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Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

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I'm as secular and progressive as the next guy and certainly no friend to conservative Christianity but can we please, PLEASE, stop with this fiction that Islamist violence is at all comparable to Christian, Jewish, Hindu, etc extremism? It clearly isn't. I hate how we tip toe around the issue of whether or not there are unique problems at the core of Islam as it is practiced by vast numbers of people around the globe. Clearly there are and they need to be acknowledged.
 
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AFP reporting the youngest terrorist handed himself in to police.
 
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Yeah, that whole 'melting pot' **** and freedom of religion crap is a crock anyway. Who needs it?

It may be a melting pot but that is no excuse for stirring poison into the fondue.
 
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Also untrue. There was no intentional genocide of native Americans under the guise of religion (or anything else). You just dont know your history.

There absolutely was. It was called Manifest Destiny, a philosophy that this land belonged not to the Indians, but to the settlers, and that taking that land by any and all means was their God given right.
 
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This was just an AVERAGE day for Islam/Islamism
It just happened in France/The West.
Meanwhile...

thereligionofpeace.com

2015.01.07 (Zhari, Afghanistan) - Taliban bombers take out 2 children gathering firewood.
2015.01.07 (Baghlan, Afghanstan)- Six road workers are machine-gunned point-blank by Religion of Peace gunmen.
2015.01.07 (Sanaa, Yemen) - A al-Qaeda Suicide Bus Bomber scatters Body Parts and snuffs out 37 lives.
2015.01.06 (al-Jubba, Iraq) - A Suicide attack on a mosque and the ensuing clash leave two dozen dead.
 
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No, because I am not talking about extremists, them you can go after all you want. But there are in Europe (and I would assume in the US) people who are populists targeting all Muslims for the actions of a few extremists. Scapegoating an entire population of Muslims for the actions of a few nutjob (yes, there is a fair few out there but still, a small minority of the total number of Muslims) is not the right way to go about.

The majority are radical, but only a minority are actual terrorists. Drop the PC charade.
 
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Says the marxist who see's religion as a direct competitor with his ideology (which is its own religion). :2wave:

Isn't that more communists like Lenin rather than Marx? Marx said that only in a true Marxists society would there be no religion, not because it was forbidden or something like that, religion would have disappeared because people no longer need religion as something to "drug" them into meek compliance.
 
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The majority are radical, but only a minority are actual terrorists. Drop the PC charade.

No PC charade but reality. Most Muslims do not support these kinds of idiotic terrorist crimes.
 
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It is a religion. Islam is a religion, the government of Islamic nations tend to intertwine religion and government.

Read a book.

The religion spread violently and established its own islamic govt where it went. Why dont you know these basic facts?
 
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There absolutely was. It was called Manifest Destiny, a philosophy that this land belonged not to the Indians, but to the settlers, and that taking that land by any and all means was their God given right.

That isn't genocide. Try again.
 
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Isn't that more communists like Lenin rather than Marx? Marx said that only in a true Marxists society would there be no religion, not because it was forbidden or something like that, religion would have disappeared because people no longer need religion as something to "drug" them into meek compliance.

Marxism (here) implies anyone who adheres to tenets of marxism, that includes many leftists of which communists are just one example. Whats the islam situation there?
 
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It is a religion. Islam is a religion, the government of Islamic nations tend to intertwine religion and government.

Read a book.

Islam is more political than religious. You have erred.
 
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Says the guy who doesn't miss an occasion to talk about black on black crime when a thread is about police brutality. ;)

Not true. I talk about police brutality...in threads that are actually ABOUT police brutality. That's an apples to oranges comparison. Muslims vs fundament it's Muslims. Black lives 'matter' when there is a cop or a white guy involved vs black lives matter always.
 
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Like the GOP and the Tea-party?

Since I have never seen either the GOP or TEA party advocate car bombings, I'd say no.
Where as a significant portion (well over a million) in France say that is acceptable.

Look at the US's most wanted domestic terrorists-its leftists and islamists-because they are the violent ones. :2wave:
 
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Marxism (here) implies anyone who adheres to tenets of marxism, that includes many leftists of which communists are just one example. Whats the islam situation there?

Well, then you use the name of Marx falsely. Marx would never agree with communism and a lot of leftists do not want Marx in their society.

The Islam situation? That differs on the person you ask. If you ask a follower of Geert Wilders you may get the darkest possible answer and a lot of more liberal people will say that one has to make a distinction between extremists and normal Muslims.

A leading social democrat said today:

Dutch people who sympathize with the perpetrators, for god's sake, pack your suitcase and leave. Maybe there is a place in the world where you feel more at home. Don't go murdering innocent journalists, that is incredibly despicable. Leave the Netherlands if you do not feel at home here.

And if you cannot agree with humorists making a newspaper, well....if I may be so free: Piss Off and leave".

He also called the attack: "indescribable form of barbarism, of backwardness."
 
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Says the marxist who see's religion as a direct competitor with his ideology (which is its own religion). :2wave:

Hitchens, not a marxist. I'd ask you to read up, but you won't, ignorance suits you.
 
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Hitchens, not a marxist. I'd ask you to read up, but you won't, ignorance suits you.

Hitchens was a marxist, you really should do some reading.
In 2006, in a town hall meeting in Pennsylvania debating the Jewish Tradition with Martin Amis, Hitchens commented on his political philosophy by stating, "I am no longer a socialist, but I still am a Marxist".[12] In a June 2010 interview with The New York Times, he stated that "I still think like a Marxist in many ways. I think the materialist conception of history is valid. I consider myself a very conservative Marxist".[13]
Political views of Christopher Hitchens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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