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Atlanta Ousts Fire Chief Who Has Antigay Views

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/us/atlanta-ousts-fire-chief-who-has-antigay-views.html?_r=0

ATLANTA — Mayor Kasim Reed announced Tuesday that he had fired the chief of the city’s Fire Rescue Department, Kelvin Cochran, after Mr. Cochran gave workers a religious book he wrote containing passages that condemn homosexuality.

Mr. Reed had suspended Mr. Cochran for a month without pay in November, opening an investigation into whether Mr. Cochran’s authorship and distribution of the book to workers violated the city’s nondiscrimination policies. That move sparked a debate about religious liberty and freedom of expression: Last month, the 1.4-million member Georgia Baptist Convention began an online petition that called for Mr. Cochran’s reinstatement and suggested his First Amendment rights had been violated.

The matter also presents a challenge for Mr. Reed, a second-term Democrat who presides over a metropolis whose social mosaic is defined by strong expressions of Christianity and large and politically powerful gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual groups.

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Homosexual Agenda strikes again
 
He should have been fired for handing out religious books alone.
 
He should have been fired for handing out religious books alone.

Yeah the publishers and distributors of the Gideon Bible should be in prison.

Ever heard of the first amendment?
 
Yeah the publishers and distributors of the Gideon Bible should be in prison.

Ever heard of the first amendment?

The gideons are a private charity, the ATL fire department is a governmental dept.
 
Yeah the publishers and distributors of the Gideon Bible should be in prison.

Ever heard of the first amendment?

The publishers and distributors of the Gideon Bible are not going around to people's work places and forcing their religious non-sense on other people.
 
He should have been fired for handing out religious books alone.
Why should someone lose their job over that? Would you support his firing if he passed out pro-gay marriage leaflets too? Or books by Richard Dawkins? Why are liberals so intolerant?
 
Why should someone lose their job over that? Would you support his firing if he passed out pro-gay marriage leaflets too? Or books by Richard Dawkins? Why are liberals so intolerant?

If he is working for a government department he shouldn't be advocating *any* point of view while on the clock.
 
The publishers and distributors of the Gideon Bible are not going around to people's work places and forcing their religious non-sense on other people.

No one was forcing anything. [except the homosexual lobby]
 
Yeah the publishers and distributors of the Gideon Bible should be in prison.

Ever heard of the first amendment?

You think the right of Govt. officials to promote their religious views is in the 1st amendment? Quite the opposite.
 
Why should someone lose their job over that? Would you support his firing if he passed out pro-gay marriage leaflets too? Or books by Richard Dawkins? Why are liberals so intolerant?

I'm not a liberal. The government has an obligation not to endorse any religion. It has no place in government. If you want a government that is a theocracy go join ISIS.
 
Who said anyone was on the clock?

in the OP that you posted ...

ATLANTA — Mayor Kasim Reed announced Tuesday that he had fired the chief of the city’s Fire Rescue Department, Kelvin Cochran, after Mr. Cochran gave workers a religious book he wrote containing passages that condemn homosexuality.

so your contention is that he didnt do this on the clock or used his managerial influence to help convince workers to take his book?
 
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No one was forcing anything. [except the homosexual lobby]

Mr. Cochran gave workers a religious book he wrote containing passages that condemn homosexuality.

So which books were being passed out by the "homosexual lobby"?
 
oh no! Not the *gulp* Homosexual Agenda...... again!! :shock:




Yep, now they getting people fired for their personal and religious views.

Cochran also served as U.S. Fire Administrator under President Obama from 2009-10.

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So which books were being passed out by the "homosexual lobby"?

It was old videos of the 1980s show "my two dads"

Those homosexuals really need to step up their game!
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/us/atlanta-ousts-fire-chief-who-has-antigay-views.html?_r=0

ATLANTA — Mayor Kasim Reed announced Tuesday that he had fired the chief of the city’s Fire Rescue Department, Kelvin Cochran, after Mr. Cochran gave workers a religious book he wrote containing passages that condemn homosexuality.

Mr. Reed had suspended Mr. Cochran for a month without pay in November, opening an investigation into whether Mr. Cochran’s authorship and distribution of the book to workers violated the city’s nondiscrimination policies. That move sparked a debate about religious liberty and freedom of expression: Last month, the 1.4-million member Georgia Baptist Convention began an online petition that called for Mr. Cochran’s reinstatement and suggested his First Amendment rights had been violated.

The matter also presents a challenge for Mr. Reed, a second-term Democrat who presides over a metropolis whose social mosaic is defined by strong expressions of Christianity and large and politically powerful gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual groups.

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Homosexual Agenda strikes again

Not quite. It was not the homosexual agenda that took him down, it was his own idea that he could write such a book and have no consequences as an employee of the city that took him down. Cochran's 1st Amendment rights were not violated nor was he subjected to discrimination. He was an employee of the city and subject to employment policies of the city. Writing the book would put any mayor into a rough position of being between various Christian Groups who want to see more books like this vs. the LGBT groups just waiting for the next one written. And I am willing to bet there is an ethics clause of some sort in that agreement with the city. Cochran should have known better no matter what he claims he got approved by whoever he claims he went to, and it is rather naive on his part to assume this would not have caused a backlash.

The good news is he is no longer an employee of the city. And can write all the anti-gay literature he would like, still not having his 1st Amendment rights violated.
 
He wasn't selling them. People weren't forced to take them.

Govt. officials promoting religious views violates the separation of church and state. Why is that so difficult for you? You want a theocracy?
What if he was a Muslim handing out Jihad pamphlets? Still OK with you?
 
Yep, now they getting people fired for their personal and religious views.

Cochran also served as U.S. Fire Administrator under President Obama from 2009-10.

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Dude, srsly...he was not fired for his views, he was fired for passing out religious pamphlets to his subordinates. That is a nono. You can't do that. If he had passed out pro-gay pamphlets to his subordinates, that would be a nono too. It is not the view, it is the action.
 
The " politically powerful gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual groups" were forcing their agenda.

and your proof is...?
 
Yep, now they getting people fired for their personal and religious views.

So if he was handing out flyers to promote Sharia Law you would still be on here defending him right? :lamo
 
Govt. officials promoting religious views violates the separation of church and state. Why is that so difficult for you? You want a theocracy?

Many seem to want just that.
 
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