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Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead

Unrepresented said:
Think of it like the straw that broke the camel's back. That final straw wasn't particularly heavy, but if you heap enough straw on it already, you eventually have enough weight to snap its spine.
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Thank you Capt Obvious. Awesome cliché. Good job.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Thank you Capt Obvious. Awesome cliché. Good job.
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I'm trying to dumb things down, as a courtesy to our lesser intelligenced members.

I'm likely going to end up using hand gestures at some point to explain things at the rate of comprehension of the lowest common denominator.:mrgreen:
 
countryboy said:
Another case of police being attacked. But rest assured, the race baiting, cop hating, poverty pimps are not responsible in the least for stirring the pot. :roll: Thankfully, the perp was shot dead. Geez, I hope he wasn't black.

Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead | Fox News
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Wait a second, to be fair, the cops tried to serve a warrant on him, he did not seek out cops and attack them.


glad he's dead!
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Wait a second, to be fair, the cops tried to serve a warrant on him, he did not seek out cops and attack them.


glad he's dead!
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Yep, I already said in post #23 that this incident doesn't seem to be related to the other cop-hater incidents. :)
 
Unrepresented said:
I'm trying to dumb things down, as a courtesy to our lesser intelligenced members.

I'm likely going to end up using hand gestures at some point to explain things at the rate of comprehension of the lowest common denominator.:mrgreen:
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Physician, heal thyself. :wink:
 
US Conservative said:
Im gonna need to know the races of everyone involved before I can comment. ;)
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Lol, the perp appears to have been a bat**** crazy Italian. Not sure about the cops. It does appear this incident is not related to the recent spate of cop-hater attacks. The guy was just a loon.
 
countryboy said:
Another case of police being attacked. But rest assured, the race baiting, cop hating, poverty pimps are not responsible in the least for stirring the pot. :roll: Thankfully, the perp was shot dead. Geez, I hope he wasn't black.

Man tries to run over Pa. police, shot dead | Fox News
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He wasn't black. Just like the nut in Flagstaff wasn't......

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.....Flagstaff police Sgt. Margaret Bentzen said Officer Tyler Jacob Stewart, 24, was taken to Flagstaff Medical Center in critical condition Saturday after being shot in the face.

Stewart's death was announced by Flagstaff police just before 6 p.m......

.....Bentzen said based on the preliminary investigation, Stewart did not have time to return fire, "as the onslaught of rounds from the suspect were immediate and rapidly erupting."

After Stewart fell to the ground, Smith "continued to fire rapidly," Bentzen said. Smith then walked away from the immediate area and shot and killed himself.

Read more: Flagstaff mourns police officer killed on duty - CBS 5 - KPHO
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Unrepresented said:
The ten minutes of "race baiting" aren't the issue, it's the generations of abuse. You're seeing this as an isolated incident instead of seeing it in a historic perspective.
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Historic perspective ?

To be honest this whole " Killer Racist Cop " false narrative is not that old.

I don't think this issue will be around long enough to be viewed in a Historical context.

Well, maybe in the context of just how many gullible people we have living in America.

This is a " cause " without substance , hypocritical and built on misinformation, out right lies and charges of " racism ".

It won't be around for long.
 
Fenton said:
Historic perspective ?

To be honest this whole " Killer Racist Cop " false narrative is not that old.

I don't think this issue will be around long enough to be viewed in a Historical context.

Well, maybe in the context of just how many gullible people we have living in America.

This is a " cause " without substance , hypocritical and built on misinformation, out right lies and charges of " racism ".

It won't be around for long.
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Just because this extremely specific situation of "killer racist cop" is currently enjoying a revival doesn't mean that there aren't historical grievances with abuse by police in general or greater systemic inequalities.

Just because cops don't always kill people doesn't mean that sub-murder actions aren't offensive and lumped in with the cumulative internal score people tally.
 
Unrepresented said:
Just because this extremely specific situation of "killer racist cop" is currently enjoying a revival doesn't mean that there aren't historical grievances with abuse by police in general or greater systemic inequalities.

Just because cops don't always kill people doesn't mean that sub-murder actions aren't offensive and lumped in with the cumulative internal score people tally.
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What systemic inequalities?
 
Unrepresented said:
Just because this extremely specific situation of "killer racist cop" is currently enjoying a revival doesn't mean that there aren't historical grievances with abuse by police in general or greater systemic inequalities.

Just because cops don't always kill people doesn't mean that sub-murder actions aren't offensive and lumped in with the cumulative internal score people tally.
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The bolded above is your basic problem. The press takes great pains, especially as of late, to imply that race was a factor without providing anything other than a racial difference between the officer and the "victim". Of course, when the racial differences are reversed, this rarely occurs. That difference in reporting alone skews that "internal score" so much as to render it meaningless.

