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With eye on 2016, Jeb Bush resigns from all boards

Is the Bush family known for smaller government?

GW didn't do anything as far as downsize government. He did the opposite and the establishment GOP supported him all the way. The dad, I don't know much about him expect he wasn't very popular and didn't win reelection.



ReverendHellh0und said:
Call me a cynic, but voting for the lesser of two evils is why we have the government we deserve.



Jeb bush increased florida's budget by 27% during his term (that's 2009).
Supports Affirmative action
Supported the bank bailouts
Supports corporate welfare
More money for the war on drugs
Pro common core



IS this the small government replublican you all want as your guy?
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It will be interesting to see who actually enters the GOP primary debates. Even if the candidates have no chance of winning like Bachmann and Gingrich, it makes the debates entertaining.

Jeb would be a top contender.

Christi can't win, but he will probably try.

Rand Paul is better than Jeb IMO, but I have some issues with things he has said in the past. I don't expect him to win the primary either, but he probably has a better chance than Christi. I hope he actually preforms well.
 
SheWolf said:
It will be interesting to see who actually enters the GOP primary debates. Even if the candidates have no chance of winning like Bachmann and Gingrich, it makes the debates entertaining.

Jeb would be a top contender.

Christi can't win, but he will probably try.

Rand Paul is better than Jeb IMO, but I have some issues with things he has said in the past. I don't expect him to win the primary either, but he probably has a better chance than Christi. I hope he actually preforms well.
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Christie is the candidate who appeals to me most, but I suspect Jeb would be the stronger nominee. Jeb/Kasich would be powerful. I also like (obviously) Kasich, then Pence, Walker and Jindal. I doubt that Rick Perry can live down his faux pas from last time. Rand Paul would cause me to consider voting for Hillary.
 
SheWolf said:
Is the Bush family known for smaller government?

GW didn't do anything as far as downsize government. He did the opposite and the establishment GOP supported him all the way. The dad, I don't know much about him expect he wasn't very popular and didn't win reelection.
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Bush the Elder was CIA since the 50s, as were many of the people he was in business with. The Bush family history is a history of graft from Prescott on down. Read enough about them and you will easily see the connections between oil, underhanded dealings in foreign lands, the "coincidental" incidents of strife and/or the overthrow of heads of state, the incredible loss of records and files connecting various family members and various investigations and on and on.

Look at the sordid history of the entire family, including brothers W and Neal, and tell me how Jeb will be the shinning light for the nation in the Bush political dynasty. It simply amazes me that Americans would even consider continuing a political dynasty. Another Bush (or Clinton) is the best America can do??? **** that!

Americans truly have become intellectually lazy. It's documented. Both parties use America's willful stupidity to their own benefit. The GOP has already decided that Bush will be the next candidate and Americans being good little sheeple have already begun to consider his worthiness.

Democracy no longer exists in national politics and any American who believes democracy still exists suffers from insidious and deep denial.
 
Perotista said:
Apparently being related to a previous president, most Americans view that as helping them, not hurting them. This question was asked in a recent poll:

46. If Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton decide to run for president, do you think they will be
more helped or hurt by being related to previous presidents? 41% said it helps them, 30% said it doesn't, 16% Mixed feelings.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/int...ews-poll-your-2016-presidential-election-fix/
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I voted for both George HW Bush and George W Bush. However a third Bush does have dynasty written all over it. So does that carpet bagging wench Hillary Klinton. I don't personally have anything against Jeb. I just think he is too much of a RINO. Hillary....I would not trust any further then I could throw her....which would not be far considering her massive BMI.
 
Paschendale said:
Jeb Bush should have been in prison for large scale electoral tampering for the last fourteen years. You want to really talk about election fraud? Jeb Bush is the face of that crime.
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Still having trouble getting over the 2000 election, huh? If there was any cheating going on....it was by the Gore camp.
 
joko104 said:
Jeb Bush has plenty of guilt on his own. A large share of his wealth came by stealing from the government, ie taking loans, pocketing the money and then making a deal to repay 10 cents on the dollars. He is heavily into the "Miami mafia" and many of his business associates have been convicted of racketeering, fraud, real estate scams and criminal ponzy schemes. He is as corrupt as it gets.
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Break out the tin foil hats.
 
