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George Zimmerman arrested on suspected domestic violence[W:124]

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Well they also overtried Zimmerman for Murder II... which even someone like me wouldn't have convicted GZ on.

Maybe the prosecution should have called you?
 
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But it often precedes bad things. Victims are OFTEN followed in the dark until they reach just the right place. That's the rub.

How was martin supposed to know Zimmerman WASN'T about to grab him and turn him into the Geek in Zimmerman's basement?

Well he obviously wasn't scared enough to run home and walk the door, nor was he scared enough to hang up on Rachel, and call 911. Obviously wasn't too scared to come back and confront Zimmerman four minutes after Zimmermans 911 call and it was Zimmerman losing sight of him. Besides tray von Martin is just a couple years too young to get the reference to that movie...
 
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What in the wide wide world of sports are you talking about?.....I think you're losing it..

We're getting to the gist of only one walks away. An attempted rapist who gets his ass handed to him can shoot his victim and walk if he's the only one there (barring torn panties or other evidence he can't attribute to the struggle) because that's the way the law works.
 
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We're getting to the gist of only one walks away. An attempted rapist who gets his ass handed to him can shoot his victim and walk if he's the only one there (barring torn panties or other evidence he can't attribute to the struggle) because that's the way the law works.
It might be possible...depending on available evidence.

What, other than evidence, should we base guilt or innocence off of?...
 
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Are you saying you don't think Murder II was an excessive charge?

I think that any prosecution goes for as high, and as many charges as they can throw at the wall in the hopes of getting something to stick, even if it is a lesser charge....In this case, the jury saw it as self defense, and he was acquitted...At some point you libs are going to have to accept the Justice system even when you don't like the outcomes...We see this now, with the failure to indict police. There is no guarantee that these cops would be found guilty of anything, and then we'd get to hear, just like in this case how wrong the Justice system was....You guys really make me think that the only thing that would make you happy are lynch mobs.
 
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Well he obviously wasn't scared enough to run home and walk the door, nor was he scared enough to hang up on Rachel, and call 911. Obviously wasn't too scared to come back and confront Zimmerman four minutes after Zimmermans 911 call and it was Zimmerman losing sight of him. Besides tray von Martin is just a couple years too young to get the reference to that movie...

You do not know he came back. There is no evidence that he did anything more than stop. No evidence he was aware Zimmerman had gotten out of his car.

All conjecture.
 
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I think that any prosecution goes for as high, and as many charges as they can throw at the wall in the hopes of getting something to stick, even if it is a lesser charge....In this case, the jury saw it as self defense, and he was acquitted...At some point you libs are going to have to accept the Justice system even when you don't like the outcomes...We see this now, with the failure to indict police. There is no guarantee that these cops would be found guilty of anything, and then we'd get to hear, just like in this case how wrong the Justice system was....You guys really make me think that the only thing that would make you happy are lynch mobs.

...what the **** did I write - please quote me - that would make you think any of that? I want some direct ****ing quotes. Good luck, because you're clearly going to fail. Maybe next time, learn to argue points like an adult.
 
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...what the **** did I write - please quote me - that would make you think any of that? I want some direct ****ing quotes. Good luck, because you're clearly going to fail. Maybe next time, learn to argue points like an adult.

:lol: don't melt down dude....Just have a discussion....Tell me why I am wrong to think that you prefer lynch mob justice?
 
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You do not know he came back. There is no evidence that he did anything more than stop. No evidence he was aware Zimmerman had gotten out of his car.

All conjecture.

Well you obviously seem to know everything that happened there, can you describe to me minute by minute those for missing minutes? What transpired in the four minutes between the end of the 91 one call in the beginning of the confrontation with Zimmerman?
 
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:lol: don't melt down dude....Just have a discussion....Tell me why I am wrong to think that you prefer lynch mob justice?

j-mac, I don't know how they do things in that backwards ass state called S. Carolina, but in the real Carolina, when we make a claim we back it up.

You said I (and liberals in general) don't respect the justice system and want lynch mobs. Please back your statement up, or continue looking foolish per usual.
 
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j-mac, I don't know how they do things in that backwards ass state called S. Carolina, but in the real Carolina, when we make a claim we back it up.

