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Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

Unrepresented said:
You're really showing your partisan hackitude if you're blaming liberals for the bureaucracy in a republican led state, performing a republican led bill, that was created by republican think tanks.
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Please. The average government employee is a crazed liberal pro-union democrat. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
 
Unrepresented said:
I don't agree with your premise that demanding urine samples of the poor is a realistic or effective solution to the multifaceted issue of poverty in America.
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You can twist around the narrative any way you want, but if every issue is society's fault, then expecting society to solve that issue may impose solutions that the object of that solution may not like. I've not seen you post anything but platitudes, so I can only surmise scenarios for a solution until you actually propose any and we can discuss them. And when it comes to truly helping people, do you not believe that it sometimes costs money?

Also, this is the last response I will give as long as you continue to lump my reply in with others.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
You can twist around the narrative any way you want, but if every issue is society's fault, then expecting society to solve that issue may impose solutions that the object of that solution may not like. I've not seen you post anything but platitudes, so I can only surmise scenarios for a solution until you actually propose any and we can discuss them. And when it comes to truly helping people, do you not believe that it sometimes costs money?

Also, this is the last response I will give as long as you continue to lump my reply in with others.
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Wasn't trying to be rude, just found multi quote to be a lot cleaner and easier.

My view as a civil liberties fan is that the government should be required to have significant barriers to demanding urine from us.

Being laid off isn't a legitimate reason for the government intrusion.

As for platitudes, they're coming fast and furious from both sides here. We're far from discussing policy.
 
soot said:
There was no reason to stop and attempt to arrest the guy.

Anyone with half a grain of sense would have seen that this guy is mentally ill and would have approached him and detained him with his medical issues in mind.
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OMFG. I lol at the ignorant irony of that statement.

Tell me, genius.... what is the difference between stopping and attempting to arrest someone.... and approaching and detaining them?



I think this is another case of....

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whysoserious said:
The highest representation of liberals on your chart has them representing 46%. That's not exactly a mind-bottling number.
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That is double the number of republicans. Furthermore, I suspect many who answered "independent" vote democrat as well. Oh and BTW, it is not my chart, it is Gallup's. :wink: Funny how you libs are more than happy to claim Gallup as your own when it suits your purpose. :roll:
 
countryboy said:
That is double the number of republicans. Furthermore, I suspect many who answered "independent" vote democrat as well. Oh and BTW, it is not my chart, it is Gallup's. :wink: Funny how you libs are more than happy to claim Gallup as your own when it suits your purpose. :roll:
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Gallup polls are fine with me. 40% of people does not represent "the average" guy.
 
countryboy said:
That is double the number of republicans. Furthermore, I suspect many who answered "independent" vote democrat as well. Oh and BTW, it is not my chart, it is Gallup's. :wink: Funny how you libs are more than happy to claim Gallup as your own when it suits your purpose. :roll:
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No one was claiming that the poll is incorrect, they're claiming your interpretation is.
 
whysoserious said:
Gallup polls are fine with me. 40% of people does not represent "the average" guy.
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Oh, so now it's 40%? A minute ago it was 46%. Wha happen? Yeah, I'd say 2 to 1 dems to repubs in the halls of bureaucracy is substantial. If it were the other way around, you would feel the same way. And you're right, 2 to 1 doesn't represent "the average guy". It represents an overwhelming majority.
 
Unrepresented said:
No one was claiming that the poll is incorrect, they're claiming your interpretation is.
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You can claim anything you want, the numbers are the numbers. And they show a 2 to 1 majority of dems in government employ.
 
countryboy said:
Oh, so now it's 40%? A minute ago it was 46%. Wha happen? Yeah, I'd say 2 to 1 dems to repubs in the halls of bureaucracy is substantial. If it were the other way around, you would feel the same way. And you're right, 2 to 1 doesn't represent "the average guy". It represents an overwhelming majority.
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It's only 2 to 1 if you lump independent in with liberal, but of course you made a rash judgment that they were all liberal so I guess that works. True scientist.
 
countryboy said:
Please. The average government employee is a crazed liberal pro-union democrat. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
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countryboy said:
You can claim anything you want, the numbers are the numbers. And they show a 2 to 1 majority of dems in government employ.
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You have not backed up your own assertion. I'm shocked.
 
whysoserious said:
It's only 2 to 1 if you lump independent in with liberal, but of course you made a rash judgment that they were all liberal so I guess that works. True scientist.
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Dude, try and pay attention. Percentage of democrats-46% Percentage of republicans-23%. Got it?
 
Unrepresented said:
You have not backed up your own assertion. I'm shocked.
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What, the "crazed liberal" part? Okay, I concede, that was somewhat hyperbolic. But as far as dems ruling the government worker arena, 2 to 1. End of story.
 
countryboy said:
What, the "crazed liberal" part? Okay, I concede, that was somewhat hyperbolic. But as far as dems ruling the government worker arena, 2 to 1. End of story.
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Do you have evidence that those 40% of employees implement partisan policies?
 
countryboy said:
But all government bureaucracy is liberal. :roll: Involve the government in anything, and it will cost more.
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countryboy said:
Lol, just another case of libs inflating the cost of something, then crying because it costs too much. :roll:
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countryboy said:
Where did I make this accusation again? Do you have a quote?
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You're arguing that democrats in state jobs have undermined the republican governor in Florida and inflated the costs of drug testing.
 
Unrepresented said:
You're arguing that democrats in state jobs have undermined the republican governor in Florida and inflated the costs of drug testing.
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Actually, I am arguing that involving the heavily democratic controlled halls of government bureaucracy in anything, costs more money. This is irrefutable. Thanks for showing my quotes say exactly that.
 
countryboy said:
Actually, I am arguing that involving the heavily democratic controlled halls of government bureaucracy in anything, costs more money. This is irrefutable. Thanks for showing my quotes say exactly that.
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46% of employees who identify as democrats does not equate to "democrat controlled."

Bureaucracies are controlled by elected officials and state law. The highest state office has been a republican for years now.
 
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