Jack Hays said:
Membership in a prominent family should be neither a qualification nor a disqualification.
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If the republican hierchey would allow the primary process to run honestly, I would agree. However that is not happening these days. The party needs to let it run and avoid endorsing or financing a specific candidate until the primaries conclude. That is why they ended up nominating an idiot in 2008. John McCain went from "could not win a primary and carrying his own suitcases" to could not lose a primary, practically overnight. Republican voters should pick the nominee....not Karl Rove.
 
Lovebug said:
J B is clearly more qualified to run a nation than B O has ever been, or HC for that matter.
No, I didn't and wouldn't vote for either, but I hope most of us are not so shallow as to vote on hype or name recognition rather than qualifications or something of substance.
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Jeb is qualified based on executive experience as a governor. I will not be voting for him, simply because he is too much of a liberal.
 
Kobie said:
What makes him "more qualified"?
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Executive experience. As a governor, he has at least ran a budget. Hussein Obama was little more then a community organizer. Hollary Klinton is not even that. Having said all that. I am not voting for Jeb or Hollery.
 
Lovebug said:
Perhaps I did not make my case. No, I do not want him as "my guy". But it is not because of his last name.
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Same here. My problem with Jeb is that he is too much into "Go along to get along". I doubt that he would fight obamacare, illegal immigration, etc.
 
SheWolf said:
It will be interesting to see who actually enters the GOP primary debates. Even if the candidates have no chance of winning like Bachmann and Gingrich, it makes the debates entertaining.

Jeb would be a top contender.

Christi can't win, but he will probably try.

Rand Paul is better than Jeb IMO, but I have some issues with things he has said in the past. I don't expect him to win the primary either, but he probably has a better chance than Christi. I hope he actually preforms well.
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I like Rand Paul, but I worry too much about the father influence. I consider his dad, Ron Paul to be a drooling nut job.
 
Jeb has the right credentials and experience to be President, however I think his last name will hurt him.
I hope the next President will be a fiscal conservative, and get our finical house in order.
I don't care much about social issues, except that the government should not limit peoples freedom.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Same here. My problem with Jeb is that he is too much into "Go along to get along". I doubt that he would fight obamacare, illegal immigration, etc.
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Yeah, I have that same concern....I swear if Jeb is the best we can come up with, we are really in bad shape. But with that said he would still be better than another minute of liberal progressive rule under a Hillary, or Warren.
 
j-mac said:
Yeah, I have that same concern....I swear if Jeb is the best we can come up with, we are really in bad shape. But with that said he would still be better than another minute of liberal progressive rule under a Hillary, or Warren.
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My hope is for someone like Scott Walker of Wisconsin.
 
ObamacareFail said:
If the republican hierchey would allow the primary process to run honestly, I would agree. However that is not happening these days. The party needs to let it run and avoid endorsing or financing a specific candidate until the primaries conclude. That is why they ended up nominating an idiot in 2008. John McCain went from "could not win a primary and carrying his own suitcases" to could not lose a primary, practically overnight. Republican voters should pick the nominee....not Karl Rove.
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McCain won the 2008 nomination fair and square, and would have made a fine POTUS.
 
ObamacareFail said:
I voted for both George HW Bush and George W Bush. However a third Bush does have dynasty written all over it. So does that carpet bagging wench Hillary Klinton. I don't personally have anything against Jeb. I just think he is too much of a RINO. Hillary....I would not trust any further then I could throw her....which would not be far considering her massive BMI.
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Apparently at this early date having a last name of Bush or Clinton is more of a help than a hindrance. The ideology of these two is something the Republicans and Democrats will have to decide on as far as the nominations are concerned. I am more into the numbers aspect of it, especially the electoral college side of things.
 