When a small racial subset (14%) of the population is responsible for about half of the nation's homicides, one (using that "internal score"") is not permitted to use that fact to infer that blacks, in general, are more likely murders (since that would be racist), but if less than 1% of police officers kill any (much less black) folks then it is somehow fair game (using your sacred, personal "internal score"?) to label police, in general, as more likely violent, racist killers.
 
apdst said:
What systemic inequalities?
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Here's the systemic inequality in the imprisonment:
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Here's the systemic inequality in using SWAT:
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Here's the systemic inequality in being killed by police:
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Here's the systemic inequality in household wealth, which likely contributes to the above statistics:
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ttwtt78640 said:
The bolded above is your basic problem. The press takes great pains, especially as of late, to imply that race was a factor without providing anything other than a racial difference between the officer and the "victim". Of course, when the racial differences are reversed, this rarely occurs. That difference in reporting alone skews that "internal score" so much as to render it meaningless.

When a small racial subset (14%) of the population is responsible for about half of the nation's homicides, one (using that "internal score"") is not permitted to use that fact to infer that blacks, in general, are more likely murders (since that would be racist), but if less than 1% of police officers kill any (much less black) folks then it is somehow fair game (using your sacred, personal "internal score"?) to label police, in general, as more likely violent, racist killers.
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Both statistics are self-perpetuating. Impoverished, disenfranchised groups that perceive systemic abuse will not adhere to a system that they perceive holds them in disenfranchised, abused poverty.
 
Unrepresented said:
Here's the systemic inequality in the imprisonment:
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Here's the systemic inequality in using SWAT:
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Here's the systemic inequality in being killed by police:
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Here's the systemic inequality in household wealth, which likely contributes to the above statistics:
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We all know the numbers, now tell us what about the system creates inequality.
 
Unrepresented said:
Both statistics are self-perpetuating. Impoverished, disenfranchised groups that perceive systemic abuse will not adhere to a system that they perceive holds them in disenfranchised, abused poverty.
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What abuse does the system dish out to black folks?
 
apdst said:
We all know the numbers, now tell us what about the system creates inequality.
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Inheritance laws. Public school funding. Voting access. Campaign financing. Minimum wage laws. Etc. Etc. Etc. All the typical liberal/progressive concerns.

Lack of access to opportunity are what maintains and builds on inequality that was created hundreds of years ago.
 
apdst said:
What abuse does the system dish out to black folks?
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I just posted a handful of charts showing the system abuses black people. Assuming that blacks and whites are equal genetically, and have equal opportunity in our system, the numbers should look equal.

Those numbers are grossly unequal. That's systemic abuse.
 
What? No cries for banning cars? We want to ban guns because people get shot with them but we don't want to ban cars because people get run over by them?
 
fmw said:
What? No cries for banning cars? We want to ban guns because people get shot with them but we don't want to ban cars because people get run over by them?
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False analogy. Guns exist to kill people/animals/things (for beneficial or harmful purposes is another debate). Cars are a method of transportation and without them the modern society (especially in large countries such as China, US) would be severely negatively impacted. Civilian ownership of guns therefore cannot be possibly used as an analogy to cars. The analogy is simply ridiculous and it's very tiring hearing that crap over and over again. I'm somewhat divided and mostly indifferent about gun ownership but your analogy is just absurd.

Edit: BTW the OP isn't even about gun control. How thoughtful to bring up a totally irrelevant topic.
 
Unrepresented said:
Inheritance laws. Public school funding. Voting access. Campaign financing. Minimum wage laws. Etc. Etc. Etc. All the typical liberal/progressive concerns.

Lack of access to opportunity are what maintains and builds on inequality that was created hundreds of years ago.
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There are 8 black, female millionares in the world. All of them are American. Colin Powell was secretary of state. Condelizza Rice was secretary of defense. Barack Obama is president. Eric Holder is the AG. Those facts cancel out your claims.

The fact is, black people have no fewer rights and no less access to The American Dream than anyome else. There are literally millions of black Americans who have a good job--not minimum wage--and have never been to jail, to claim that black folks can't succeed in America.
 
Proud South Korean said:
False analogy. Guns exist to kill people/animals/things (for beneficial or harmful purposes is another debate). Cars are a method of transportation and without them the modern society (especially in large countries such as China, US) would be severely negatively impacted. Civilian ownership of guns therefore cannot be possibly used as an analogy to cars. The analogy is simply ridiculous and it's very tiring hearing that crap over and over again. I'm somewhat divided and mostly indifferent about gun ownership but your analogy is just absurd.

Edit: BTW the OP isn't even about gun control. How thoughtful to bring up a totally irrelevant topic.
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What is absurd is that guns are only used to kill things. Simply not true It isn't true of cars either. Sorry, sea lawyer.
 
Unrepresented said:
I just posted a handful of charts showing the system abuses black people. Assuming that blacks and whites are equal genetically, and have equal opportunity in our system, the numbers should look equal.

Those numbers are grossly unequal. That's systemic abuse.
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The system isn't the problem, unless you're claiming that black folks are too animalistic to succeed in civilized society.
 
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