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Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

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The reason it is so low in the US NOW is because of our laws, which keep the Christian nutters from doing the same.

No, the fact that laws exist prohibiting murder in no way prevent Christian extremists from going on similar rampages. Likewise, the fact that murders in the US are often caught has no bearing on why Christian rampagers are so rare. The simple fact is that religous rampagers tend to ignore laws they dont like and do not really care if they are caught by the police.

There are millions of conservative Christians in this nation, almost all of whom have easy access to weapons. Yet rampages by Christians are very, very rare. The reason why is there are key differences between how Islam and Christianity are currently interpreted and practiced:

- Christian nutters do not get affirmed by conservative Christians
- Christian nutters cant draw on alot of direct and indirect support from the Christian community
- The vast, overwhelming majority of Christian religous lkeaders renounce violence. A significant number of Islamic ones endorse it
Millions of blacks died under slavery, and thousands more were lynched in the South, much of it in the name of Christianity.

No, the lynchings were not done in the name of Christianity- well not counting the Salem witch trials. Rather, 3,000 black and about 1,000 whites were lynched because they had violated secular social norms, or were accused of committing various secular crimes. In short, very few of the lynchers were religously motivated. In almost all cases, the perpetrators and the victims were of the same religion.
You seek to stain a whole race of people with what extremists do.
Muslim is not a "race". Rather, Muslims can be of any race.
 
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A Dutch cartoonist (Joep Bertrands) responds to the attack on Charlie Hebdo with the text "Immortal" beneath it.
 
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Unfortunate. While I do not condone the attack or defend the actors involved, that this magazine continued to taunt people it knew would be coming after them hardly gives them clean hands in the events. My best to the survivors and sympathies to the family of the fallen officer.
Probably the dumbest comment I have read about this so far.

Nobody has dirty hands here except the murderers who carried this out.
 
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Probably the dumbest comment I have read about this so far.

Nobody has dirty hands here except the murderers who carried this out.

Bingo. No one needs to apologize for exercising free speech.
 
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Unfortunate. While I do not condone the attack or defend the actors involved, that this magazine continued to taunt people it knew would be coming after them hardly gives them clean hands in the events. My best to the survivors and sympathies to the family of the fallen officer.

I believe you are the leading candidate for this year's Neville Chamberlain Award.
 
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Bingo. No one needs to apologize for exercising free speech.
It is baffling at times why there are people out there who, no matter how heinous the acts of Muslim extremists, will somehow manage to provide them with a small measure of cover for their actions.

I swear they could target a children's hospital and you would still see a small little disclaimer somewhere about how one of the doctors who worked there donated 5 bucks to AIPAC in 1974 or something.:roll:
 
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To be honest I'm not an expert on the history of multiculturalism in Europe but I'm a bit of an expert on Islam.Diversity and multicultiralism is the main reason why Mideast is a ****hole,it's the worst thing that can happen to a Muslim community.

Not much diversity within the ME.
How have you arrived at that conclusion?
 
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Well you wouldnt have had these radical elements if France and the rest of the West hadnt screwed up their countries of origin in the first place.

What a dumb thing to say. The reason they left their country of origin is because Islamic countries are pretty much uniformly disasters. They got their 'freedom' from the evil western imperialists and promptly started killing everybody that didn't believe exactly the same way they did. They've screwed up their own countries without much assistance from anybody in the West. In fact, the only time they were peaceful is when the evil imperialists controlled them.
 
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It is baffling at times why there are people out there who, no matter how heinous the acts of Muslim extremists, will somehow manage to provide them with a small measure of cover for their actions.

I swear they could target a children's hospital and you would still see a small little disclaimer somewhere about how one of the doctors who worked there donated 5 bucks to AIPAC in 1974 or something.:roll:

It's always the fault of the evil democracies.
 
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Millions of Muslims in France, a few cause these murders, and the answer is deport them all is the answer.
Right.
 
