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Hatuey said:
The answers are in post #10. Do you see why it has been pointed out that you've ignored the evidence?
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I asked for the total number of confirmed muslims that are condemning this. So far, you have given me nothing. If you do not post the total number in your next reply, we can consider this debate over, as you have thrown up the white flag.
 
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11Bravo said:
I asked for the total number of confirmed muslims that are condemning this.
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Your degeneration into the absurd is beyond my capabilities. Is there a confirmed number of Christians which support or oppose anything?
 
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Hatuey said:
Still lying about my statements? Good, you're not deviating from your only strategy in this thread. You stated that these discussions aren't happening, I showed a myriad of examples showing they were. Trying to twist your position to claim I'm making "a strawman" is pretty silly. You claimed that these discussions weren't happening as they should, I showed otherwise. The Muslim world discusses these issues daily through conferences, fatwas, discussion panels journalism, etc. That you aren't aware of it because well... you're simply ignorant is your problem. These discussions are happening through and through the Muslim world. They're happening in various languages: Arabic, English, French, Pashtu, Urdu etc. They're happening in various countries: Pakistan, Singapore, Bangladesh, etc. They're happening across all sections of the Muslim world: From the academic elite, to the organization, to the individual. Continuing to double down that it's not happening because you don't see it is your problem. You've demonstrated over and over again that you're more comfortable lying about what others have posted (See: 45 tweets) and dismissing all evidence which shows you to be wrong by refuting it with the asinine contention that people are blaming the West when they address your lies.
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I feel bad that YOUR evidence and YOUR links made you look SO stupid. Perhaps you didnt bother to actually READ the quotes and hashtag 'outrage' offered on 'alternet'. Perhaps you didnt realize what a hack web site 'alternet' was. Perhaps you just punched in a Google search and posted the first 4 links that popped up. That would certainly explain why you offered as 'proof' of Muslim 'outrage' 45 examples of platitudes, one paragraph statements, and a whole bunch of personal tweets.
YOUR link. YOUR citation. Own it.
#gosh...weareoutraged#honest!
 
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Hatuey said:
Your degeneration into the absurd is beyond my capabilities. Is there a confirmed number of Christians which support or oppose anything?
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Thank you for once again refusing to answer my questions, therefore, losing yourself an argument. Best of luck on your future endeavors.
 
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VanceMack said:
I feel bad that YOUR evidence and YOUR links made you look SO stupid.
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Still trying, huh? You lied about my posts, then you clung on to the "45 tweets" lie as if the link by itself didn't disprove your initial claims that these conversations aren't taking place. Moving on to claim that "alternet" is wrong because you didn't even bother to read the links posted (and there are quite a few of them) is once again your problem. I've done my job degenerating you into your usual rants when you've lost a debate. Do you have anything else to add?
 
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11Bravo said:
Thank you for once again refusing to answer my questions, therefore, losing yourself an argument. Best of luck on your future endeavors.
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Your dishonesty really is showing. There is no such thing as a "confirmed" amount of people condemning anything. That you continue to use that as the "I've won!" argument is pretty silly.
 
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Hatuey said:
Your dishonesty really is showing. There is no such thing as a "confirmed" amount of people condemning anything. That you continue to use that as the "I've won!" argument is pretty silly.
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Enjoy trying to defend the 999,910,000 Million muslims that don't condemn any terrorism.
 
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11Bravo said:
Enjoy trying to defend the 999,910,000 Million muslims that don't condemn any terrorism.
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You know, there is nothing more pathetic than making a ridiculous argument and then ignoring you even made it. Can you tell us how one goes about getting a "confirmed number" of people within a religion to condemn something? How would you poll 999,910,000 million Muslims? The fact that you dropped it is all one needs to show how absurd that question was to begin with. :lol:
 
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Hatuey said:
Still trying, huh? You lied about my posts, then you clung on to the "45 tweets" lie as if the link by itself didn't disprove your initial claims that these conversations aren't taking place. Moving on to claim that "alternet" is wrong because you didn't even bother to read the links posted (and there are quite a few of them) is once again your problem. I've done my job degenerating you into your usual rants when you've lost a debate. Do you have anything else to add?
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I lied about nothing. I posted the content of your ridiculous citation. Shame you didnt bother to read it before you posted it.
 
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VanceMack said:
I lied about nothing.
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See: "45 tweets". Now you're lying about having lied. Are you even serious?
 
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Hatuey said:
See: "45 tweets". Now you're lying about having lied. Are you even serious?
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(Yawn)

You are boring the **** out of me.

THESE 'examples are less meaningful than tweets. Geeeezus...you really DIDNT read your OWN cited article, did you?

