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Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

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Gill said:
You should.
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Nah, stats only matter when they can bolster ones argument....Other than that they are meaningless...Didn't you know that?
 
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j-mac said:
Nah, stats only matter when they can bolster ones argument....Other than that they are meaningless...Didn't you know that?
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It's funny, you guys are claiming stats and reality are so important yet only seem to pull stats out of your asses.
 
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whysoserious said:
No, I'm not hopping on board this let's blame Muslims train. It's a train of ****ing ignorance and idiocy.
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Neither am I, but it should be obvious to any thinking person that extremist Muslims have killed far more people than mothers that have drowned their children.

Do you REALLY doubt this???
 
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whysoserious said:
No, I'm not hopping on board this let's blame Muslims train. It's a train of ****ing ignorance and idiocy.
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Really? And letting everyone in is so much better, its not your nation to give away..
 
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Gill said:
Neither am I, but it should be obvious to any thinking person that extremist Muslims have killed far more people than mothers that have drowned their children.

Do you REALLY doubt this???
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They can not, until THIS happens, and then they just blame the west, its people, its cultures, its freedoms...
 
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Gill said:
Neither am I, but it should be obvious to any thinking person that extremist Muslims have killed far more people than mothers that have drowned their children.

Do you REALLY doubt this???
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Way to narrow the comparison. Was Tim McVeigh an atheist?
 
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whysoserious said:
No, I'm not hopping on board this let's blame Muslims train. It's a train of ****ing ignorance and idiocy.
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The vast majority of Muslims practice the Islamic religion.
There are Islamic fundamentalist sects withing the Islamic religion.
It was Islamic fundamentalist, jihadists who committed this violent attack.

There's an argument that states the continued excuses given to the entire population of Muslims for the acts of their fundamentalist, jihadists brethren weakens the impact and leverage of the more moderate Muslims of the Islamic faith to marginalize and control their fundamentalist, jihadists brethren, i.e. to make them give up their Jihad against the West. If you continue to make excuses for them, and continue to appease them, it only emboldens them to attack more and more violently.

This really is a religious war. A religious war that's being conducted by the Islamic fundamentalists at their own choosing. These Islamic fundamentalists will not stop their religious war until their are dead. It's part of their very being. This also makes them completely unreasoning and not negotiable on this aspect of their religious war.

The West needs to come to grips with this reality, and stop treating it like a law enforcement and police matter, and treat it as most any war would be, with the military and an aim to stop the attacks by killing the aggressors, wiping out their infrastructure, deny them land to operate, and to destroy their ability to operate as an effective force, terrorist or otherwise. Continuing to treat this religious war as a law enforcement and police matter is seriously wrong headed, and is sure to only do what Obama's shift in policy has accomplished, which is to further embolden them.
 
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eohrnberger said:
The vast majority of Muslims practice the Islamic religion.
There are Islamic fundamentalist sects withing the Islamic religion.
It was Islamic fundamentalist, jihadists who committed this violent attack.

There's an argument that states the continued excuses given to the entire population of Muslims for the acts of their fundamentalist, jihadists brethren weakens the impact and leverage of the more moderate Muslims of the Islamic faith to marginalize and control their fundamentalist, jihadists brethren, i.e. to make them give up their Jihad against the West. If you continue to make excuses for them, and continue to appease them, it only emboldens them to attack more and more violently.

This really is a religious war. A religious war that's being conducted by the Islamic fundamentalists at their own choosing. These Islamic fundamentalists will not stop their religious war until their are dead. It's part of their very being. This also makes them completely unreasoning and not negotiable on this aspect of their religious war.

The West needs to come to grips with this reality, and stop treating it like a law enforcement and police matter, and treat it as most any war would be, with the military and an aim to stop the attacks by killing the aggressors, wiping out their infrastructure, deny them land to operate, and to destroy their ability to operate as an effective force, terrorist or otherwise. Continuing to treat this religious war as a law enforcement and police matter is seriously wrong headed, and is sure to only do what Obama's shift in policy has accomplished, which is to further embolden them.
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What do you think we have been doing for the last 13+ years?
 
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AmericanSpartan said:
Really? And letting everyone in is so much better, its not your nation to give away..
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Holy ****, you think we're having a discussion about not letting Muslims in?

LOL. We're on different planets right now. Welcome to Earth.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Way to narrow the comparison. Was Tim McVeigh an atheist?
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No, he was born Catholic, but claimed to be agnostic right before he died.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Way to narrow the comparison. Was Tim McVeigh an atheist?
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There is no competition and McVeigh has nothing to do with the thread. Can you not focus on "Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris", the thread title?

McVeigh is dead, done and dust.
 
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Gill said:
Neither am I, but it should be obvious to any thinking person that extremist Muslims have killed far more people than mothers that have drowned their children.

Do you REALLY doubt this???
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Probably?? That's a pretty random comparison though... I am not sure what you could really gather out of that.
 
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whysoserious said:
Probably?? That's a pretty random comparison though... I am not sure what you could really gather out of that.
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That Islam is a greater threat and has a higher body count...But why would you people gather that?
 
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AmericanSpartan said:
That Islam is a greater threat and has a higher body count...But why would you people gather that?
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I'm sure more cops have killed innocent people than mothers have drowned their babies as well, but I am not sure it is a statistic that actually ****ing matters.
 
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whysoserious said:
Probably?? That's a pretty random comparison though... I am not sure what you could really gather out of that.
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What can you gather from that... I'd say it's obvious that extremists Muslims probably killed more people in a week than the children drowned by their mothers in the past 10 years.

Feel free to post the stories of crazy mothers and I'll try to find a story or two about Islamist murders of innocent people.
 
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AmericanSpartan said:
Mostly the leftist parties of European nations, needing welfare voters to stay in power for the short time they have left.
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Exactly. They needed workers to pay taxes to support the social welfare programs they became dependent upon. The Third World was the likely place and, they assumed, that Muslims would soon fit right into their European cultures while adding a touch of color to their multicultural experiment.

What could possibly go wrong?
 
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Gill said:
What can you gather from that... I'd say it's obvious that extremists Muslims probably killed more people in a week than the children drowned by their mothers in the past 10 years.

Feel free to post the stories of crazy mothers and I'll try to find a story or two about Islamist murders of innocent people.
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I mean... if the mother's had the ability to kill 5, 10, 100, 500 babies... it might be an even playing field? LOL

Is this guy for ****ing real?
 
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