You said I (and liberals in general) don't respect the justice system and want lynch mobs. Please back your statement up, or continue looking foolish per usual.

I am not a native of SC, so you insulting baiting goes right off my back....As for liberals wanting lynch mobs, all you need to do is look up the recent threads about police failing to be indicted, and the postings within from liberals...Come on, get real. :roll:
 
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I am not a native of SC, so you insulting baiting goes right off my back....As for liberals wanting lynch mobs, all you need to do is look up the recent threads about police failing to be indicted, and the postings within from liberals...Come on, get real. :roll:

You said it in reference to me. You said:

"At some point you libs are going to have to accept the Justice system even when you don't like the outcomes.... You guys really make me think that the only thing that would make you happy are lynch mobs."

So your entire argument is that if I think there is an injustice in the system that I want lynch mobs? And you think that's an intelligent comment?

You're embarrassing yourself, j-mac.
 
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You said it in reference to me. You said:

"At some point you libs are going to have to accept the Justice system even when you don't like the outcomes.... You guys really make me think that the only thing that would make you happy are lynch mobs."

So your entire argument is that if I think there is an injustice in the system that I want lynch mobs? And you think that's an intelligent comment?

You're embarrassing yourself, j-mac.

You said that you thought that Murder II was too high a hurdle, and that you probably wouldn't have convicted either based on that...then I said they should have called you for advice, an implication that you think you know more than the prosecutors in charge of the case. Then you got all pissy, and asked a confusing question of whether I thought Murder II was too high....I answered that by saying that prosecutors often charge the highest they can to include lesser charges...That wasn't good enough for you....So just what the hell do you want?
 
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You said that you thought that Murder II was too high a hurdle, and that you probably wouldn't have convicted either based on that...then I said they should have called you for advice, an implication that you think you know more than the prosecutors in charge of the case. Then you got all pissy, and asked a confusing question of whether I thought Murder II was too high....I answered that by saying that prosecutors often charge the highest they can to include lesser charges...That wasn't good enough for you....So just what the hell do you want?

So youe reasoning to say that I think the prosecutors should have consulted me and that I want lynch mobs is because I think they over-charged Zimmerman? That's genius, j-mac. I guess for all of your terrible opinions on politics, all of our congressmen and women should be calling you. Or is it that we're on a debate board and we're supposed to be sharing our opinions, eh genius?

And the reason I think it's important that they overcharged Zimmerman is because they present evidence and argue points differently based on the charge. They spent a lot of time focusing on GZ's intent and trying to prove that he was racist and intentionally killed Trayvon. Whereas, if they went for a more reasonable conviction, the argument would have been more focused on his recklessness.

Now, since we're on a debate board, you can respond in kind with a counter-point, or you can just continue to hack it up. Your call, friend.
 
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Another zimmy thread that goes back to rehashing the Trayvon Martin case. I too have my opinion on that one, but it's not the subject of this thread except in terms of Z's propensity toward violence.
 
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Another zimmy thread that goes back to rehashing the Trayvon Martin case. I too have my opinion on that one, but it's not the subject of this thread except in terms of Z's propensity toward violence.

I think that is the point. His past behavior (even predating TM) set up his current issues.

I do not think we have seen the last of him.:doh
 
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I think that is the point. His past behavior (even predating TM) set up his current issues.

I do not think we have seen the last of him.:doh

Well, regardless of the how's and why's, we know he killed Trayvon Martin.

And I agree there are some things about that case that seem to have bearing.

But that he killed him - justified or not - certainly is the key piece of info.

I've read that once someone has killed someone, future murders are much easier. Don't know if that's true.

But his actions since that case are certainly worth analyzing. He didn't exactly fade into the woodwork, which is where most of us would have gone.
 
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Well, regardless of the how's and why's, we know he killed Trayvon Martin.

And I agree there are some things about that case that seem to have bearing.

But that he killed him - justified or not - certainly is the key piece of info.

I've read that once someone has killed someone, future murders are much easier. Don't know if that's true.

But his actions since that case are certainly worth analyzing. He didn't exactly fade into the woodwork, which is where most of us would have gone.

