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Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

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Nuke 'em all and let Allah sort them out.

As long as someone else does the dirty work of killing, you can claim clean hands right?
Oh yeah, you Military guys & gals, go over there and killem all. Yes some of you will die but my hands are clean ya know.
 
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Is it true that the police arrived on bicycles carrying night sticks? And that the police that were there also only had night sticks? That is absolutely insane.
 
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As long as someone else does the dirty work of killing, you can claim clean hands right?
Oh yeah, you Military guys & gals, go over there and killem all. Yes some of you will die but my hands are clean ya know.
There are rough people who get paid to do that sort of thing and find a great deal of satisfaction in it. Just let them go and watch them work.
 
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Is it true that the police arrived on bicycles carrying night sticks? And that the police that were there also only had night sticks? That is absolutely insane.

They had day sticks since it occurred during the day. Big difference.
 
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There are rough people who get paid to do that sort of thing and find a great deal of satisfaction in it. Just let them go and watch them work.

I know a number of ex soldiers, yet to meet one that enjoyed killing.
 
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They had day sticks since it occurred during the day. Big difference.

At least they were not carrying guns, as we know, those are dangerous and someone could have gotten hurt. Very smart, those French leftists.
 
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I know a number of ex soldiers, yet to meet one that enjoyed killing.
The satisfaction is in their work. Killing is only a part of that, but an important part. It is a matter of self defense both for these soldiers and the country, the laws and the culture they are sworn to protect.
 
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The satisfaction is in their work. Killing is only a part of that, but an important part. It is a matter of self defense both for these soldiers and the country, the laws and the culture they are sworn to protect.

First you mentioned satisfaction- I understand that was referring to killing. Yet you side step my point.
 
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I wasnt commenting on that, I was using the statement I bolded to prove a point.

And do you believe that all Muslims are enemies of the US? Including American citizens? If so, thanks for proving my point again.

I think that is the way to bet. Yes, people like you have conclusively proven that American citizens can be enemies of the nation. So why not someone who has recently come here?

Thanks for proving my point. We do not need any more internal enemies. We have plenty. They call themselves Progressives, Liberals, Libertarian - Left, Socialists...
 
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First you mentioned satisfaction- I understand that was referring to killing. Yet you side step my point.
No, I elaborated on what I first said, giving it the proper context. You are right that few soldiers enjoy killing, though they also understand that is part of their job. And nowhere did I say they enjoy killing anyway.
 
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No, I elaborated on what I first said, giving it the proper context. You are right that few soldiers enjoy killing, though they also understand that is part of their job. And nowhere did I say they enjoy killing anyway.

I took satisfaction to enjoy killing, if I was in error, I will apologize. A small number may, but they are xxxxx. The post as to what a Soldiers duties entail is one I agree with.
 
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At least they were not carrying guns, as we know, those are dangerous and someone could have gotten hurt. Very smart, those French leftists.

Yeah. As it happens, I was in Nairobi, Kenya on the very morning police were first allowed to carry fire arms. A Kenyan policeman emptied his revolver into the back of a fleeing street thief early that day. I was heading into the interior, so I never heard the follow up story, but I imagine that street thieves took notice.
 
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Lately? None. Historically? Plenty.

And there are those that exist today, just in smaller numbers. Like the OK City bomber, like abortion clinic bombers....

Today there are more moderate Christians and we've managed to keep our govt. mostly secular. Islam is in a great state of disruption, internally as well as externally.

I dont make excuses for the terrorists anymore than I excuse the OK City bomber or perpetrators of the Inquisition. I just recognize that they are NOT the voice of ALL their religion and I dont paint them all with the same brush.

It makes me ill to think that anyone could possibly think all Christians are like the pathetic mutts of the Westboro Church. I wont do that to all Muslims.

McVeigh did not bomb the FBI building for religious reasons. In fact, he was not particularly religious and claimed to be agnostic.

Try again.
 
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As long as someone else does the dirty work of killing, you can claim clean hands right?
Oh yeah, you Military guys & gals, go over there and killem all. Yes some of you will die but my hands are clean ya know.

You don't know where I've been putting my hands. LOL!
 
I used the word "we". What do you make of it then?

I am looking forward to an opportunity to go and sign in that black book. I guess what I make of it is: Glad they made the opportunity to do that.

Dardania's main Imam also condemned the terrorist act.
 
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Seems some mainstream french islamicists are supportive of the attacks.


Muslim Cleric Defends Paris Terrorist Attack | CNS News

LOL, I have been avoiding this debate but this one is soooo funny.

1.) He aint french.. he is British, born and bred.

Anjem Choudary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


2.) He is a well known radical going back decades. He in fact is accused of being the inspiration for the 7/7 bombers if I am not mistaken. The Brits have been trying to get him convicted of terror many times but have found it more than hard.... does not help that he is a lawyer of course.

3.) He has zero credibility and in no way represents Islam in any form and cant even really be called an Iman. He has been condemned many times by Islamic leaders in the UK for his words and action. Last I looked it up, he did not even have a mosque to preach from because no mosque would allow it.
 
