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Charlie Hebdo Shooting: 12 Killed at Muhammad Cartoons Magazine in Paris[w:157,1217]

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This simply has nothing to do with any of the wars waged in Muslim countries by the West.
The newspaper was attacked, probably by Muslim immigrants to France, for posting a picture that they didn't like.
They didn't attack it because of France's involvement in the war on terror.
Take this bullcrap elsewhere.

Not the wars, at least not the recent ones. The ones where the UK esp. went in and chopped up fiefdoms and kingdoms artificially and not along traditional & tribal lines. Placing people and religions not "yet" compatible in situations where they were in conflict. For their own best, Western interests. By no means in the best interests of the local inhabitants.
 
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I suppose everyone needs a defense lawyer and for the assassins on this forum one of them is you.

BTW, what country are the assassins from - since you OBVIOUSLY claim that you know?

According to an early report, one of the survivors said the murderers speaking "good French" claimed to be with al Qaeda of Yemen.
 
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this is one of the threads the super-ignorant come to give their "all religion is bad" speeches, with a very short sighted explanation(if any) to back it up. you are just trying to make the situation fit your foolish argument. crazy people(like the ones who did this sick act) can turn religion into something bad, i agree. but to blame religion itself is absurd. The guy who shot Reagan became infatuated with an actress, then went out and tried to kill people in HER name. Should she take some of the blame for the deadly act? of course not.

get over it already.

Some guy named Salman Rushdie blames religion for the attack

Religion, a mediaeval form of unreason, when combined with modern weaponry becomes a real threat to our freedoms. This religious totalitarianism has caused a deadly mutation in the heart of Islam and we see the tragic consequences in Paris today. I stand with Charlie Hebdo, as we all must, to defend the art of satire, which has always been a force for liberty and against tyranny, dishonesty and stupidity. ‘Respect for religion’ has become a code phrase meaning ‘fear of religion.’ Religions, like all other ideas, deserve criticism, satire, and, yes, our fearless disrespect.
 
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Exclude? maybe not, deny entry of course.

Free societies should not import cultures and peoples that bring about their destruction.

Self and cultural preservation is a mandate for Freedom and Liberty.

LOL

Better check the dictionary for the definition of 'free.'
 
also, this office building had already been targeted by these islamic nutjobs(someone tried to burn it down). how they didn't sense they were in danger is beyond me. they KNEW they were poking the bear. I would have been very concerned before the attack if one of my loved ones worked at that office. and as brave a front as the French are putting up, I guarantee you won't see anyone in print making fun of "you know who" over there any more.

The two police officers killed were guarding the offices of Charlie Hebdo. I'm surprised that some of our forum members who believe guns stop crimes haven't weighed in on this matter.
 
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it was the leftist of the 60s that open the floodgates as to import new welfare voters, and anyone who said no or opposed it was a "racist".

A whole area of the world that is a warning of what Diversity and Multiculturalism will archive if left unchecked.

Yeah, that whole 'melting pot' **** and freedom of religion crap is a crock anyway. Who needs it?
 
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Torqemada would disagree with you here. He was responsible for the slaughter of many thousands of Jews and non-believers in the Middle Ages. He, of course, represented the Catholic Church.

Translation: "B-b-but the Middle Ages, MAN!!"
 
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So you would allow the Ebola infected man into your home?

It is a great comparison, you are changing the subject because your answer will make you look crazy.

Ebola and Islam are infections, only Islam has a higher body count.
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It's only a 'great comparison' if you are admitting that you cannot resist conversion to Islam. You can be infected by disease against your will...converted to a new belief against your will? Only if you are weak-minded.
 
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Okay a question Eh
So the west stops immigration from Muslim countries.
What about the millions that live in countries from the US, Canada to the EU?
What about them eh?
I am Canadian so Eh is sometimes mandatory in a sentence, Eh.
 
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"Religion Poisons Everything"
 
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Yes they should be, will they? No...

You can not spread freedom but you can contain tyranny.

Of course you can spread freedom. Look at the Civil War. Look at South Africa. Look at the former USSR.

But it's done more by education & the law than the sword.
 
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I LOVE the arguement you just posted...that all religions to date, have their extremists.

So let's do some math, shall we?

Cite for us the amount killed in the name of Allah by suicide bombings, beheadings, kidnappings...etc in just the past 10 years.

Then, cite for us the amount killed in the name of Jesus Christ in the past 50 years.

Also, cite the frequency... the result? Islam, contemporary islam, is nothing but terror. Thank you for replying!


Torqemada would disagree with you here. He was responsible for the slaughter of many thousands of Jews and non-believers in the Middle Ages. He, of course, represented the Catholic Church.

Translation: "B-b-but the Middle Ages, MAN!!"

Bill Donahue, head of the Catholic League, blames the editor of Charlie Hebdo for the murders
MUSLIMS ARE RIGHT TO BE ANGRY

Killing in response to insult, no matter how gross, must be unequivocally condemned. That is why what happened in Paris cannot be tolerated. But neither should we tolerate the kind of intolerance that provoked this violent reaction.

