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Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

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Infinite Chaos said:
This is a duplicate of a thread already started in the Europe forum.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/213610-least-10-dead-paris-shooting.html

And this seems to be the reason why today's attack happened.

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Yeah that's awful. Certainly justifies killing a dozen people. Did you see all those peaceful Muslims protesting?
 
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beefheart said:
He changed. He renounced.

Read up.

And he wrote the ultimate book about the BS that is organized religion...every religion. You should read it.
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He was a wide eyed marxist in france in the 60's, and up until just a couple years before his death he was outspoken about this. If you are claiming he renounced marxism in his final few years, heres where you need to provide evidence, still I doubt you can do that.
 
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US Conservative said:
The religion spread violently and established its own islamic govt where it went. Why dont you know these basic facts?
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Islam is a religion.

Islam: definition of Islam in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Islam = The religion of the Muslims, a monotheistic faith regarded as revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah.

Inferior subhumans will always be inferior subhumans it seems. Dig yourself further, for my amusement if anything.

My point with Spartan was that I knew he was getting to the "let's go kill muslims" or "lets ban Islam!" part so I stopped him right in his tracks because the constitution permits muslims to practice their faith and such. You just went on a random ****ing rant to god knows where about Islamic peoples spreading violently and such when that was never even being discussed. Maybe you should keep your head in your own business if you can't read the conversation correctly?
 
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Peter King said:
Yes, right wing politicians like Geert Wilders, like Le Pen. Not the regular right wing politicians that is why I said some (and with some I mean extremist racist ones).
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You do understand that "Race" is not an issue here yet leftists like yourself insist on referring to "Race"? You'll never understand the problem if you don't understand the difference between Religion and Race or Culture, and it's that way with too many Leftists. It's just straightforward crazy.
 
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Luftwaffe said:
Islam is a religion.

Islam: definition of Islam in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Islam = The religion of the Muslims, a monotheistic faith regarded as revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah.

Inferior subhumans will always be inferior subhumans it seems. Dig yourself further, for my amusement if anything.

My point with Spartan was that I knew he was getting to the "let's go kill muslims" or "lets ban Islam!" part so I stopped him right in his tracks because the constitution permits muslims to practice their faith and such. You just went on a random ****ing rant to god knows where about Islamic peoples spreading violently and such when that was never even being discussed. Maybe you should keep your head in your own business if you can't read the conversation correctly?
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You go to the dictionary to see what Islam is? Political System
 
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Grim17 said:
When it comes to Christianity, it seems the message from the left is more like "freedom from religion".

Sorry for the interruption.
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When in doubt, ignore the topic entirely and whine about "the left."
 
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TeleKat said:
When in doubt, ignore the topic entirely and whine about "the left."
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It's usually the left who defends Islam, despite its terrorism, while being critical of Christianity. They are fools and this should be consistently pointed out.
 
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Grant said:
It's usually the left who defends Islam, despite its terrorism, while being critical of Christianity. They are fools and this should be consistently pointed out.
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The left has been strange bedfellows with Islamic terrorists for years. Now all of a sudden the right, who has been consistently condemning Islamic terrorism, is being criticized by the left for doing so.

This is what we get from the left.
 
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Grant said:
You go to the dictionary to see what Islam is? Political System
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Yes the dictionary is definitive when it comes to the explication of terms.

Islam is a term, therefor, if it must be explicated for whatever reason I will go to the dictionary like a normal person...
 
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Declan said:
A family saw their loved one in the police gunned down on a sidewalk because the magazine staff intentionally inflamed tensions instead of showing some responsibility and restraint. Freedoms are meaningless if people do not exercise those rights responsibly. It isn't like they did not know they were feeding hate while hiding behind those police officers forced to protect them. Is your life worth a cartoon being published?
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And that, ladies and gentleman is exactly how freedom is lost.
 
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AmericanSpartan said:
So you would allow the Ebola infected man into your home?
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No, I wouldn't let any stranger into my home that's dumb. And I have that right because it is my personal property.

It is a great comparison, you are changing the subject because your answer will make you look crazy.
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It is a terrible comparison and shows an elementary understanding of the subject at hand. Again: nations are not the same as houses, and pathogens are not the same as religious beliefs. At this point it's not even comparing apples to oranges, it's comparing apples to space shuttles.

Ebola and Islam are infections
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Pretty sure most biologists wuld beg to differ.

How can you have Islamic violence without Islam? You can not.

Know Islam Know its Violence, No Islam Non of its Violence.
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Huh?

You want to swamp Western nations? Well get us to this, and I promise you they will not give half a damn before they behead people like you...
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Funny, I've known several muslims throughout my life and my head is somehow still attached to my body. Weird how that works.
 
