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Pit bull shot by Lee County deputy

The owner of the dog was a dog owner, yes. What kind if question is that supposed to be?

I was implying that you dont know much about dogs since you seem surprised that a dog might slip out the door to run out to do its job of protecting.
 
I was implying that you dont know much about dogs since you seem surprised that a dog might slip out the door to run out to do its job of protecting.
I own a Shepard/Husky mix that is trained, and goes nuts when people come on "his" property. If they come to the door, I put him in the mud room and shut the door before I answer the front door. That is how a responsible dog owner reacts. Given that scenerio, I would have done the same, or leashed it before stepping outside to see what was happening.
 
I was implying that you dont know much about dogs since you seem surprised that a dog might slip out the door to run out to do its job of protecting.
Sucks for you, then, that I've owned many pets. That's why I know about keeping them under control, a concept you can't seem to understand.
 
I own a Shepard/Husky mix that is trained, and goes nuts when people come on "his" property. If they come to the door, I put him in the mud room and shut the door before I answer the front door. That is how a responsible dog owner reacts. Given that scenerio, I would have done the same, or leashed it before stepping outside to see what was happening.

Well of course he should have done something different otherwise his dog would not have ran out the door to play with the police dog and got shot. But officers should know that the general public are a bunch of morons. And should have taken the moron factor in account. It is the responsibility of the canine unit to assess a situation and stop things like morons who let their dog run out the door.
 
Sometimes **** happens.
Yup, and when it does you don't have any more time to 'notify' people than the cop did before the perp ran. **** happens, and now that you know **** happens, try to anticipate what **** is more likely to happen to you, like your dog getting out, and take steps to prevent it.
 
Yup, and when it does you don't have any more time to 'notify' people than the cop did before the perp ran. **** happens, and now that you know **** happens, try to anticipate what **** is more likely to happen to you, like your dog getting out, and take steps to prevent it.

Seems simple to me, if you dont want a police dog to get in a fight with a dog on private property then do your job what you were trained to do in such situations. Dont go ape **** and shoot a dog to break up a dogfight. The homeowner was stupid and that can be expected, but the officer has no excuse. Which is my point, that the police are required to be on top of things. These guys simply were not on top of things. They let a suspect get away because they didnt anticipate what could go wrong. They same scenario could have happened with a stray dog or loose dog. And everyone knows that there are a lot of strays or loose dogs out there. I am pretty sure that proper procedure isnt to just shoot any dog that get near the police dog.
 
Seems simple to me, if you dont want a police dog to get in a fight with a dog on private property then do your job what you were trained to do in such situations. Dont go ape **** and shoot a dog to break up a dogfight. The homeowner was stupid and that can be expected, but the officer has no excuse. Which is my point, that the police are required to be on top of things. These guys simply were not on top of things. They let a suspect get away because they didnt anticipate what could go wrong. They same scenario could have happened with a stray dog or loose dog. And everyone knows that there are a lot of strays or loose dogs out there. I am pretty sure that proper procedure isnt to just shoot any dog that get near the police dog.

If.

But police dogs are looking for a fight. That's what they're for. That's why they're used. To fight and to win, even if it's handler has to shoot it's opponant.

I like that you mention streys because a local snake and feral dog problem is why I began carrying a gun.

I've been looking into falconry recently, I wonder if raptors can be trained to go after strays.
 
Well of course he should have done something different otherwise his dog would not have ran out the door to play with the police dog and got shot. But officers should know that the general public are a bunch of morons. And should have taken the moron factor in account. It is the responsibility of the canine unit to assess a situation and stop things like morons who let their dog run out the door.

They did...You just seem to not like their decision.
 
If.

But police dogs are looking for a fight. That's what they're for. That's why they're used. To fight and to win, even if it's handler has to shoot it's opponant.

I like that you mention streys because a local snake and feral dog problem is why I began carrying a gun.

I've been looking into falconry recently, I wonder if raptors can be trained to go after strays.

That would be awesome! I want video....
 
The officers were yelling at the owner to stay back then the dog ran out 3 seconds later the dog was shot. There was zero opportunity to stop the fight by the owner. Of course the idiot should have been paying attention to his damn dog, had he been then his dog wouldnt have been shot. Either way though since there wasnt a description of the suspect released it shows that the pursuit was never important enough for the k9 unit to be running around on private property in the first place.