Those who work at this newspaper have a long and disgusting record of going way beyond the mere lampooning of public figures, and this is especially true of their depictions of religious figures. For example, they have shown nuns masturbating and popes wearing condoms. They have also shown Muhammad in pornographic poses.

While some Muslims today object to any depiction of the Prophet, others do not. Moreover, visual representations of him are not proscribed by the Koran. What unites Muslims in their anger against Charlie Hebdo is the vulgar manner in which Muhammad has been portrayed. What they object to is being intentionally insulted over the course of many years. On this aspect, I am in total agreement with them.

Stephane Charbonnier, the paper’s publisher, was killed today in the slaughter. It is too bad that he didn’t understand the role he played in his tragic death. In 2012, when asked why he insults Muslims, he said, “Muhammad isn’t sacred to me.” Had he not been so narcissistic, he may still be alive.

Any bets on how quickly this screed will be removed from the Catholic League's website?
 
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I LOVE the arguement you just posted...that all religions to date, have their extremists.

So let's do some math, shall we?

Cite for us the amount killed in the name of Allah by suicide bombings, beheadings, kidnappings...etc in just the past 10 years.

Then, cite for us the amount killed in the name of Jesus Christ in the past 50 years.

Also, cite the frequency... the result? Islam, contemporary islam, is nothing but terror. Thank you for replying!

contemporary Islam is nothing but terror really? every Muslim alive is a terrorist now? this is bull ****

come on man condemning religious extremist is well and good but demonizing innocent people is wrong

what the hell?
 
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Unfortunate. While I do not condone the attack or defend the actors involved, that this magazine continued to taunt people it knew would be coming after them hardly gives them clean hands in the events. My best to the survivors and sympathies to the family of the fallen officer.

Would you say the same about Sony releasing the interview after NK supposedly threatened the US?
 
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Bill Donahue, head of the Catholic League, blames the editor of Charlie Hebdo for the murders

Any bets on how quickly this screed will be removed from the Catholic League's website?

First, Bill Donahue was in agreement with the Muslim people who objected to the cartoons, not the murderers.

Second, the fact that Bill Donahue is arguing on a blog rather than gunning down the staff of CHARLIE HEDBDO should be a clue...
 
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contemporary Islam is nothing but terror really? every Muslim alive is a terrorist now? this is bull ****

come on man condemning religious extremist is well and good but demonizing innocent people is wrong

what the hell?

I wouldn't condemn all Muslims, per se. The danger in Islam, however, is that those beheading and gunning down innocent people are in fact in line with the teachings of their religion. It's the peaceful Muslims that are off-book.
 
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Are you in the military? Have you been?

There are plenty of moderate Muslims, esp. in the US. No different than any other American. (And they are Americans).

The extremists of Islam are No Different than the Extremist Christians that insist on basing their perspective on the Old Testament
...a very harmful and even violent leaning. Most Muslims and most Christians are not like that in the US.
Ahh, the usual apologist NONSENSE:

Yup PCers et al, "it's just like Christianity" and those 'Radicals' like Pat Robertson!

BBC News - Jihadism: Tracking a Month of deadly attacks
10 December 2014

Jihadism: Tracking a Month of deadly attacks
Jihadist attacks killed more than 5,000 people in just One month, an investigation by the BBC World Service and King's College London has found.

Civilians bore the brunt of the violence, with more than 2,000 killed in reported jihadist incidents during November 2014. Islamic State carried out the most attacks, adding to the spiralling death toll in Iraq and Syria. Explore the map to find out more.

The data gathered by the BBC found that 5,042 people were killed in 664 jihadist attacks across 14 Countries - a Daily average of 168 Deaths, or 7 Every Hour.

About 80% of the deaths came in just four countries - Iraq, Nigeria, Syria and Afghanistan, according to the study of media and civil society reports..."​

Yeah, Every time someone makes fun of Jesus/Yahweh/Buddah, scores of people die!

Lemme guess, this also "Has Nothing to do with Islam"
 
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So why allow in a culture that does this?

Yeah, we see how well that worked out for the Jews in Europe. Hitler and the Germans decided that certain citizens had a culture they didnt like....

Personally I do not hope to see the US go the way of Nazism and am pretty confident that our Constitution will provide the basis to prevent it.
 
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It would hurt my feelings none if the French went all gonzo vigilante on Islam.

Call the Orkin man.
 
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It would hurt my feelings none if the French went all gonzo vigilante on Islam.

Call the Orkin man.

exterminating vigilantes sounds about right if their just going after Muslims for being Muslim
 
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You're equating free speech with yelling "Fire!" and blaming the victims here. I can't agree that the world should appease those who are offended by religious satire. Yes, the magazine was known for making light of the Prophet. What you're saying is that they asked for it--that they dared and invited this attack. I guess they did, but the problem is not what they did; it's how these terrorists responded.

It's like blaming a woman in a bikini for getting raped.
 
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