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Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

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This woman said she let them in.....she had the code.


Young mother let terrorists into Charlie Hebdo building after threat against daughter.....

Corinne Rey, a cartoonist for the weekly newspaper Charlie Hebdo, says she was forced to enter the security code after returning from picking up her child at daycare, according to a local report. “I just went to get my daughter from daycare. As I got to the front door of the building, two masked, armed gunmen brutally threatened us,” she told L'Humanité. “They wanted to enter, go up. I typed the code.”

The terrorists, claiming to be with al-Qaida, spoke fluent, unaccented French, according to Rey......snip~

Young mother let terrorists into Charlie Hebdo building after threat against daughter

I've been waiting for something like this.

I've always known that airports, jets, nuclear power plants, etc etc will never be completely safe as long as terrorists can hold family members hostage. And here we go....:(
 
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Multiculturalism has blown up in Europe's face, and many of these once great countries are becoming unrecognizable.

We have a division of our company in England, and my colleagues there tell me it is all people talk the British discuss these days.

A day of reckoning, one way or the other, is coming. France and Spain are next. Turkey already went quietly into Islamic control.

Wow! Paranoia runs deep in some circles it would appear.

Turkey has been a Muslim country since the day Constantinople became Istanbul.
 
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Would you consider the Islamists 'right wing' then? They seem to be supported so often by Leftists that it seems unlikely. In fact anyone who speaks out against the Islamists is called "extreme right wing'.

Do left wingers fit in anywhere?

Oh the fundamentalists are heavily right-wing. No different than racist nazis. Leftists are not supporting the fundamentalists. Their concern is aimed more at the innocent bystanders in all of this and trying to expose and quell the western "Actions" that have contributed to the western attacks. The evidence of such
western "actions" is overwhelming, but that strays form our discussion. This latest BS is because this "jihad" is completely out of control - and well connected and supported, so it;s easy for these rats to act.

In my view, the trick to defeating this kind of crap is two fold: Muslims around the world must openly denounce this stuff and clerics must excommunicate the violent fundamentalists. Secondly, how victim countries react to this stuff will guide the likely hood of further attacks: for instance, when the French have a labor strike, the entire country shuts down... Therefore, if the entire country gets involved in flushing this crap out and dealing with it: extreme prejudice is recommended (not for the average person), and if France launches against ISIS et al, then France can become a place where such fundamentalists are afraid to operate. The key is to make THEM afraid.
 
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1. I could never kill someone because they offended my beliefs and I don't speak for or feel obligated to defend some God who apparently can't defend Himself.
2. I love pulled pork sandwiches.
3. I use toilet paper.

I never said I would raise a hand to anyone. I just don't care if the French wipe them out. Not my circus. Not my monkeys.

I have no patience with them or the people that silently support them.
And that is how religious wars begin. With that thinking.
Men, women, children, kill them all.
You would have other people commit mass slaughter for you.

And you wonder why there is a problem
 
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Here i will try to give you some insight, from someone who lives in Istanbul - TR..

First of all, western civilization needs to be very careful about the threat they are facing now, and they will face in the future.

Trust me when i tell you, these Islam terror will be condemned by all the Muslims, and muslim countries but they deep inside they don't feel much about it.. Freedom of speech, freedom, democracy or equal rights they don't really care or understand anything about these concepts.

This is why exactly the civilization you have built over there is in grave danger. Given power, they will do everything they can, to impose anything on you. Without power, they will keep playing the democracy and equality card all the way they can do it.

So here is my humble advice, Islam is fed by the uneducated. You will never be able to reason with them.

You must, and i mean "MUST" focus on educating this population for logical thinking. And also make sure they are people who can integrate to your country's social life.

Else get rid of them, if they can't be educated or integrated get rid of them real quick.. Or believe me when i tell you that soon you will fcked and won't even know what hit you..

Good Luck..

Saudi Arabia knows this, this is why they support and fund the only real sources of education in the poorer regions of Afghanistan, the madrasses. And why we have also targeted those as places to reach out and try and educate. Those places offer young men (no women allowed) the only way out of poverty. They are indoctrinated at an early age.
 
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Well, are we sure this wasn't "workplace violence", or a "man made contingency"???

Yes.
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That happens on a regular basis here. Every time there is a thread based on the attrocities of Fundamentalist Extremist Muslims, people trip over themselves shrieking "but the Christians!!! but the Christians!!!"

Every time.

Probably because it's true and people need to be reminded every time.
 
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I'm talking about/Showing the FACT this is DAILY behavior for Muslims/Islamists.
How many do you think Christian (or Buddhist) "extremists" have Killed this week, month, Year?

I'm "talking about" the Fact your post was an Absurd/Horrendous attempt at Moral Equivalence that does NOT exist.
Rank Apologism.
Untrue.

A Christian Fundamentalist is a Missionary, a Muslim Fundamentalist Kills him.


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Ah! Moral equivalence!

Then I am definitely in the right. We all know such Christians exist. There are a bunch in this thread proving it. They would wipe out all Muslims if they could. And justify it the same way that the current Islamic terrorists.

And we can still have it. But we do need to utterly rid ourselves of this scourge. Do you always side so readily with this nation's enemies?

