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Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

countryboy said:
That's why I said it is not unreasonable to assume one tenth of one percent as potential radicalized combatants. That number would be 1.57 million individuals.
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Not unreasonable at all. Though I am sure you have noticed that Muslims do a fine job of killing their fellow Muslims.
And 1 reason why the West becomes involved. Iraq being the country I am referring to.
Mali was different though.
 
RDS said:
Read your blasphemy statutes.

In the United States, a law against blasphemy, or a prosecution on that ground, would violate the American Constitution. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press..." While there are no federal laws which forbid "religious vilification" or "religious insult" or "hate speech", some states have blasphemy statutes.
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Nice copy and paste from Wikipedia. :roll: Such laws are unenforceable. Blasphemy law in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Misterveritis said:
The death of the nation won't come from terrorist attacks. It will come from the gradual erosion of our culture and language. Islam is not compatible with self rule.
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Absolutely! Islamists won't kill free speech

This, apropos of what you just said, sums it up neatly and is proven correct by leftists statements throughout the 'free' world.

human beings find a way of rationalizing their behaviour so that they can claim they are refraining from publishing or saying something not out of fear but because they don’t wish to offend. They convert the base notion of being scared into a noble weapon of seeing someone else’s point of view. In fact, this is one of the most insidious aspects of terrorism: we wash our brains and convert our fear into understanding.
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I'll be using that again!
 
countryboy said:
That's why I said it is not unreasonable to assume one tenth of one percent as potential radicalized combatants. That number would be 1.57 million individuals.
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ISIl- about 40 K-
Pakistan- wild guess 50 K.
A Stan 50 K -
Long way from 1.57 combatants.
Potential can be misleading -Many have the potential to kill under certain circumstances.
 
Re: Terror Attack In Paris

countryboy said:
I'm not surprised. :wink:
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You're not surprised? Please tell me what is intelligent about your argument that because there are some things liberals and European politics have in common, that means liberals want to have Sharia law. That is the definition of a non sequitur, friend.
 
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whysoserious said:
You're not surprised? Please tell me what is intelligent about your argument that because there are some things liberals and European politics have in common, that means liberals want to have Sharia law. That is the definition of a non sequitur, friend.
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It is liberal ideals that led to the current Islamic scourge being experienced in France. If you don't understand the danger in that, I can't help you. Look what it has wrought.
 
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countryboy said:
It is liberal ideals that led to the current Islamic scourge being experienced in France. If you don't understand the danger in that, I can't help you. Look what it has wrought.
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Yes, liberals are responsible for the right-wing Islamic extremists in France.
 
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whysoserious said:
Yes, liberals are responsible for the right-wing Islamic extremists in France.
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Yes, they are responsible for the unchecked immigration of radicals into their country. Who else is? The conservatives?

I know your description of "right wing Islamic extremists" was meant to be a dig at American conservatives, but that is about as lame as it gets. Fascism is a left wing trait by American standards. You and your ilk have more in common with European "right wingers" than any American conservative.
 
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whysoserious said:
Yes, liberals are responsible for the right-wing Islamic extremists in France.
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With any sort of research at all you'll find that it s the leftists who have expressed sympathy for the terrorists. The right has no use for them at all, and offers no excuses for terrorism.
 
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countryboy said:
Yes, they are responsible for the unchecked immigration of radicals into their country. Who else is? The conservatives?

I know your description of "right wing Islamic extremists" was meant to be a dig at American conservatives, but that is about as lame as it gets. Fascism is a left wing trait by American standards. You and your ilk have more in common with European "right wingers" than any American conservative.
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Religious controlled facism is more right wing... but we're just mud slinging at this point. There is no one really to blame for this but Islamic extremists. Why don't you focus your energy on that instead of hacking it up and blaming liberals like you always do?
 
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Grant said:
With any sort of research at all you'll find that it s the leftists who have expressed sympathy for the terrorists. The right has no use for them at all, and offers no excuses for terrorism.
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No one has expressed sympathy for the terrorists. Quit making **** up. That's ****ing ridiculous.
 
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whysoserious said:
Religious controlled facism is more right wing... but we're just mud slinging at this point. There is no one really to blame for this but Islamic extremists. Why don't you focus your energy on that instead of hacking it up and blaming liberals like you always do?
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Right wing fascism has nothing to do with American conservatism, religious or otherwise.

I understand, the truth hurts.
 
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countryboy said:
Right wing fascism has nothing to do with American conservatism, religious or otherwise.

I understand, the truth hurts.
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Right, because it's the left that thinks this is a "Christian nation" and wants to legislate based off of religion... oh wait.

Again, why have this argument to begin with. It's not a left or right issue - it's a ****ing terrorism issue.
 
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whysoserious said:
Right, because it's the left that thinks this is a "Christian nation" and wants to legislate based off of religion... oh wait.

Again, why have this argument to begin with. It's not a left or right issue - it's a ****ing terrorism issue.
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No, it's a Left against Normal People issue. Only leftists concern themselves with a Christian theocracy in the US, or you claiming a "Christian nation". That has nothing to do with the topic at hand but everything to do with the very strange world inhabited by Leftists. Keep in mind that it was the goofy leftists who re-elected BHO. Fool me once is fine but Leftists actually went back for more of the same. Now we see Islamists everywhere doing their thing. Crimes against humanity continue and Leftists still won't get it.

The biggest problem with leftists is that they believe themselves to be knowledgeable, and therefore cannot learn a thing.
 
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"The death of the nation won't come from terrorist attacks. It will come from the gradual erosion of our culture and language. Islam is not compatible with self rule."
Gaius46 said:
More likely from our government continually eroding our freedoms, with our assent, because we act like scared little children needing to be protected by mama bear in Washington.
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Our thoughts are not incompatible.
 
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whysoserious said:
Yes, liberals are responsible for the right-wing Islamic extremists in France.
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LOL. It is a wonder you ever get anything right.

Who pushes multiculturalism and plays down assimilation? Liberals. Not Conservatives. How do the Islamofascists get into the western nations? Liberals have opened the floodgates and continue to lie about the dangers. Islamofascists are authoritarian-theological statists. They do not support individual rights nor individual liberties. You are fundamentally wrong.
 
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Misterveritis said:
LOL. It is a wonder you ever get anything right.

Who pushes multiculturalism and plays down assimilation? Liberals. Not Conservatives. How do the Islamofascists get into the western nations? Liberals have opened the floodgates and continue to lie about the dangers. Islamofascists are authoritarian-theological statists. They do not support individual rights nor individual liberties. You are fundamentally wrong.
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Leftist are on the defensive and on the run, the Internet has lead to the exposure of lie after leftist lie...
 
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Misterveritis said:
LOL. It is a wonder you ever get anything right.

Who pushes multiculturalism and plays down assimilation? Liberals. Not Conservatives. How do the Islamofascists get into the western nations? Liberals have opened the floodgates and continue to lie about the dangers. Islamofascists are authoritarian-theological statists. They do not support individual rights nor individual liberties. You are fundamentally wrong.
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This Muslim employee at the Jewish store saved most of the hostages by hiding them in the cold store and turning off the light before going back to the terrorists to keep them away. That's pretty multicultural.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
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This Muslim employee at the Jewish store saved most of the hostages by hiding them in the cold store and turning off the light before going back to the terrorists to keep them away. That's pretty multicultural.
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LOL. I am delighted that an employee did what he could. One example of one person doing what was right does not prove your point. It is an exception that proves the rule.

But don't let the French example get in the way of your liberalism.
 
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