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Police chief's anti-racism sign lauded, criticized[W:81]

CanadaJohn said:
Irrespective of the worthiness of the sentiment, how tone deaf is it for a "new" police chief to hold up a sign that implies there's a racism problem with the police force he now leads?
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It's only "tone deaf" if the tone is being set by anti-Black racists.
 
Redress said:
No, that is not spin. That is the English language. Note the lack of the words "all my officers" on the sign. That means that it does not say "all my officers". See how language works?
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Don't get dizzy.
 
AGENT J said:
:lamo
nobody educated, honest and objective would ever take such a mentally retarded, inane and severely dishonest statement seriously
we thank you for the laugh
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Per the Libbo SOP, when one is unable to form an intelligent argument, he, or she, feels compelled to resort to insults.

This comes as no surprise to anyone.
 
apdst said:
Per the Libbo SOP, when one is unable to form an intelligent argument, he, or she, feels compelled to resort to insults.

This comes as no surprise to anyone.
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weird can you point out where you were insulted? oh thats right i never insulted you lol
another failed strawman just like the false claim of suggesting he suggested that all his officers are racists.
if you disagree in your next post simply support the false claim, using facts, where he suggested all his officers are racists, thanks

both your strawmen fail and facts win again
 
The police chief declaring he his going to use his position a lead a race war against white people is bizarre and dangerous.
 
apdst said:
No one is having a fit. We're just pointing out this guy's blatant stupidity.

There's no way a leader can command respect, when his first public act is to besmirch the character of the people under his charge.
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You're the only one that thinks this Police Chief is stupid. How can it be possible to hold an anti-rascism
sign as a symbol that the police are rascist. This guy holds a sign that says Pittsburgh police are anti rascist.
The Police Unions seem to be run by an Al Sharpton imitator seeking a cause. He can just keep piling it higher
and deeper, just like Al.
 
AGENT J said:
weird can you point out where you were insulted?
another failed strawman just like the false claim of suggesting he suggested that all his officers are racists.
your posts fails and facts win again
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You're right, the facts do win. Here are McLay's own words...

The reality of U.S. policing is that our enforcement efforts have a disparate impact on communities of color. This is a statistical fact. You know, as well as I, the social factors driving this reality. The gross disparity in wealth and opportunity is evident in our city. Frustration and disorder are certain to follow. The predominant patterns of our city's increased violence involves black victims as well as actors. If we are to address this violence, we must work together with our communities of color.


We, the Pittsburgh Bureau of Police, need to acknowledge how this reality feels to those impacted communities. Crime and disorder take us to the disadvantaged communities, which are predominantly those of color. The disparities in police arrest and incarceration rates that follow are not by design, but they can feel that way to some people in those communities.

Pittsburgh Police Chief Responds To Criticism After Posing With An
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Good luck insulting your way out.
 
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DaveFagan said:
You're the only one that thinks this Police Chief is stupid. How can it be possible to hold an anti-rascism
sign as a symbol that the police are rascist. This guy holds a sign that says Pittsburgh police are anti rascist.
The Police Unions seem to be run by an Al Sharpton imitator seeking a cause. He can just keep piling it higher
and deeper, just like Al.
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Because the dude said so. Refer to post #34
 
ThePlayDrive said:
I was with you until the bold. When White people violently protest and loot, it is rarely, if ever, viewed as a statement about White people, in general. Even further, despite the fact that the vast majority of Black people do not commit violence and loot in addition to the fact that Black "leaders" continue to publicly denounce both, Black people are still viewed as as "troublemakers" as a whole. Therefore, Black people denouncing violence and looting is not what is going to change the culture of institutional racism since Black people have been doing that for decades to no avail. What will change this culture is the first thing you mentioned : White people holding each other accountable.
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I just feel as if black people perpetuating stereotypes is not doing anything to help there cause. I do not doubt that whites loot and are violent, but unfortunately, that is not the stereotype. No matter how you look at it, blacks who play into the preconceived notions of society are only hurting the cause to strike out institutional racism.
 
apdst said:
1.)You're right, the facta do win. Here are McLay's own words...
2.)Good luck insulting your way out.
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1.) 100% correct, i know your assumption about the sign was mentally retarded "assumption"
2.) again never insulted you the first time that lie failed just like the lie about the sign. ALso THANK YOU you for posting his own words further showing that the assumption you made was a dishonest and mentally inane one.

You just proved your own post to be completely false and wrong.

facts win again
 
AGENT J said:
1.) 100% correct, i know your assumption about the sign was mentally retarded "assumption"
2.) again never insulted you the first time that lie failed just like the lie about the sign. ALso THANK YOU you for posting his own words further showing that the assumption you made was a dishonest and mentally inane one.

You just proved your own post to be completely false and wrong.

facts win again
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More insults. You're doing a great job of proving me right.

