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Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

Just so I am clear here, are you saying that the GOP is the enemy of the Democrats?

In the political sense, sure. The parties have been in direct opposition for about 20 years.
 
What, did the Bush era not happen? Wait, I forgot, you were impaired by temporary blindness and deafness during those 8 years...

Frankly everyone gets all worked up about government overreach until it's their guy in there. Few, if any, Republicans cared when Reagan and Bush expanded the size and scope of executive powers and governmnt in general. But put a Democrat in office and suddenly he's Hitler reincarnated. :roll:

Really? Tell me what laws Bush changed and how Reagan and Bush expanded executive power by themselves? Neither Bush nor Reagan ever had debt exceeding 100% of GDP nor did they go around Congress, they worked with Congress. You have selective outrage
 
LOL.....answer your spin when you were proven wrong for the 10,000th time? You truly are a typical Republican Con......you keep spouting off the same lies and disproved propoganda, hoping that maybe it will stick the 2743rd time.

Ever since Obama was elected, conservatives have been in full CYA mode, basically pretending that all the bad stuff we remember about the Bush presidency was just lies fed to us by the "liberal media." It's a full-on historical whitewashing happening before our very eyes.
 
Because he was in Obama's inner circle and involved in ACA. He is conveying what the liberal elites actually believe and you are making him look like a genius

Gruber was not "in Obama's inner circle," which you guys make sound like he was a member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, carrying out Magneto's bidding. He was a one-year contractual employee of the Department of Health and Human Services. His involvement largely consisted of running the program through various economic models.

The ACA-Gruber Connection
 
Why? because he represents liberalism and was a leader in the Obama Administration. Where do you think he got the thought from? Why are you so obsessed with distorting the Bush record and believing 2008 was its entirety? Why are you ignoring the Obama results and still blaming Bush for the yearly deficits and massive unemployment/under employment?

How on earth does Gruber, who was never elected to any position, "represent liberalism"? That's an utterly asinine statement.

He also was not "a leader in the Obama administration." Ever since this guy surfaced, conservatives have done nothing but lie about this guy and his actual role in the ACA.
 
Yeah, I do but you don't seem to understand the difference between a state program and a Federal Program. Please figure it out and get back to me

Because what we need in this country is 50 different bureaucracies. That's so much better than one.

You love big government, as long as it's done by your guy.
 
How on earth does Gruber, who was never elected to any position, "represent liberalism"? That's an utterly asinine statement.

He also was not "a leader in the Obama administration." Ever since this guy surfaced, conservatives have done nothing but lie about this guy and his actual role in the ACA.

I wonder if he represented liberalism when he worked on Romneycare?
 
Ever since Obama was elected, conservatives have been in full CYA mode, basically pretending that all the bad stuff we remember about the Bush presidency was just lies fed to us by the "liberal media." It's a full-on historical whitewashing happening before our very eyes.

Yep......unfortunately for them, the legacy of GWB speaks for itself......as a crazy woman once said....you can't put lipstick on a pig.
 
Progs today do like saving our National Parks from the GOP, one of nature's greatest enemies.



And I've yet to see a GOP Con as yourself defend or say good things about TR.
Such as agreeing with the 16th and 17th amendments .


I didn't live during the Teddy Roosevelt days, did you? I prefer talking about something I actually understand and not influenced by others. You seem to have a very serious problem understanding reality and what is going on today.
 
Yep......unfortunately for them, the legacy of GWB speaks for itself......as a crazy woman once said....you can't put lipstick on a pig.

Interesting how it speaks differently to those who actually understand his record not the made up one you want to claim. On every thread you divert to Bush showing how little you understand of basic civics and then of course economics is a foreign subject for you. The legacy of Obama will live on forever as well and the next GOP President is going to have a severe mess to clean up.
 
Gruber was not "in Obama's inner circle," which you guys make sound like he was a member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, carrying out Magneto's bidding. He was a one-year contractual employee of the Department of Health and Human Services. His involvement largely consisted of running the program through various economic models.

The ACA-Gruber Connection

LOL, yep, you are right, he didn't even know Obama and had nothing to do with ACA. Thanks for showing just how partisan you are and that Gruber's statement was indeed accurate. Did he interview you before making that statement?
 
LOL, yep, you are right, he didn't even know Obama and had nothing to do with ACA. Thanks for showing just how partisan you are and that Gruber's statement was indeed accurate. Did he interview you before making that statement?

