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George Zimmerman arrested on suspected domestic violence[W:124]

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Crosscheck said:
Once a punk always a punk. Needing a weapon so that you can rough up a female means you are pathetic punk.

I know if that was my daughter he roughed up I would pay him a visit personally.
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Maybe that's why Zimmerman chased Trayvon? He thought he was a woman who wouldn't hit back.
 
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Trayvon martin was a THUG a nasty little THUG who should be in Jail right now but unfortunately for him he decided to attack a wannabe cop with anger issues and is now a dead THUG. Good riddance.
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
There fixed it for you
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He wasn't even required to go to the hospital... his wounds were entirely superficial. If it was a sanctioned fight, it wouldn't have been stopped. GZ tried to start **** with a teenager because the kid was black, he got his ass handed to him, and he shot the kid. He's a sad, pathetic, little man.
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
Even assuming what you're saying is true, which a jury didn't buy, how much of an ass beating are you obligated to take for being wrong? Is getting into a fight now death penalty offense if you're losing? One blow to the head? To blows to the head? Exactly how much are you supposed to allow the other person to kick your ass before you can finally disengage yourself from the fight?
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Of course the opposite is now true. Carry your gun and start all the fights you want. You always get to win that way. Unless the OTHER guy has a gun too, of course.

The simple and unavoidable fact is that without Zimmerman's persistent, repeated actions, Martin would still be alive. He would never have even known Z existed.
 
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Thrilla said:
I have zero problems with what he did to Trayvon Martin.... but this dude needs help.
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What if one of his female victims was winning a fight? Cool to shoot her too?
 
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Thrilla said:
true.. a truly heroic person would allow himself to be beaten to death.

only cowards defend themselves with superior force.
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Which they brought just in case they bit off more than they could chew.
 
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When Johnny Depp was young, he was considered a bad boy and he was cute... but it's not the same as seeking an actual criminal to date. And George isn't really criminal. He has never been found guilty of anything. He doesn't have an actual record to my knowledge. Maybe these girl's feel sorry for him or think he is a hero... :shrug:

Thrilla said:
never?

it's the "bad boy" thing.

it's why thugs, gangbangers, gansta rappers, felons, drug dealers, 1% bikers, and general lowlifes actually have girlfriends and wives....if chicks didn't dig "bad boys" all these dudes would be single.


hell, Charles Manson just got married, ferchristsake...
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Thrilla said:
well, the evidence supports his story...and there is a distinct lack of evidence to contradict it.

nobody can make you believe anything you don't want to believe... but i think it's kinda wise to take evidence into the equation in cases like this.
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The only evidence as to how it started comes from Zimmerman.

And with his subsequent actions, the milquetoast, meek demeanor he maintains in his story becomes less believable.

I still think he showed or Martin saw the gun. THAT would explain Martins actions. There just isn't any prior behavior that supports the theory of an unprovoked murderous attack. Nothing in his texts or emails that suggests anything but youthful preening for girls and pot use (and "drank").
 
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MaggieD said:
Yeah, you're probably right. But I'll say this, "Getting GZ arrested for domestic violence, whether true or not, is EZ-PZ." How about we wait to see if he's convicted?
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Yeah nobody on this forum was there but everyone KNOWS what happened. I'm not saying he didn't assault anyone but it's waaay to early for knee jerk reactions. And quite honestly it could have been nothing more then an argument, cops show up and she says he hit her, BAM man goes to jail! Yes its that easy.
 
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whysoserious said:
He wasn't even required to go to the hospital... his wounds were entirely superficial. If it was a sanctioned fight, it wouldn't have been stopped. GZ tried to start **** with a teenager because the kid was black, he got his ass handed to him, and he shot the kid. He's a sad, pathetic, little man.
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No sanctioned fight has a contestants head above pavement, the fact there was any injury to the back of Zs head is evidence of attempted murder by M. Go ask an attorney. Striking a grounded person in the head can be charged in that manner
 
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What if...? said:
What if one of his female victims was winning a fight? Cool to shoot her too?
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depends on the particulars, but yes.. it's allowable for men to defend themselves against women

why would you believe it's not?
 
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What if...? said:
The only evidence as to how it started comes from Zimmerman.

And with his subsequent actions, the milquetoast, meek demeanor he maintains in his story becomes less believable.