Pretty much the exact words of the terrorists.

As for numbers? Historically the Muslims are still catching up to Christians but yes, currently they are more active.
 
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Another weak attempt at equivocation. Who saw that coming?

There is strength in truth. Your disagreement doenst change that.
 
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A melting pot implies assimilation, this is an untossed salad, with one group killing others because they dont like the freedoms of that nation.

Yes but also the addition of new ideas and strengths. They dont just integrate and disappear. The generations that came here in the 1800s certainly didnt. They brought their cultures with them.
 
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The majority are radical, but only a minority are actual terrorists. Drop the PC charade.

The majority of Muslims in America are radical? Is that what you are implying?

If so, it's obviously totally wrong. They are integrated everywhere in our society.

Perhaps that is why you have no clue about them.

If that was not the intent of your response, sorry.
 
Wow! Paranoia runs deep in some circles it would appear.

Turkey has been a Muslim country since the day Constantinople became Istanbul.

I can't believe how you twist it.I'm speechless.
 
It did nothing wrong under French Law. I would be offended if I am a muslim.

So? You arent in the US.

There's no right here not to be offended. It's called 'if you dont like it, turn away.' Be an adult and shrug off an insult that others have a right to toss out, right or wrong.
 
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I'm talking about/Showing the FACT this is DAILY behavior for Muslims/Islamists.
How many do you think Christian (or Buddhist) "extremists" have Killed this week, month, Year?

I'm "talking about" the Fact your post was an Absurd/Horrendous attempt at Moral Equivalence that does NOT exist.
Rank Apologism.
Untrue.

A Christian Fundamentalist is a Missionary, a Muslim Fundamentalist Kills him.


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Yeah, "True" Christians are always victims and never killers


Tens of thousands of Muslims flee Christian militias in Central African Republic - The Washington Post

Christian Militia Could Wipe Out Central African Republic's Muslim Population, Says Human Rights Group

Christian militias take bloody revenge on Muslims in Central African Republic | World news | The Guardian

These stories are from 2014 but those stories are only from Africa, it's not like that would happen in America - amirite?
Radical Right Wing Christians Who Supported the Iraq War Want to Convert, Deport and Kill Muslims
 
Free expression demolishing a religion has no place in Asia.

Different countries and regions have their own traditions, customs, values, rules, etc. I am not arguing or suggesting that Western principles be adopted universally, much less imposed. I am suggesting that others need to understand that the West cannot reasonably be expected to transform itself into something it isn't. Hence, even as I find some content tasteless or worse, in the West, I respect creative freedom. I reject the notion that the individuals be censored or harmed. Those who would seek, for example, to harm content creators so should be resisted and held fully accountable for their actions. Needless to say, those who object to given content enjoy the freedom to speak out against it and to let their views be known, but they cannot seek to harm or incite others to harm those whose works they find objectionable. Reasoned persuasion is fair game. Threats, intimidation, or harm are not. That's the tradition that emerged, particularly after the Glorious Revolution and it is a fundamental aspect of Western Society. Over the course of time, that freedom has been a source of strength. IMO, that freedom in the West should not be compromised.
 
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You have just described virtually all major religions. Almost all religions mix politics with religion anytime they are allowed to do so. The difference is the Islam in practice is more violent.

Of course. It's just so integrated in the US that they forget.

Blue Laws anyone?
 
If you don't know what freedom of speech means you better avoid using the term.
Just a small advice.

Few of us here in the US will agree with RDS but he is politely showing us an example of what people in other regions DO think.

I dont agree but I dont dismiss what he's saying. It's stupid to deny opposing views, that just leads to underestimating your opponents.

Just a general statement, not only directed at you Apocalypse.
 
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Of course, your posts do relate to Africa, so there is a much bigger issue going on there.

However, I found this interesting paragraph in one of your links.


The seeds were sown in March last year when the Seleka, a largely Muslim rebel group, seized Bangui in a coup, installed the country's first Muslim president, Michel Djotodia, and terrorised the majority Christian population, killing men, women and children.​
 
And what was the response of Christians? Nothing!

Christians know and understand that tolerance is the cornerstone of any democracy and, in fact, were most influential in creating the modern democracies. Muslims consider democracy anathema to Islam.

Ha, have you been in any of the threads on same sex marriage? Believe me, many American Christians, including the ones spouting about 'justifiable rape' are still in the Dark Ages.
 
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I dislike Islam immensely, but a right is a right, if they come and preach and shout allahuh ak****whatever those inferior religious sayings are, so long as they do not break the law and harm others, they are free to do so.

Absolutely, 100% free to do so.

Not a tihng you can do, not a thing I can do, not a thing we can do.

I understand that Islam has a history of intertwining itself with the politics of the ME and still does so to an unparalleled degree, that was not the original point I made when addressing spartan, that was a made up point from a certain fool who decided to misquote people (which this fool has a bad habit of doing).

Stop inviting them to come here. Spy upon the ones who are here under visas. When the visa expires do not extend it. And boot them out of the country. If they support terrorist organizations boot them out.

There is plenty we can do. But we lack the will. Your attitude typifies it.
 
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