Who are the racists that McLay was talking about when he said that blacks folks are "arrested at a disparate rate"?
 
apdst said:
Don't get dizzy.
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I am not. In addition, I managed to read and comprehend what the sign said, something you are struggling with.
 
joko104 said:
The police chief declaring he his going to use his position a lead a race war against white people is bizarre and dangerous.
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Wait, what? Who did this? Can you link to a source for this claim?
 
Redress said:
I am not. In addition, I managed to read and comprehend what the sign said, something you are struggling with.
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You see what you want to see. Has McLay yet to say that he wasn't refering to his officers? He had that chance and didn't take it. Why not?

Who was he blaming for the high arrest rate in the black community? Was he blaming black folks?
 
Redress said:
No, that is not spin. That is the English language. Note the lack of the words "all my officers" on the sign. That means that it does not say "all my officers". See how language works?
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It does suggest that racism is some large problem in his police force. If my boss was all, "I resolve to challenge racism amongst my employees", I'd resent the implication that it's such a rampant problem.
 
apdst said:
You see what you want to see. Has McLay yet to say that he wasn't refering to his officers? He had that chance and didn't take it. Why not?
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So now you want him to specifically state that he was not referencing something that he did not in any way say and if he doesn't it means he did say it? That is some ****ed up logic there. Since you have yet to deny you are a 500 pound asian woman, should we assume that you really are?

Who was he blaming for the high arrest rate in the black community?
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He was not commenting on the subject. You can tell because the sign he held said jack **** about it.

Was he blaming black folks?
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No, nor white folks, nor Asian folks, nor Hispanic folks, nor any one. Read the words on the sign and you won't have to ask stupid questions. Hint: if the words are not blaming any one, that means they are not blaming any one. This should not be hard.
 
X Factor said:
It does suggest that racism is some large problem in his police force. If my boss was all, "I resolve to challenge racism amongst my employees", I'd resent the implication that it's such a rampant problem.
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No, really it does not say that nor mean it, nor imply it. It simply means that where encountered, he will challenge it.
 
Redress said:
No, really it does not say that nor mean it, nor imply it. It simply means that where encountered, he will challenge it.
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Not true. He specified at work and who does he work with? You cannot look at this in a vacuum. This is, of course, a response to all the allegations of racist cops, recently, and this sign will be viewed as an admission. I bet his rank and file will see this as a betrayal and I really can't blame them. The implication is clear.
 
Redress said:
So now you want him to specifically state that he was not referencing something that he did not in any way say and if he doesn't it means he did say it? That is some ****ed up logic there. Since you have yet to deny you are a 500 pound asian woman, should we assume that you really are?



He was not commenting on the subject. You can tell because the sign he held said jack **** about it.



No, nor white folks, nor Asian folks, nor Hispanic folks, nor any one. Read the words on the sign and you won't have to ask stupid questions. Hint: if the words are not blaming any one, that means they are not blaming any one. This should not be hard.
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For him to not be referencing something, which everyone but you believes he's referencing, he will need to admit he isn't referencing it.

Cover for him some more, now.
 
X Factor said:
Not true. He specified at work and who does he work with? You cannot look at this in a vacuum. This is, of course, a response to all the allegations of racist cops, recently, and this sign will be viewed as an admission. I bet his rank and file will see this as a betrayal and I really can't blame them. The implication is clear.
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Correct, at work is specified. That does not mean he will encounter it alot, or regularly, or that every one is racist, or anything else. Simply that when he does encounter it, he will challenge it. When you have to assume he means stuff, because it fits the narrative you want to build, you are creating a dishonest, integrityless argument. How about actually discussing what the sign does say, instead of what you wish it said so you be all outraged.
 
apdst said:
For him to not be referencing something, which everyone but you believes he's referencing, he will need to admit he isn't referencing it.

Cover for him some more, now.
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Not every one believes that. People who can read English know what the sign does say. Hint: it isn't what you are claiming.
 
apdst said:
1.)More insults.
2.)You're doing a great job of proving me right.
3.)Who are the racists that McLay was talking about when he said that blacks folks are "arrested at a disparate rate"?
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1.) ZERO insults, if you disagree please quote me insulting you, you will fail it will be a made up false unsupportable assumption
2.) except for that FACTS keep destroying your posts and proving them wrong
3.) translation: he didnt suggested all his officers are racists, thanks thats what we thought and thank you for again proving your own posts wrong

if you disagree AGAIN simply point out where he suggested all his officers are racists, we are waiting
I bet you dodge it again

facts win again
 
Redress said:
Not every one believes that. People who can read English know what the sign does say. Hint: it isn't what you are claiming.
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Everyone, whose thinking isn't clouded with partisan propaganda, knows what he means.
 
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