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And who's largely at fault for that? Not just the leftists. The left did not make oil and cheap labor more important than human rights. The left did not hitch themselves so deep into the pockets of the people who have lengthened the dark ages.

Don't get me wrong, left wing politics have also not solved this problem (and to some degree have made it worse too) but you cannot solve centuries of religious domination and undemocratic rule in one generation.

No, but you sure as hell ought to be able to keep it out of your own country.
 
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Well you wouldnt have had these radical elements if France and the rest of the West hadnt screwed up their countries of origin in the first place.
You don't think their countries of origin weren't screwed up in the first place?
Globalization brought the radical islam countries to the world.
 
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A family saw their loved one in the police gunned down on a sidewalk because the magazine staff intentionally inflamed tensions instead of showing some responsibility and restraint. Freedoms are meaningless if people do not exercise those rights responsibly. It isn't like they did not know they were feeding hate while hiding behind those police officers forced to protect them. Is your life worth a cartoon being published?

Maybe one of the worst things ever posted on this forum. And that's saying a lot.
 
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You don't think their countries of origin weren't screwed up in the first place?
Globalization brought the radical islam countries to the world.

And the radicals are reacting in anger and fear at the world which is slowly encroaching upon them.
 
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And the radicals are reacting in anger and fear at the world which is slowly encroaching upon them.

Really? You live a 3rd world state, the first state wide Detroit in the making...

Saying the trust makes us "radicals"?
 
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Really? You live a 3rd world state, the first state wide Detroit in the making...

Saying the trust makes us "radicals"?

The radicals are the ones who resort to terrorism and violence to oppose the effects of globalization. In other words: the terrorists responsible for this attack.
 
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The radicals are the ones who resort to terrorism and violence to oppose the effects of globalization. In other words: the terrorists responsible for this attack.

Globalization only made plain the centuries of Islamic decay and decline that are the root causes of rage in the Islamic world.
 
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Your point is that the attackers in France aren't mentally disturbed.

So they were acting without mental issues? Is mass murder a rational thing to you, US Conservative?

Most mass murders are committed by entirely sane people. In short, in all probability, Timothy McVeigh, Osama Ben Ladin and these guys could easily pass sanity tests.

Even more telling are indications that this attack was not impulsive (perhaps suggestive of insanity), but carefully planned and also carried out by trained attackers. Evidently, the attackers hit the target quickly with not only overwhleming gunfire, but also accurate gun fire. They then retreated according to a plan.
 
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The reactionaries are out in force in this thread, let alone the world at large. Luckily most are more bark than bite.
 
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Millions of Muslims in France, a few cause these murders, and the answer is deport them all is the answer.
Right.

I have not seen anyone other than complete morons advocate the deportation of all Muslims. It's unrealistic and it isn't going to happen.
 
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The reactionaries are out in force in this thread, let alone the world at large. Luckily most are more bark than bite.

What, in your view, constitutes a "reactionary" response to the Paris murders?
 
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The reactionaries are out in force in this thread, let alone the world at large. Luckily most are more bark than bite.

Really? i really do hope that men in your nation take it back, because the future of English people is oh so bleak..
 
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What, in your view, constitutes a "reactionary" response to the Paris murders?

Telling the truth and calling to an end of the death cult of multiculturalism and mass immigration into the West..
 
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I have not seen anyone other than complete morons advocate the deportation of all Muslims. It's unrealistic and it isn't going to happen.

I agree
When one posts Multiculturalism is the cause, why accept them is posted.
Then deportation is the next step is it not?
Or just freezing immigration from Muslim countries?
 
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Well you wouldnt have had these radical elements if France and the rest of the West hadnt screwed up their countries of origin in the first place.

I suppose everyone needs a defense lawyer and for the assassins on this forum one of them is you.

BTW, what country are the assassins from - since you OBVIOUSLY claim that you know?
 
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