My point is that all of this was unnecessary use of force. The officers should have drove around until the suspect was on the street somewhere, or just gave up the pursuit because it wasnt worth risking the lives of officers and their police dog over a guy that ran away because he had a bike at night with no light. I am guessing that the officers involved probably got a talking to by their chief. it should be a big embarrassment for the k9 officer that he let this situation happen. There seemed to have been plenty officers hanging around enough that one could go to the door and make sure no one comes out and that no dogs come out. They seriously need to train these officers better.

That private property was right next to the place where the suspect was stopped, in fact where he ran toward.
 
That private property was right next to the place where the suspect was stopped, in fact where he ran toward.

Yes and so while they were waiting for the k9 unit to show up they could have informed the homeowners not to come outside or let any pets outside.
 
Yes and so while they were waiting for the k9 unit to show up they could have informed the homeowners not to come outside or let any pets outside.

Probably happened, since the owner says they talked to police before the incident and knew that there was a suspect in the area. That puts the blame on them, the owners for allowing their dog to get out rather than securing the dog inside properly.
 
Their decision was incompetent since it was the main factor in their botched search for the suspect that caused their failure.

That's your opinion....Now tell us your expertise in Law Enforcement?
 
If.

But police dogs are looking for a fight. That's what they're for. That's why they're used. To fight and to win, even if it's handler has to shoot it's opponant.

I like that you mention streys because a local snake and feral dog problem is why I began carrying a gun.

I've been looking into falconry recently, I wonder if raptors can be trained to go after strays.

“Your mission is clear cut and well defined. The set of philosophies you develop in order to achieve that mission will determine whether you make a beneficial contribution to the role police dogs play in modern law enforcement or whether you become a liability which undermines the good work of many men before you.” - Bruce Jackson, Pierce County Sheriff’s Department, Washington Home
 
Probably happened, since the owner says they talked to police before the incident and knew that there was a suspect in the area. That puts the blame on them, the owners for allowing their dog to get out rather than securing the dog inside properly.

Probably, but you dont really know do you? Lets for the sake of argument say that the owner was warned to keep their pet inside beforehand. That doesnt excuse the shooting. it just means that the owner didnt follow direct orders from law enforcement. The article says nothing of the homeowners being charged with a crime. The article also doesnt say that the police dog was severely hurt. It just says that the police dog was fine. If the police dog was injured you can bet that there would be charges against the homeowner.
 
Probably, but you dont really know do you? Lets for the sake of argument say that the owner was warned to keep their pet inside beforehand. That doesnt excuse the shooting. it just means that the owner didnt follow direct orders from law enforcement. The article says nothing of the homeowners being charged with a crime. The article also doesnt say that the police dog was severely hurt. It just says that the police dog was fine. If the police dog was injured you can bet that there would be charges against the homeowner.

It would justify the shooting. The police dog was doing its duty, and the other dog interfered with that duty. The police dog should not have been attacked to begin with. The police dog should not have to face or take serious injury just to justify ending the attack against it.
 
I have as much as you can prove here in this debate. But thanks for your opinion.

Ok, so I'll take that to mean none...I don't have any either, other than one of my best friends in Maryland was a State Trooper....So, assuming you have none (because you wouldn't outline it) what makes you think that your opinion means anything at all relating to fact.????
 
It would justify the shooting. The police dog was doing its duty, and the other dog interfered with that duty. The police dog should not have been attacked to begin with. The police dog should not have to face or take serious injury just to justify ending the attack against it.

It is unclear if the police dog was attacked or if the police dog did the attacking. BTW a well trained dog will not fight regardless unless given a command.
 
Ok, so I'll take that to mean none...I don't have any either, other than one of my best friends in Maryland was a State Trooper....So, assuming you have none (because you wouldn't outline it) what makes you think that your opinion means anything at all relating to fact.????

Funny angle for a debate you got going there. But you are right all of these debates on this site are meaningless so what is your point? That in this one thread it makes a damn difference? Hell I could lie to you tell you that I was a retired cop or studied law or countless other lies. I have cops for friends but that also doesnt make me a authority. What it comes down to is can you argue against my claims? Not throwing out your opinion I am not qualified to have a opinion on the subject. If you dont want debate just stop replying. If you think that I have done something wrong report me. Thats about the only way that you could shut me up, which usually is the point in trying to disqualify a debater.
 
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