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Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

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" Do you always side so readily with this nation's enemies?"
Pretty much the exact words of the terrorists.

As for numbers? Historically the Muslims are still catching up to Christians but yes, currently they are more active.
You should have simply said, "Yes, Misterveritis. I always readily side with this nation's enemies. It is what I do."
 
Ha, have you been in any of the threads on same sex marriage? Believe me, many American Christians, including the ones spouting about 'justifiable rape' are still in the Dark Ages.
Is attacking Christians intended to justify or excuse Muslim backwardness and barbarity? What's your point?

Are you saying that Islam is more tolerant of same sex marriage? Or Gays? And on a thread where Muslims have murdered, or injured, over 20 people for no sane reason at al?

Really, Lursa. What is your point?
 
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Are you in the military? Have you been?

There are plenty of moderate Muslims, esp. in the US. No different than any other American. (And they are Americans).

The extremists of Islam are no different than the extremist Christians that insist on basing their perspective on the Old Testament...a very harmful and even violent leaning. Most Muslims and most Christians are not like that in the US.

Really? How many Christians have flown jet aircraft into buildings in the name of Jesus? How many Christian suicide bombers can you name? How many cartoonists and journalists and aide workers have been murdered by Christian extremists?
 
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Of course, your posts do relate to Africa, so there is a much bigger issue going on there.

However, I found this interesting paragraph in one of your links.


The seeds were sown in March last year when the Seleka, a largely Muslim rebel group, seized Bangui in a coup, installed the country's first Muslim president, Michel Djotodia, and terrorised the majority Christian population, killing men, women and children.​
These people tend to read the headlines. It happens all the time.
 
Is attacking Christians intended to justify or excuse Muslim backwardness and barbarity? What's your point?

Are you saying that Islam is more tolerant of same sex marriage? Or Gays? And on a thread where Muslims have murdered, or injured, over 20 people for no sane reason at al?

Really, Lursa. What is your point?

He has no point, other than to convince the rest of us that Christian 'extremists' are just as dangerous to everybody as the Mohammed worshipping variety of folk. I think he's going to fail.
 
That should stop Islamic terrorism in its tracks.

Funny,

But just to be sure: The intent of the post was not to demonstrate a method to stop Islamic Terrorism dead in its tracks.
 
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Saudi Arabia knows this, this is why they support and fund the only real sources of education in the poorer regions of Afghanistan, the madrasses. And why we have also targeted those as places to reach out and try and educate. Those places offer young men (no women allowed) the only way out of poverty. They are indoctrinated at an early age.
They also fund in the US and Canada, Eastern Europe. No Imam trained in the Wahabi version should be permitted entry.
Those here, when their Visa is up, no extensions.
Then you have the 28 pages redacted from the 911 report. Rumors abound that Saudi Officials in the US and Saudi were involved.
Both Bush and Obama have refused to release these documents.
a | New York Post pair of lawmakers who recently read the redacted portion say they are “absolutely shocked” at the level of foreign state involvement in the attacks.
Reps. Walter Jones (R-NC) and Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.) can’t reveal the nation identified by it without violating federal law. So they’ve proposed Congress pass a resolution asking President Obama to declassify the entire 2002 report, “Joint Inquiry Into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001.”
Some information already has leaked from the classified section, which is based on both CIA and FBI documents, and it points back to Saudi Arabia, a presumed ally.
The Saudis deny any role in 9/11, but the CIA in one memo reportedly found “incontrovertible evidence” that Saudi government officials — not just wealthy Saudi hardliners, but high-level diplomats and intelligence officers employed by the kingdom — helped the hijackers both financially and logistically. The intelligence files cited in the report directly implicate the Saudi embassy in Washington and consulate in Los Angeles in the attacks, making 9/11 not just an act of terrorism, but an act of war.
 
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In my view, the trick to defeating this kind of crap is two fold: Muslims around the world must openly denounce this stuff and clerics must excommunicate the violent fundamentalists.
That's not going to happen which is why Islamism, accompanied by the usual barbarity, is growing.

Secondly, how victim countries react to this stuff will guide the likely hood of further attacks: for instance, when the French have a labor strike, the entire country shuts down... Therefore, if the entire country gets involved in flushing this crap out and dealing with it: extreme prejudice is recommended (not for the average person), and if France launches against ISIS et al, then France can become a place where such fundamentalists are afraid to operate. The key is to make THEM afraid.
Sounds eerily right wing.

The Left, btw, is against even incarcerating known terrorists and their American leader even releases the most dangerous among them. I say make them afraid by offing them as soon as they intercept any plans by Islamists involving a terrorist act. The innocent Muslims will not have the lives interrupted or face the wrath of the terrorists, or the public. It is a war, declared by the Islamists, and the democracies have to understand that.
 