I still think he showed or Martin saw the gun. THAT would explain Martins actions. There just isn't any prior behavior that supports the theory of an unprovoked murderous attack. Nothing in his texts or emails that suggests anything but youthful preening for girls and pot use (and "drank").
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so you believe Z showed him the gun and TM then decided to fight him?.. and that is somehow more believable?:lol:
in any case, if TM initiated violence, Z is justified in defending himself.... there's no evidence to contradict the story Z told, so.. umm.. yeah.. there it is.

I don't care about his pot use or "drank" or preening for girls... it's irrelevant to me... it's irrelevant to the case.
 
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What if...? said:
Of course the opposite is now true. Carry your gun and start all the fights you want. You always get to win that way. Unless the OTHER guy has a gun too, of course.

The simple and unavoidable fact is that without Zimmerman's persistent, repeated actions, Martin would still be alive. He would never have even known Z existed.
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what evidence do you have that Z started a fight?.... and why didn't you turn this evidence over to the prosecution?
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
No sanctioned fight has a contestants head above pavement, the fact there was any injury to the back of Zs head is evidence of attempted murder by M. Go ask an attorney. Striking a grounded person in the head can be charged in that manner
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I do not like, but fully accept that Zimmerman was acquitted of the murder charges. But the reality is that Zimmerman brought on his own misery - he stalked a kid who was walking in the dark. He did the whole wannabe police thing and was surprised that the kid didn't like being stalked.

Not guilty, sure. Not responsible for his current misery? Hell no.

I remember being stalked (and eventually mugged). I felt someone was behind me, but it was too dark to see. I had no safe avenue to safety. I got closer to my destination and I felt the hand on my soldier. The reality was that I was so freaked by the prior few minutes that if the person that approached me only wanted directions...I believe my response would have been the same. I went nuts on the guy and I got lucky. When he was down on the ground I kicked the **** out of him.

You do not stalk people. Especially in the dark.

But yeah. Zimmerman was not guilty, but personally responsible for his current situation.
 
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Thrilla said:
what evidence do you have that Z started a fight?.... and why didn't you turn this evidence over to the prosecution?
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I do not think he started it, but his actions provoked the whole situation.
 
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year2late said:
I do not think he started it, but his actions provoked the whole situation.
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"contributed to",most assuredly.... "provoked", I feel, is a pretty harsh term to use... though it's less harsh than "caused"
a person following you can't be construed as a legitimate provocation to initiate violence...it's a cause of concern, to be sure, but not a provocation for violence.

I feel the same about TM... his actions contributed, as well.
 
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What if...? said:
Of course the opposite is now true. Carry your gun and start all the fights you want. You always get to win that way. Unless the OTHER guy has a gun too, of course.

The simple and unavoidable fact is that without Zimmerman's persistent, repeated actions, Martin would still be alive. He would never have even known Z existed.
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If Trayvon had a gun then he would have been within his rights to stand his ground with a gun.
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
No sanctioned fight has a contestants head above pavement, the fact there was any injury to the back of Zs head is evidence of attempted murder by M. Go ask an attorney. Striking a grounded person in the head can be charged in that manner
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Trayvon had a right to defend himself from an aggressor who was following him around his neighborhood.

Regarding GZ, he got his ass kicked. I don't feel bad for him. He deserved it and he seems like he needs another one since he's taken to beating up women lately.
 
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whysoserious said:
Trayvon had a right to defend himself from an aggressor who was following him around his neighborhood.

Regarding GZ, he got his ass kicked. I don't feel bad for him. He deserved it and he seems like he needs another one since he's taken to beating up women lately.
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It's not illegal to follow someone through a neighborhood.
 
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Thrilla said:
"contributed to",most assuredly.... "provoked", I feel, is a pretty harsh term to use... though it's less harsh than "caused"
a person following you can't be construed as a legitimate provocation to initiate violence...it's a cause of concern, to be sure, but not a provocation for violence.

I feel the same about TM... his actions contributed, as well.
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I think "provoked" is pretty on point. He followed around TM both in and out of his vehicle. And yeah, TM should have run home with his tail between his legs and called the police to tell them of a friggen stalker.
 
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This guy has issues. No question around it.
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
It's not illegal to follow someone through a neighborhood.
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It's not illegal for you to stand on a chair in a restaurant and try to look down my wife's blouse. But if you get up to go use the restroom don't be surprized if the restroom light gets flicked off and you receive a boot up your ass.

Forget the legalities, just use some common sense.
 
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