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With eye on 2016, Jeb Bush resigns from all boards

I think we have an incredibly difficult electoral map to navigate in 2016 regardless of the candidate. But I haven't read anything that leads me to believe Bush would negatively affect that map in a meaningful way anymore than a similar candidate like Christie would.

As Pero has pointed out, a Jeb/Kasich ticket would put the GOP in strong position to take both Florida and Ohio.
 
You know, Pero, I read somewhere recently that not only are the voters mostly ignored by both Houses of Congress - until election time when they suddenly remember us again - we don't even really elect the President, the Electoral College does! Isn't it sad that all we're needed for is our tax money - they give gold-diggers a bad name! :mrgreen: I understand why the compromise was made way back when - they were afraid the voters might elect a bumpkin that would make America look bad in the eyes of the world if it was left entirely to them - but I've got news for them! Their plan didn't turn out to be foolproof either and I have history on my side as proof! :lamo:

I was an elector for Ross Perot back in 1996 for Georgia. He didn't win Georgia so I never got to cast my one electoral vote for him. What you do when you vote is you're actually voting for a slate of electors, not the presidential candidates themselves. This being a nation of several states, it is each state votes for the president. How each state determines their electors was left to the individual states. There is no requirement for you to vote, your state legislatures could decide whom to cast Ohio's electoral votes if they so wished.

In fact as late as 1860 the South Carolina state legislature decided whom to cast that states electoral votes for. Not the people. As for being ignored by congress, that is because each party pushes their agenda until they need the peoples votes and then they start to listen to them. But only until after the election and then it is back to the parties agenda.
 
Really? Another Bush, possibly another Clinton? What has happened to this great nation? Is this the best out of all the people in this country we can do? Or are we just subjects to a ruling class elite who could give a **** about you or me?


Sad reality is, there are those cheering for these royals and thier race for power.

I think the brits got it right. have royalty and then have your government. I totally think this nation is in awe of royalty which is the way we treat hollywood celebs and apparently we want some kind of bloodline ties in our leadership. It's kind of gross.
 
I think the brits got it right. have royalty and then have your government. I totally think this nation is in awe of royalty which is the way we treat hollywood celebs and apparently we want some kind of bloodline ties in our leadership. It's kind of gross.



When that royal couple or whoever came to nyc, they swooned, reporters and cameramen had to wear slacks and shoes, etc. I would have thrown ****ing tomatoes.
 
I think we have an incredibly difficult electoral map to navigate in 2016 regardless of the candidate. But I haven't read anything that leads me to believe Bush would negatively affect that map in a meaningful way anymore than a similar candidate like Christie would.
Either of those will get beat.
 
I think the odds are against us regardless of the candidate but they certainly have a better chance than most of the alternatives.

If Repub Congressional leadership performs well then the Repubs may be surprisingly strong in the POTUS race.
 
McCain won the 2008 nomination fair and square, and would have made a fine POTUS.

He would have made a better president then Obama...however I disagree that he would have made a fine POTUS. I think the liberals in both parties would have owned him.
 
Right. Or Governor John Kasich of Ohio. Someone outside Washington with proven governing experience.

State governors do tend to make better presidents. I like Walker because he has proven that he can take on the labor unions and liberals and win.
 
Apparently at this early date having a last name of Bush or Clinton is more of a help than a hindrance. The ideology of these two is something the Republicans and Democrats will have to decide on as far as the nominations are concerned. I am more into the numbers aspect of it, especially the electoral college side of things.

I am hoping for a non-establishment populist conservative candidate.
 
I think on the "numbers" side of things, Demo's are absolutely praying for a Jeb Bush nomination.

They will even assist him in the open primary states. They will set up cross party voting to assist him as they did McCain in 2008.
 
I am hoping for a non-establishment populist conservative candidate.

Right now I do not know whom that would be. Christie and Bush are definitely establishment candidates if they run.
 
