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Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

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Grant said:
Why is Obama the only one who needs a motorcade?
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The whole point is that it wasn't possible to ensure his safety with only 36 hours notice.

You do care about the Presidents safety, right?
 
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Thorgasm said:
The whole point is that it wasn't possible to ensure his safety with only 36 hours notice.

You do care about the Presidents safety, right?
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I don't!


And yes that goes for all of them, with the possible exception of harding.
 
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Thorgasm said:
The whole point is that it wasn't possible to ensure his safety with only 36 hours notice.You do care about the Presidents safety, right?
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Obama has these endless motorcades wherever he goes and they are largely useless. After spending millions on security these guys can't even higher a competent translator or keep trespassers away from the White House. It's about prestige, not security. If these world leaders are brave enough, why not Obama?
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
I don't!


And yes that goes for all of them, with the possible exception of harding.
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Yes, but what about the other people around him who could be harmed by his mere presence?
 
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Grant said:
Obama has these endless motorcades wherever he goes and they are largely useless. After spending millions on security these guys can't even higher a competent translator or keep trespassers away from the White House. It's about prestige, not security. If these world leaders are brave enough, why not Obama?
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If they can't keep trespassers away from the White House, why would you want them to attempt to secure him in a million person rally?
 
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Thorgasm said:
If they can't keep trespassers away from the White House, why would you want them to attempt to secure him in a million person rally?
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The point is that these security details are of no apparent use. Let Obama walk with other world leaders, if he has the gonads. It seems he doesn't.
 
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Grant said:
The point is that these security details are of no apparent use. Let Obama walk with other world leaders, if he has the gonads. It seems he doesn't.
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Quick question, is there a history of a POTUS doing such a thing? You know, doing more than offering condolences after a terrorist attack?
 
Hatuey said:
Quick question, is there a history of a POTUS doing such a thing? You know, doing more than offering condolences after a terrorist attack?
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Why not Biden then ? Or Kerry ?

Or anyone substantial ?
 
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Hatuey said:
Quick question, is there a history of a POTUS doing such a thing? You know, doing more than offering condolences after a terrorist attack?
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Many times foreign leaders attend funerals in other countries to show their respect, and this time it was being done in an effort to display solidarity against terrorism and for free speech.. Obama didn't even send a representative.

But of course he had already sent a message prior to these murders.

“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” -Barrack H. Obama.
 
Fenton said:
Why not Biden then ? Or Kerry ?

Or anyone substantial ?
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LOL!! That is what's called 'substantial' in the Obama Administration. The best and brightest America has to offer. Isn't it a damned shame it's actually come to this?
 
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j-mac said:
Good point....Where the HELL was Obama yesterday in the march with nearly all of the major countries leaders? What the hell is it about this President that he can't stand with our allies?
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Obama was probably golfing, and in doing so snubbed the rest of the free world.
 
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Grant said:
Many times foreign leaders attend funerals in other countries to show their respect,
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That's not what I asked you. I asked you if there was a history of POTUS' showing up to other countries after terrorist attacks. Is there such a history, Grant?
 
Fenton said:
Why not Biden then ? Or Kerry ?

Or anyone substantial ?
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Hmmm, did foreign leaders send their dignitaries to march with Bush after 9/11? C'man. Where were these "substantial dignitaries" from the Western World after the Boston Bombing?
 
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Hatuey said:
That's not what I asked you. I asked you if there was a history of POTUS' showing up to other countries after terrorist attacks. Is there such a history, Grant?
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Look, If not Obama....fine...Holder was there for Christ's sake....Where the hell was he?
 
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Hatuey said:
That's not what I asked you. I asked you if there was a history of POTUS' showing up to other countries after terrorist attacks. Is there such a history, Grant?
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How can there be a history if this is the first time terrorism occurred for a clear freedom of speech issue? And whether it happened in the past or not is unimportant. The fact is that world leaders gathered together to demonstrate solidarity with those who died and their support for free speech. Do you get the point?