I think one thing that adds to his behavior is the fact that many excused his behavior too much. I think it can make him feel righteous in his actions. While his actions may have been legal....but I do not believe he ever REALLY accepted that it was his behavior that caused the situation.

So he has a cheer squad behind him at a time when his ego sorely needed a tune-up. Not a good combo.

Still not sure that the new story has any merit - another he said she said?
 
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I think one thing that adds to his behavior is the fact that many excused his behavior too much. I think it can make him feel righteous in his actions. While his actions may have been legal....but I do not believe he ever REALLY accepted that it was his behavior that caused the situation.

So he has a cheer squad behind him at a time when his ego sorely needed a tune-up. Not a good combo.

Still not sure that the new story has any merit - another he said she said?

And he received money and support! People sent him letters and money for his case to show their support! Can you imagine that!!

I generally don't play the race card, but I really don't see people sending GZ money for defense if the kid he killed hadn't been a "nolimitnigga" who drank the purple drank.
 
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Why did the judge stop there??? Why didn't he also order that Zimmerman wear a tracking anklet with his location continuously posted online and that Zimmerman wear a target shirt so no one mistakes someone else for him?

As much as many people love to hate on Zimmerman, in fact he has no final conviction of anything.
This was not a gun offense. No one was hurt. It is a she says - he says thing apparently by a woman who gave Zimmerman as a excuse to try to get out of a ticket.

Despite this, the judge ruled that Zimmerman's 2A rights are eliminated as if he is a convicted felon on probation and despite the numerous death threats he has no right to defend himself - and the judge wanted exactly everyone to know it including those who want to murder him.

Do you think the judge will have succeeded in having Zimmerman assassinated?
 
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Once again, this is not a normal case. It wasn't a woman phoning in a complaint. It was a woman on a traffic stop. I suppose blaming your boyfriend is a good excuse for speeding or running a stop sign. "I am in a hurry to get away from my boyfriend. He threw something at me. His name is George Zimmerman."

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN?!?! No better way to get your name in the newspaper than that. To be the officer who FINALLY GOT George Zimmerman! Hell no that officer wasn't going to follow normal practice - in the officer's own reasoning. He wanted the GEORGE ZIMMERMAN case for himself. "THIS IS MY CASE! I GOT THE ZIMMERMAN CASE!"

The officer decided that George Zimmerman is HIS case ALONE, no one else is going to get the fame, so contrary to practice decided he was going to keep the case all for himself.

And, predictably, 80% of those on the forum have decided obviously he's guilty of this, everything he's ever been accused of, and even more that he hadn't.

The case sounds like crap to me, but sooner or later they are going to get him. One way or another. This is Florida. Why the hell he stays here is beyond me. If the law doesn't like you, GET OUT OF FLORIDA!
 
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It's not illegal to follow someone through a neighborhood.

It's not illegal to walk through a neighborhood in the rain. It's not illegal to take off running when followed. It's not illegal to defend yourself if you perceive somebody is a threat to you.

I believe that at one point in time Trayvon saw Zimmerman as a threat, and Zimmerman saw Trayvon as a threat. But because Zimmerman lived and Trayvon was killed, only Zimmerman was able to claim self defense in the court of law.
 
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I think "provoked" is pretty on point. He followed around TM both in and out of his vehicle. And yeah, TM should have run home with his tail between his legs and called the police to tell them of a friggen stalker.

If Trayvon made it home, Zimmerman would have been out to get him the next time. In Zimmerman's mind, Trayvon was guilty and that's why he ran. Zimmerman would have remembered the ****ing punk, and would try to stop him next time.

I do think that Zimmerman scared the **** out of Trayvon. Trayvon didn't deserve to die. He was just going to store. Being a teen in a confrontational situation, he didn't handle the situation the best way possible. Teens don't make the best decisions, and I don't think Trayvon is a bad, immoral thug who deserved to die. I think the majority of the guilt rests on Zimmerman. Zimmerman was an adult, and Zimmerman had a position of power in the neighborhood. George acted irresponsible and made a number of horrible choices that night, so it's not surprising that he continues to **** up.
 
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