Right now I do not know whom that would be. Christie and Bush are definitely establishment candidates if they run.

We will have to see what shakes out. If the choice is between Jeb and Christie...my choice will be "none of the above".
 
We will have to see what shakes out. If the choice is between Jeb and Christie...my choice will be "none of the above".

As of this point in time, I do not think Christie is going anywhere.
 
no more bushes

no more clintons

if either of them had any fresh ideas they'd have expressed them by now; instead they will run on reforming the various messes that they helped create. no thanks
 
As of this point in time, I do not think Christie is going anywhere.

Except the next Cowboys game and the inaugurations of governors in the early primary states of Iowa and South Carolina.

With the GOP convention moved up three months to June, Bush's moves are actually right on time,
preempting some candidates and forcing others like Huckabee to get a move on .
 
Except the next Cowboys game and the inaugurations of governors in the early primary states of Iowa and South Carolina.

With the GOP convention moved up three months to June, Bush's moves are actually right on time,
preempting some candidates and forcing others like Huckabee to get a move on .

From an electoral college stand point, at this time Bush seems to be the candidate that would have the best showing electoral wise. I think bridgegate and perhaps a couple of other potential scandals have damaged Christie to where I do not think he could get above the 191 threshold of what I refer to as Republican trustworthy states. But it is still early.

Huckabee is like Santorum, they are just vying for face time. I do not take either seriously.
 
no more bushes

no more clintons

if either of them had any fresh ideas they'd have expressed them by now; instead they will run on reforming the various messes that they helped create. no thanks

I would say the odds right now are 9-1 Clinton will be the Democratic nominee. Bush on the other hand is iffy. Probably no better than a 20% chance as of today that he will win the Republican nomination.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination

So if Jeb and Hillary do wind up at the two major political party's nominees, whom would you vote for? In Georgia we usually have third party choices like the Libertarians, the Constitutional Party and sometimes the Green Party. Would you vote third party or not vote at all?
 
I would say the odds right now are 9-1 Clinton will be the Democratic nominee. Bush on the other hand is iffy. Probably no better than a 20% chance as of today that he will win the Republican nomination.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination

So if Jeb and Hillary do wind up at the two major political party's nominees, whom would you vote for? In Georgia we usually have third party choices like the Libertarians, the Constitutional Party and sometimes the Green Party. Would you vote third party or not vote at all?

Ours is a country of voting for the lesser of two evils, has been for a long time...Myself, I would vote for Bush, but I damned sure wouldn't like it....We have to find a way to break this progressive lurch in our society...Whether Republican, or Democrat, progressivism is killing this country.
 
Ours is a country of voting for the lesser of two evils, has been for a long time...Myself, I would vote for Bush, but I damned sure wouldn't like it....We have to find a way to break this progressive lurch in our society...Whether Republican, or Democrat, progressivism is killing this country.

Exactly, this country is in the habit of voting for the lesser of two evils or as I like to say. The least worst candidate. The problem is when voting for the least worst candidate, you still end up with a bad winner. The two major parties push the line when it comes to voting for third party candidates that it is a wasted vote, the third party candidate cannot win. But I think voting for a Republican or Democrat is a wasted vote, you are voting for business as usual regardless of that they say or the rhetoric they spout.

My beliefs have led me to vote third party in 5 of the last 6 presidential elections. Perhaps if more voters would vote for whom they like, for whom they think would make the best president. Maybe, just maybe the two major parties would offer up better candidates. But then again, I doubt it.
 
I take it you support a pool of a few families having turns as president?


It seems we can do better.

I like Jeb for president because I think after living under him as governor of Florida, he will do well. He did good here and left on a high note. Can't argue against success. Now I don't agree with all his policies as I think his school policies were just hit and miss. The choice of schools was a big hit while the common core nonsense and testing etc was a big miss.

Of course I don't care about his last name all that much. So what can I say?
 
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