Which is, of course, not what I said in the slightest. Nor is that what the link I posted says. So basically, you decided to make up an argument and attack that. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
 
I wonder if he represented liberalism when he worked on Romneycare?

States rights are something that is foreign to you and it violated all liberal principles which require massive central govt. to implement liberal misery equally to everyone else. If your state wants Romneycare, sell it to the people of your state
 
States rights are something that is foreign to you and it violated all liberal principles which require massive central govt. to implement liberal misery equally to everyone else. If your state wants Romneycare, sell it to the people of your state

You have some very bizarre ideas of what constitute liberal principles. But we'd all like to thank you for your latest contribution to What Liberals Really Think.
 
Because what we need in this country is 50 different bureaucracies. That's so much better than one.

You love big government, as long as it's done by your guy.


No, we need federal bureaucrats solving social problems in your local community. Yes, you obviously are a history major understanding what our Founders created. My guy is the Governor of TX, my local Representative, and the freedom and opportunity I have here in this state along with a part time legislature. Wonder why it is that TX is among the leaders in population growth, job creation??
 
You have some very bizarre ideas of what constitute liberal principles. But we'd all like to thank you for your latest contribution to What Liberals Really Think.

Yep, I pay attention to the Pelosi, Reid, and Obama wing of the liberal party. You obviously are making Gruber look great.
 
How on earth does Gruber, who was never elected to any position, "represent liberalism"? That's an utterly asinine statement.

He also was not "a leader in the Obama administration." Ever since this guy surfaced, conservatives have done nothing but lie about this guy and his actual role in the ACA.

The same way all Obama and liberal advisors affect policies. So what you are telling me is he had no input on ACA and didn't help write it? Pelosi cannot even get it right because even her website mentions Gruber

Earlier, on Nov. 13, Pelosi said of Gruber at a weekly briefing to reporters, “I don’t know who he is,” a comment her staff later said meant that she didn’t know Gruber personally. We found seven instances of Gruber being cited on Pelosi’s leadership website, and the Washington Post dug up November 2009 comments by Pelosi, in which she specifically named Gruber in citing his work.

And then there is this
Gruber was hired by the Department of Health and Human Services for a one-year contract to provide “technical assistance in evaluating options for national healthcare reform,” as a Feb. 25, 2009, federal job posting indicates. The posting said he was uniquely qualified for the position not only because of his expertise in health economics but his “proprietary statistically sophisticated micro-simulation model” that could determine the impact of changes in health care policy.

Gruber’s consultancy work wasn’t made public until it was reported in early January 2010. Fox News then reported that Gruber was paid almost $400,000 for the contract, an amount that was recently confirmed by the Washington Post’s Kessler.
 
No, we need federal bureaucrats solving social problems in your local community. Yes, you obviously are a history major understanding what our Founders created. My guy is the Governor of TX, my local Representative, and the freedom and opportunity I have here in this state along with a part time legislature. Wonder why it is that TX is among the leaders in population growth, job creation??

As the price of oil continues to decline, the economy in Texas will suffer. Much to my delight.
 
States rights are something that is foreign to you and it violated all liberal principles which require massive central govt. to implement liberal misery equally to everyone else. If your state wants Romneycare, sell it to the people of your state

So Romneycare doesn't require a big bureaucracy? Tell me more about how it doesn't, and then tell the people of Massachussetts. They love a good laugh.
 
The same way all Obama and liberal advisors affect policies. So what you are telling me is he had no input on ACA and didn't help write it? Pelosi cannot even get it right because even her website mentions Gruber



And then there is this

Gruber! Bartender, more shots!
 
It's funny how Con sidetracked his own thread because he had to get Gruber into it somehow.
 
The same way all Obama and liberal advisors affect policies. So what you are telling me is he had no input on ACA and didn't help write it? Pelosi cannot even get it right because even her website mentions Gruber

And then there is this

Your second citation confirms what I said earlier, dude.

Of course, you still didn't answer the question of how Gruber "represents liberalism," you just barfed up some nonsense about Obama. Obama doesn't represent liberalism either.
 
As the price of oil continues to decline, the economy in Texas will suffer. Much to my delight.

Just like a liberal hoping for misery to those you disagree with. TX economy isn't dependent on oil and has become very diverse, something you do not understand but I do understand people like you who are part of the problem never part of the solution
 
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