make up those charts and it is people who spend money and make the decisions on what to spend and where depending on the incentive to do so. Socialists don't understand individual exceptionalism and are frustrated with anyone who has more than they do and think that isn't fair. You didn't answer my question as to where Bill Gates started from, Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg. Why not?
 
They do? Man I must of missed that massive amount of jobs that were created in the last couple years. I mean the top economic tiers wealth has been growing at an incredibly fast rate, we should be drowning in all these jobs they create by reinvesting their wealth!

No, you just bought the Obama rhetoric and believe govt. is the answer. Govt. hasn't provided the incentive for businesses to grow and create jobs but then again I have seen you don't understand incentive, even your own. "Your" President and your economic model are disasters and the problems seems to be you can never accept responsibility for your own failures.
 
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