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" Do you always side so readily with this nation's enemies?"

You should have simply said, "Yes, Misterveritis. I always readily side with this nation's enemies. It is what I do."

I wasnt commenting on that, I was using the statement I bolded to prove a point.

And do you believe that all Muslims are enemies of the US? Including American citizens? If so, thanks for proving my point again.
 
Funny, But just to be sure: The intent of the post was not to demonstrate a method to stop Islamic Terrorism dead in its tracks.
So it is just a gesture. What are we to make of it?
 
Is attacking Christians intended to justify or excuse Muslim backwardness and barbarity? What's your point?

Are you saying that Islam is more tolerant of same sex marriage? Or Gays? And on a thread where Muslims have murdered, or injured, over 20 people for no sane reason at al?

Really, Lursa. What is your point?

This is what I was responding to and I even bolded the part in particular that it applied to:

And what was the response of Christians? Nothing!

Christians know and understand that tolerance is the cornerstone of any democracy and, in fact, were most influential in creating the modern democracies. Muslims consider democracy anathema to Islam.

The same applies to most Muslims. They are not extremists. And I pointed out that Christianity has plenty of intolerant, ignorant members in the US.
 
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Of course. It's just so integrated in the US that they forget.

Blue Laws anyone?

Blue laws are violent? What the **** are you talking about?
 
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Really? How many Christians have flown jet aircraft into buildings in the name of Jesus? How many Christian suicide bombers can you name? How many cartoonists and journalists and aide workers have been murdered by Christian extremists?

Lately? None. Historically? Plenty.

And there are those that exist today, just in smaller numbers. Like the OK City bomber, like abortion clinic bombers....

Today there are more moderate Christians and we've managed to keep our govt. mostly secular. Islam is in a great state of disruption, internally as well as externally.

I dont make excuses for the terrorists anymore than I excuse the OK City bomber or perpetrators of the Inquisition. I just recognize that they are NOT the voice of ALL their religion and I dont paint them all with the same brush.

It makes me ill to think that anyone could possibly think all Christians are like the pathetic mutts of the Westboro Church. I wont do that to all Muslims.
 
He has no point, other than to convince the rest of us that Christian 'extremists' are just as dangerous to everybody as the Mohammed worshipping variety of folk. I think he's going to fail.

LOL "He?"

Nice attempt at a drive-by.....FAIL.
 
He has no point, other than to convince the rest of us that Christian 'extremists' are just as dangerous to everybody as the Mohammed worshipping variety of folk. I think he's going to fail.
It is desperation. They will mention Christianity as being the equivalent of Islam (of course that's false) but these were not Christians who were murdered in Paris, nor did Christianity figure in why they were murdered. But that's the way they want to try and justify these murders.

Calling these people ignorant may seem rude but what other euphemisms are available which will properly capture this most recent act of terrorism and the response of the apologists?
 
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Bottom line: How much of this will we tolerate before we are willing to take the kind of actions necessary to eliminate this element from the planet?

They've gone full Medieval. It will take the same to defeat them.
 
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I dont make excuses for the terrorists anymore than I excuse the OK City bomber or perpetrators of the Inquisition. I just recognize that they are NOT the voice of ALL their religion and I dont paint them all with the same brush.

It makes me ill to think that anyone could possibly think all Christians are like the pathetic mutts of the Westboro Church. I wont do that to all Muslims.

The difference is, there is a vastly higher percentage of Muslims that sympathize and support these radicals than what you see in the Christian faith.

I've heard figures at around 30 percent.
 
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Context is your friend.

We're talking about a violent terror attack on civilians. What possible context could mentioning blue laws have?
 
This is what I was responding to and I even bolded the part in particular that it applied to:Christians know and understand that tolerance is the cornerstone of any democracy.

The same applies to most Muslims. They are not extremists. And I pointed out that Christianity has plenty of intolerant, ignorant members in the US.
No, it does not. Muslims have not founded any democracy and have instead fought against it. The only democracies Muslims have enjoyed is when they have entered one in the west, and soon wish to destroy it. Yes, there are ignorant people to varying degrees everywhere but it is Islam which is identified with the Third World and third world thinking. They pretty much have a lock on large scale ignorance.

You compare "Blue Laws" in the US with anything in Islam???
 
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Bottom line: How much of this will we tolerate before we are willing to take the kind of actions necessary to eliminate this element from the planet?

They've gone full Medieval. It will take the same to defeat them.

Nuke 'em all and let Allah sort them out.
 
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