:lamo

POSTED IN THEIR ENTIRETY...

18. Saudi Arabia:The country expressed “deep sorry” in response to “this cowardly terrorist attack which is incompatible with Islam religion.”

19. Qatar’s Foreign Ministry:“these actions that targets civilians contravene all values and principles, moral and humanitarian.”

20. United Arab Emirates Foreign Ministry: “such appalling criminal acts require cooperation and solidarity at all levels to eradicate this menace.”
 
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VanceMack said:
I lied about nothing. I posted the content of your ridiculous citation. Shame you didnt bother to read it before you posted it.
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Hatuey calls everyone a liar. It's like his only move. Kinda like Eric Holder and the race card. When all else fails, call someone a "liar". I used to do that. In 1st grade.
 
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VanceMack said:
(Yawn)

You are boring the **** out of me.
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Then quit posting, and lying in the process. You definitely claimed I posted "45 tweets" as proof of anything, I did no such thing, I posted evidence that the Muslim world was having these discussions, my link showed that these discussions weren't just happening at the organizational and religious level, they were also happening at the individual level. The individuals in question were both prominent and non-prominent individuals. You doubled down on your lie by repeating it 2-3 times after that without actually even bothering to "READ" the other hundreds of so links which come from the links I provided throughout the thread. Once again, that's your problem.
 
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Hatuey said:
Then quit posting, and lying in the process. You definitely claimed I posted "45 tweets" as proof of anything, I did no such thing, I posted evidence that the Muslim world was having these discussions, my link showed that these discussions weren't just happening at the organizational and religious level, they were also happening at the individual level. The individuals in question were both prominent and non-prominent individuals. You doubled down on your lie by repeating it 2-3 times after that without actually even bothering to "READ" the other hundreds of so links which come from the links I provided throughout the thread. Once again, that's your problem.
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You posted a link to "45 examples of Muslim Outrage!!!"

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22. Morroco’s King Mohammed: [He], ‘‘strongly condemned the odious, cowardly terrorist attack.”

23. Indonesia’s Foreign Ministry: [Indonesia] “condemns the attack” and “sends condolences to the government and people of France.

:lamo

YOUR citation. You are just embarrassing yourself, man. Seriously.
 
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VanceMack said:
You posted a link to "45 examples of Muslim Outrage!!!"
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Yep, and you misrepresented it as being "45 tweets", when it fact the majority are statements by prominent Muslim organizations on this issue. The statements are in turn validated by the many fatwas, conferences, demonstrations against terrorism going on in the Muslim world as we speak and before that. Face it VanceMack, you lied about my posts and now can't even admit it. That's poor form.
 
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Hatuey said:
Yep, and you misrepresented it as being "45 tweets", when it fact the majority are statements by prominent Muslim organizations on this issue. The statements are in turn validated by the many fatwas, conferences, demonstrations against terrorism going on in the Muslim world as we speak and before that. Face it VanceMack, you lied about my posts and now can't even admit it. That's poor form.
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Offered as MORE 'proof'...

IN THEIR ENTIRETY....

24. Egypt’s Foreign Minister: “Egypt stands by France in confronting terrorism, an international phenomenon that targets the world’s security and stability and which requires coordinated international efforts to eradicate.”

25. Turkey’s Foreign Minister: “We, as Turkey, condemn with hatred any kind of terror… We are against any form of terror regardless of where it comes from and what its motives are.”

:lamo
 
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VanceMack said:
Offered as MORE 'proof'...
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You know, it doesn't look well when you completely dismiss the fact that you got caught misrepresenting my posts and continue to post parts of my link as proof that you weren't lying. You lied about "45 tweets". You admitted you stopped reading links because I dared to show that these discussions were taking place on many levels (social networking being one of them) even though you denied that these conversations were taking place. That is pretty indicative of how few arguments you have. First you claim the discussions aren't happening, then when I show they are - you know, in the Muslim world, where they matter - you complain that it's not enough and the average living in a shack type of Muslim needs to play a larger role by defunding these organizations and denying them a safe haven. I'm surprised you haven't degenerated into asking for a "confirmed number" of Muslims condemning terrorism. That would basically complete the holy trinity of fallacious arguments in this thread.
 
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PoS said:
The only reason why 9/11 happened in the first place is because we stick our noses in places where it doesnt belong. And the fact that you demonize an entire religion to feed your racist hate virtually guarantees that another terror attack will happen again.
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Where have I demonized the entire religion of Islam?! I simply paraphrased what is in the Koran.
I admit you are partially right - I am a hater. I hate knuckleheads who have to hide their identities behind masks while they
chop the heads off of children, or crucify their parents in the name of Islam. I hate men who use box cutters to hijack planes, then fly them into buildings. I also hate the devils who walk into magazine offices and indiscriminantly kill journalists with guns. So...yes, I am a hater!
 