Instead Obama said this.“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”

He has made his position quite clear with this earlier statement at the UN and by not attending and not even releasing a statement immediately after the Hebedo massacre occurred, doubled down. He was certainly not this reluctant to discuss Treyvon Martin or the goings on in Ferguson. Has he bothered to make a statement yet about Boko Haram in Africa? If he has I think we can safely say it was not the real Islam.
 
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Hatuey said:
Hmmm, so what? The United States sent its official representative in France to the march. You know, the person whose job it is to just that:

Holder, top US official in Paris for terror talks, not seen at unity march | Fox News
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An incredible piece!! Holder was even in Paris at the time!

And this is too much!
Speaking from Paris, Holder said in a series of interviews with the Sunday morning news shows in Washington that investigators at this point don't have "any credible information" to determine which terrorist group was responsible for the attacks in Paris.
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That matters now??
 
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Grant said:
How can there be a history if this is the first time terrorism occurred for a clear freedom of speech issue?
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Good grief, I wanted you to try and play this argument because it's just clear how partisan your stance on this issue is. It's almost like you've never heard of Theo Van Gogh's murder. Here, educate yourself:

Theo van Gogh (film director) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Van Gogh was murdered by Mohammed Bouyeri while cycling to work on 2 November 2004 at about 9 o'clock in the morning, in front of the Amsterdam East borough office (stadsdeelkantoor), on the corner of the Linnaeusstraat and Tweede Oosterparkstraat (52°21′32.22″N 4°55′34.74″E).[7] The killer shot Van Gogh eight times with an HS2000 handgun. Bouyeri was also on a bicycle and fired several bullets, hitting Van Gogh and two bystanders. Wounded, Van Gogh ran to the other side of the road and fell to the ground on the cycle lane. According to eyewitnesses, Van Gogh's last words were "Don't do it, don't do it." or "Have mercy, have mercy, don't do it, don't do it."[8] Bouyeri walked up to Van Gogh, who was on the ground, and calmly shot him several more times at close range.[9][10]
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2008 Danish embassy bombing in Islamabad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 2008 Danish embassy bombing was an attack on the Danish embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan on 2 June 2008. The suspected suicide car bombing in the parking lot of the embassy took place at around 12:10 pm (UTC+5), killing at least five and wounding many more. The Danish national security intelligence agency PET concluded that al-Qaeda was behind the attack.[2] Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility for the attack on 5 June 2008. The attack was confirmed to be an answer to the reprinting of Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten's Muhammed cartoons in February 2006, as well as the presence of Danish troops in Afghanistan.[3][4]
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Are you going to answer the question now? Or are you going to try and avoid answering it once more? So again, is there a history of US politicians marching after terrorist attacks where free speech is at the centerpoint? The Danish embassy was attacked because of the Mohammed Cartoons. Theo Van Gogh was murdered for his movie Obsession. Where was the US president then? Was he marching?
 
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whysoserious said:
Mmk. As a nation, I'd be glad if you and your state left the union and left us liberals to destroy it on our own. Good luck in your state that is probably in the top 5 worst states in the country.
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While it is true that Alabama suffered under 136 years of democratic rule we have been freed recently. Have you ever been to Huntsville? We have more degreed people h\per per capita than just about everyplace.

I would be glad too. I propose we take all of the Republican states.
 
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j-mac said:
So, just say it....You're fine with snubbing our allies...Who needs em...Right?
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We snubbed them by sending our top representative in the country to march with them? Who did they send to attend the 9/11 rallies? I hear France sent a phonecall.
 
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Hatuey said:
We snubbed them by sending our top representative in the country to march with them? Who did they send to attend the 9/11 rallies? I hear France sent a phonecall.
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Why do you dislike our allies?
 
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j-mac said:
Why do you dislike our allies?
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Did you ever answer my question? How many foreign dignitaries showed up next to Bush after 911? Who attended the rallies? How many sent anything other than their condolences via phone calls? C'man, be kind and find the data. Where were our allies during the Boston Bombing? Did they march with us? Did they march with the Dutch after Theo Van Gogh was murdered? Did they march with the Danish after their embassy bombings over the Muslim cartoons? C'man answer honest and you'll realize the US did what every other country has historically done. They sent their condolences and sent their official representative in the country. That you continue to avoid that fact is your problem. :)
 
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