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mbig said:
I'm talking about/Showing the FACT this is DAILY behavior for Muslims/Islamists.
How many do you think Christian (or Buddhist) "extremists" have Killed this week, month, Year?

I'm "talking about" the Fact your post was an Absurd/Horrendous attempt at Moral Equivalence that does NOT exist.
Rank Apologism.
Untrue.

A Christian Fundamentalist is a Missionary, a Muslim Fundamentalist Kills him.
(New avatar in Honor of the deceased)
mbig said:
OTE=mbig;1064120204]Yup PCers et al, "it's just like Christianity" and those 'Radicals' like Pat Robertson!
Holy Cow, an MSM outlet was so un-PC as to count!

BBC News - Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
10 December 2014

Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
Jihadist attacks killed more than 5,000 people in just One month, an investigation by the BBC World Service and King's College London has found.

Civilians bore the brunt of the violence, with more than 2,000 killed in reported jihadist incidents during November 2014. Islamic State carried out the most attacks, adding to the spiralling death toll in Iraq and Syria. Explore the map to find out more.

The data gathered by the BBC found that 5,042 people were killed in 664 jihadist attacks across 14 Countries - a daily average of 168 deaths, or 7 Every Hour.
1. Dishonest Strawman. I did NOT say "Christians are always victims and never killers".
Though that IS true 95% of the time in re Name of Religion/Islam violence.
There won't be any rebuttal to that (either), you need the STRAWMAN "never".
near identical to the Most common strawman, Pretending someone said "ALL Muslims are terrorists."

2. So you got ONE story (CAR) repeated 3 T!mes, and another 'here' about a dozen Cultists who NEVER HURT a fly!
LOFL

That was comparable to what I posted/you 'responded' to?
5042 People dead of Jihad in 14 Countries in JUST the month of November 2014?

Thousands of people die EVERY Month in DOZENS of Countries in the Name of Islam.

From Mauritania to Mindinao it's a Long BLOODY line.
And not too pretty in Mumbai or Malmo either.

As to "here", of course we've stopped More than FIFTY Islamic plots from 9/11 thru 2011 Alone.
50 Terror Attacks Foiled Since 9/11
And others are just plain dead, as Ft Hood.

3. The point again is, it is NOT remotely comparable.
The Amount of Violence committed in the name of Islam, is Exponentially greater than by anyone else.
Go ahead, try Strawman-ing me with the irrelevant/Disingenuous "never" or "all" again.
Rank Apologism​
 
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I am looking forward to an opportunity to go and sign in that black book. I guess what I make of it is: Glad they made the opportunity to do that.

Dardania's main Imam also condemned the terrorist act.
They do that after every attack. The problem is that these dicks are doing nothing before the next attack.
 
France isn't part of the United States. The terrorist attack occurred in Paris.

Read your own laws about blasphemy before supporting that magazine.
 
Different countries and regions have their own traditions, customs, values, rules, etc. I am not arguing or suggesting that Western principles be adopted universally, much less imposed. I am suggesting that others need to understand that the West cannot reasonably be expected to transform itself into something it isn't. Hence, even as I find some content tasteless or worse, in the West, I respect creative freedom. I reject the notion that the individuals be censored or harmed. Those who would seek, for example, to harm content creators so should be resisted and held fully accountable for their actions. Needless to say, those who object to given content enjoy the freedom to speak out against it and to let their views be known, but they cannot seek to harm or incite others to harm those whose works they find objectionable. Reasoned persuasion is fair game. Threats, intimidation, or harm are not. That's the tradition that emerged, particularly after the Glorious Revolution and it is a fundamental aspect of Western Society. Over the course of time, that freedom has been a source of strength. IMO, that freedom in the West should not be compromised.

The diversity of cultures and their customs and traditions is terrific and enriching for us all.

I would like to think that killing people because you don’t like what they draw or write is universally understood by adults as “disproportionate.” If it isn’t, however, then I’m all for strongly encouraging this “Western” view.

You are so right; the free speech that is a fundamental part of “Western” society is a tremendous source of strength, one that cannot be compromised, particularly out of fear. Appeasement is never enough.
 
The diversity of cultures and their customs and traditions is terrific and enriching for us all.

I would like to think that killing people because you don’t like what they draw or write is universally understood by adults as “disproportionate.” If it isn’t, however, then I’m all for strongly encouraging this “Western” view. You are so right; the free speech that is a fundamental part of “Western” society is a tremendous source of strength, one that cannot be compromised, particularly out of fear. Appeasement is never enough.
That 'strength' is rapidly disappearing when media shows themselves to be cowards. http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/s...-charlie-hebdos-satirical-cartoons#.bv8LVDqv7 The idea of 'Free Speech' is still there in our imaginations but is no longer a reality.
 
Read your own laws about blasphemy before supporting that magazine.

There are no laws against blasphemy in the United States. We are a civilized nation.
 
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