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Hatuey said:
You know, it doesn't look well when you completely dismiss the fact that you got caught misrepresenting my posts and continue to post parts of my link as proof that you weren't lying. You lied about "45 tweets". You admitted you stopped reading links because I dared to show that these discussions were taking place on many levels (social networking being one of them) even though you denied that these conversations were taking place. That is pretty indicative of how few arguments you have. First you claim the discussions aren't happening, then when I show they are - you know, in the Muslim world, where they matter - you complain that it's not enough and the average living in a shack type of Muslim needs to play a larger role by defunding these organizations and denying them a safe haven. I'm surprised you haven't degenerated into asking for a "confirmed number" of Muslims condemning terrorism. That would basically complete the holy trinity of fallacious arguments in this thread.
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I stopped reading after your first link because it was such a horrible embarrassment and felt bad for you. Dood...if you think THIS
http://www.alternet.org/media/45-examples-muslim-outrage-about-charlie-hebdo-attack-fox-news-missed

proves Muslim 'outrage'...well then lets just say there is probably a REASON why there were 8500 attacks and in 2 years a 69% increase in the number of attacks (and an 89% increase in fatalities) from Fundamentalist Muslims, with no end in sight.
 
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VanceMack said:
I stopped reading after your first link because it was such a horrible embarrassment and felt bad for you.
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That you continue to perpetuate this lie is really indicative of your purpose on this thread. You've at no point even considered addressing anything else because you were too caught up in "45 tweets" to do anything else. That is pretty indicative of just how much strength your arguments had. At best, you would have been caught being unable to read the links. At worst, you would have been caught got caught lying. You chose "worst", now it's time to admit that you lied about the evidence presented, and move on. Here, let me ask you:

Did you or did you not falsely claim I had posted 45 tweets as an example of Muslim "outrage" on this issue?
 
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apdst said:
You dug that up after you misspelled moron.
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:lamo

He photoshopped it himself, right? No way a con could be that dumb.
 
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Hatuey said:
That you continue to perpetuate this lie is really indicative of your purpose on this thread. You've at no point even considered addressing anything else because you were too caught up in "45 tweets" to do anything else is pretty indicative of just how much strength your arguments had. At best, you would have been caught being unable to read the links. At worst, you would have been caught got caught lying. You chose "worst", now it's time to admit that you lied about the evidence presented, and move on. Here, let me ask you:

Did you or did you not falsely claim I had posted 45 tweets as an example of Muslim "outrage" on this issue?
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Well lets see...

And Muslim individuals took to social media to denounce the violence:

28. Iyad El-Baghdadi

As a Muslim, killing innocent people in the name of Islam is much, much more offensive to me than any cartoon can ever be. #CharlieHebdo

— Iyad El-Baghdadi (@iyad_elbaghdadi) January 7, 2015

29. Mustafa Akyol

As a Muslim, I condemn the cruel attack on #CharlieHebdo & offer condolences to the French people.
The "Islam" of the murderers is not mine.

30. Sabbiyah Pervez @sabbiyah
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Sheer madness, mind boggling that people will kill over a cartoon. So far from any faith they claim to belong to. #NotInMyName


Yes...YOUR citation...YOUR link. Your 'evidence' showing Muslim 'outrage'.

Perhaps YOU should read what YOU post
 
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VanceMack said:
Well lets see...
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Answer the question: Did you or did you not claim I had posted '45 tweets' as proof of 'Muslim outrage' in the face of terrorism?

Possible answers:

- Yes, I did.
- No, I didn't.

The fact that you don't even know who those people are is pretty funny:

Iyad El-Baghdadi - popular Muslim activist
Mustafa Akyol - Popular Muslim journalist in Turkey
Sabbiyah Pervez - Muslim broadcast anchor in the UK

It's pretty indicative that you REALLY have no interest in even addressing just how these links showed you wrong. Specially when you claim that the public personalities who aren't addressing the issue, are exactly the ones who are posted addressing the issue.
 
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apdst said:
The Crusades were a response to Muslim invasions of Europe. All these rest only covers a few hundred years, collectively and they occurred several centuries ago. Muslim violence has occurred in the past few days. The Muslims have killed over 2,000 people recently. You have to go back 300 years to find a Christian equivelant.
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"The Muslims" didn't kill anybody. The terrorists did. Specific ones at that.
 
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