Perotista said:
Apparently at this early date having a last name of Bush or Clinton is more of a help than a hindrance. The ideology of these two is something the Republicans and Democrats will have to decide on as far as the nominations are concerned. I am more into the numbers aspect of it, especially the electoral college side of things.
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I think on the "numbers" side of things, Demo's are absolutely praying for a Jeb Bush nomination.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Really? Another Bush, possibly another Clinton? What has happened to this great nation? Is this the best out of all the people in this country we can do? Or are we just subjects to a ruling class elite who could give a **** about you or me?


Sad reality is, there are those cheering for these royals and thier race for power.
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I think both Bush and Clinton are great candidates who would make thoroughly competent Presidents, I'm also pleased that we don't have another Obama-esque candidate on the horizon. I prefer Bush or Christie to Clinton but if my party were to nominate some of the more dangerous candidates like Cruz or Paul I'd probably back Clinton.
 
j-mac said:
I think on the "numbers" side of things, Demo's are absolutely praying for a Jeb Bush nomination.
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I don't think so. If one looks at the electoral college which I divide into Democratic Trustworthy states, state that have gone Democratic in each of the last 4 presidential elections by at least 5 percentage points, that comes out to 247 electoral votes. On the Republicans side using the same criteria, they end up with 191 electoral votes. That leaves 8 states in the tossup/swing column. Florida 29, Ohio 18, North Carolina 15, Virginia 13, Colorado 9, Iowa 6, Nevada 6 and New Hampshire 4 for a total of 100 electoral votes.

Florida is a must win for the Republicans as its 29 electoral votes would put the Democratic nominee over the 270 mar by winning only that one state out of the eight. Jeb Bush can deliver Florida which would cut the Republican deficit to 247-220.
 
j-mac said:
I think on the "numbers" side of things, Demo's are absolutely praying for a Jeb Bush nomination.
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I think we have an incredibly difficult electoral map to navigate in 2016 regardless of the candidate. But I haven't read anything that leads me to believe Bush would negatively affect that map in a meaningful way anymore than a similar candidate like Christie would.
 
Perotista said:
I don't think so. If one looks at the electoral college which I divide into Democratic Trustworthy states, state that have gone Democratic in each of the last 4 presidential elections by at least 5 percentage points, that comes out to 247 electoral votes. On the Republicans side using the same criteria, they end up with 191 electoral votes. That leaves 8 states in the tossup/swing column. Florida 29, Ohio 18, North Carolina 15, Virginia 13, Colorado 9, Iowa 6, Nevada 6 and New Hampshire 4 for a total of 100 electoral votes.

Florida is a must win for the Republicans as its 29 electoral votes would put the Democratic nominee over the 270 mar by winning only that one state out of the eight. Jeb Bush can deliver Florida which would cut the Republican deficit to 247-220.
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You know, Pero, I read somewhere recently that not only are the voters mostly ignored by both Houses of Congress - until election time when they suddenly remember us again - we don't even really elect the President, the Electoral College does! Isn't it sad that all we're needed for is our tax money - they give gold-diggers a bad name! :mrgreen: I understand why the compromise was made way back when - they were afraid the voters might elect a bumpkin that would make America look bad in the eyes of the world if it was left entirely to them - but I've got news for them! Their plan didn't turn out to be foolproof either and I have history on my side as proof! :lamo:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Really? Another Bush, possibly another Clinton? What has happened to this great nation? Is this the best out of all the people in this country we can do? Or are we just subjects to a ruling class elite who could give a **** about you or me?


Sad reality is, there are those cheering for these royals and thier race for power.
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jeb bush is vastly out of line with the other members of the bush dynasty,but just his name will hurt him greatly.

sad part is even with the bush name,he could very easily win 2016,just by exploiting peoples distrust of the current party in the white house,hence why we very rarely see nowadays any party ,longer than 8 years as president.
 
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