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US Conservative said:
The left has been strange bedfellows with Islamic terrorists for years. Now all of a sudden the right, who has been consistently condemning Islamic terrorism, is being criticized by the left for doing so. This is what we get from the left.
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The up-side is that there have been fewer complaints from the Left about Israel and the Jews, especially knowing now what the Jewish people have faced for decades.
 
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US Conservative said:
He was a wide eyed marxist in france in the 60's, and up until just a couple years before his death he was outspoken about this. If you are claiming he renounced marxism in his final few years, heres where you need to provide evidence, still I doubt you can do that.
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Hitchens defintely renounced Marxism

|After his disenchantment with socialism, Hitchens increasingly emphasized the centrality of the American Revolution in his political philosophy. As early as 2002, Hitchens wrote, "as the third millennium gets under way, and as the Russian and Chinese and Cuban revolutions drop below the horizon, it is possible to argue that the American revolution, with its promise of cosmopolitan democracy, is the only ‘model’ revolution that humanity has left to it".

Now watch this until the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iouhwXTQJIU

The lasy 5 seconds sums it up
 
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TeleKat said:
Funny, I've known several muslims throughout my life and my head is somehow still attached to my body. Weird how that works.
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You were in Iraq recently?
 
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Misterveritis said:
And we can still have it. But we do need to utterly rid ourselves of this scourge. Do you always side so readily with this nation's enemies?
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If we were to go with American Fascist's plan of mass deportations and entry barriers based on religious beliefs, that would be the end of religious freedom.
 
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Grant said:
So you weren't in any Muslim controlled area then?
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Again: we are talking about muslims in the west, not Iraq. Sparta is trying to make the case that we need mass deportation, travel bans, conentration camps, and whatever the hell else because allowing muslims to live here and practice their faith will mean heads will roll.

Obviously that's a load of crap because there are thousands of muslims living in the US and beheadings are basically unheard of.
 
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Grant said:
You do understand that "Race" is not an issue here yet leftists like yourself insist on referring to "Race"? You'll never understand the problem if you don't understand the difference between Religion and Race or Culture, and it's that way with too many Leftists. It's just straightforward crazy.
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Just because the rightwing thinks are the ones with all the knowledge but that does not make it the truth
 
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Luftwaffe said:
Yes the dictionary is definitive when it comes to the explication of terms.
Islam is a term, therefor, if it must be explicated for whatever reason I will go to the dictionary like a normal person...
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Not at all.
It's Notoriously SHORT on something as complex as the Religio-Political system called Islam.
I would not only say short, but even Disingenuous in this case.
ONE sentence to explain Islam?
One sentence just saying the basic following of Allah?
This is "definitive"?!?
"The religion of the Muslims, a monotheistic faith regarded as revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah."

WithOUT explaining ANY of it's tenets or Practices?
It's not even close to "definitive".

Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"...Religious concepts and practices include the Five pillars of Islam, which are basic concepts and Obligatory acts of worship, and following Islamic Law, which touches on virtually Every aspect of Life and Society, providing guidance on multifarious topics from Banking and Welfare, to Family life and the Environment.[6][7]​
 
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mbig said:
Not at all.
It's Notoriously SHORT on something as complex as the Religio-Political system called Islam.
I would not only say short, but even Disingenuous in this case.
ONE sentence to explain Islam?
One sentence just saying the basic following of Allah?
This is "definitive"?!?
"The religion of the Muslims, a monotheistic faith regarded as revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah."

WithOUT explaining ANY of it's tenets or Practices?

Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"...Religious concepts and practices include the Five pillars of Islam, which are basic concepts and Obligatory acts of worship, and following Islamic Law, which touches on virtually Every aspect of Life and Society, providing guidance on multifarious topics from Banking and Welfare, to Family life and the Environment.[6][7]​
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Is or is not, Islam a religion...
 
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Luftwaffe said:
Is or is not, Islam a religion...
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I stated AND justified (with Wiki) my position above.
"Islam is a Religio-Political system."
UNQUOTE.
You don't get to massage my posts buddy. Not even close.
 
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ataturk said:
Hitchens defintely renounced Marxism

|After his disenchantment with socialism, Hitchens increasingly emphasized the centrality of the American Revolution in his political philosophy. As early as 2002, Hitchens wrote, "as the third millennium gets under way, and as the Russian and Chinese and Cuban revolutions drop below the horizon, it is possible to argue that the American revolution, with its promise of cosmopolitan democracy, is the only ‘model’ revolution that humanity has left to it".

Now watch this until the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iouhwXTQJIU

The lasy 5 seconds sums it up
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I watched it (it was a good response), however did not renounce marxism in that passage, and your comment is speaking to socialism.
 
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