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Scalise Allegedly Spoke with White Supremacy Group [W:22, 100]

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jet57 said:
I'm glad we agree. I don't like leftists either. I don;t think that GW is a racist, I just think he's stupid as hell. Obama is no peach either, but he's not a racist neither was he born in Kenya.
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I can agree with you. I acknowledge that Obama was not born in Kenya and that he is not racist.

What I am opposed to is the contention that Scalise must be a racist because he has done "X" (address a heavily ethnocentric group). Obama has also done "X' though his apparent support of Munir Muhammad.

What I do believe is that Scalise and Obama are sympathetic to a certain extent to the broader message presented by EURO and Nations of Islam. That is why a group like EURO with a strange name (European American....) and Munir's descendancy from the Nation of Islam movement did not raise any red flags for them.

I can also acknowledge that there are far more right wing firebrand and rabble rousers in the USA than their leftist equiivelants. Radical leftists have not been able to replace themselves to a large degree. Aside from Earth First types, most leftist radicals, including Black Panthers and Nations of Islam activists are in their 60s.
 
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jet57 said:
Your source is hyperbolic at best. Politicians meet all kinds of people. The problem this Republican has is he KNEW where he was speaking and to whom. It's not like some guy wanted to have his picture taken. The right-wing is full of that sort of crap and that's the biggest problem that the Republicans have.

Here's more proof for 'ya: Tea Partiers Protest At White House: 'Hang The Lying Kenyan Traitor'
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You call TPM proof?
 
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j-mac said:
You call TPM proof?
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TPM is quite credible and often used as a resource in Journalism.
 
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faithful_servant said:
European-American Unity and Rights Organization
Now I think that Scalise (actually his staff) failed in not vetting the organization before he agreed to speak before them, but to think that he shouldn't have done so based on nothing more than their name is expecting too much.
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I disagree. The "European American rights component" should have been a red flag to Scalise that the group was strange. Duke also founded the National Association for the Advancement of White People.

Speaking to a strange group (in this case, a white ethnocentric one) does not make him a racist- anymore than Obama befriending Nations of Islam types (black ethnocentrics) automatically makes him a racist.
 
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Deuce said:
Are the rights of European-Americans under attack? Are there a lot of groups like this?
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No, and no. European Americans also known as "white" people in most circles seem have been give a godly status from some groups which make it seem like we are all racist and bringing down other groups. Even as we are trying ever harder to appeal to these circles of minorities. Maybe as minorities become the majority within the next 10-15 years, we will begin to see some type of balance between these racial groups which seem to be dominated by not "white people" but in actuality, "black people."

I'm also not so certain as to the timing of this story. Why talk about it now? 12 years later??
 
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shrubnose said:
Powerless people's racism has little effect on those that it is directed towards.
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That is not an absolute.
 
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jet57 said:
TPM is quite credible and often used as a resource in Journalism.
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Yes, because Journalism today is overly skewed to the left....TPM is a blog started by a liberal railing against Booooosssssshhhhh!
 
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shrubnose said:
Powerless people's racism has little effect on those that it is directed towards.
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Nope, this is just the failed argument that Blacks can not be racist because it has to do with wielding power...Well, that's just bunk.
 
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faithful_servant said:
???? A name like that indicates nothing racial whatsoever, so why would it trigger any curiosity? Now I can understand questioning the wisdom of accepting a speaking invitation without doing a little legwork on the group you are speaking to, but that name alone wouldn't set off any red flags for anyone. In hindsight, you can see something there since you know that it's a WP group, but without that context, that name simply sounds like any one of a number of pro-Euro/American unity groups.
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A name like David Duke is self-explanatory for anyone who had paid attention to politics in the last two decades and especially LA politics. If he didn't know the group was founded and ran by David Duke he should have known.
 
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j-mac said:
Yes, because Journalism today is overly skewed to the left....TPM is a blog started by a liberal railing against Booooosssssshhhhh!
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What did Bosch due to him...Was he Minnesota fan or a Cleveland fan that hated Miami? :)
 
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j-mac said:
Yes, because Journalism today is overly skewed to the left....TPM is a blog started by a liberal railing against Booooosssssshhhhh!
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He's an historian and he knows what he's talking about.
 
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A good clue indicating He was well aware of the group that He was speaking too is His voting record. He voted against making MLK day a national holiday. When the Louisiana House voted in 2004, 90 members were in favor and Scalise was one of the six against. He knew it was going to be voted in yet He made a point to give em the middle finger. Pretty clear how He views non whites.
 
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This story prompted me to research what it takes to get labeled as a hate group by the splc. Apparently all it takes is to be a white group that advocate the same things black groups do.
 
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smb said:
A name like David Duke is self-explanatory for anyone who had paid attention to politics in the last two decades and especially LA politics. If he didn't know the group was founded and ran by David Duke he should have known.
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Was david duke in attendance? Do you think he should google every group he speaks to?
 
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Sabanist said:
Was david duke in attendance? Do you think he should google every group he speaks to?
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It's the party of the KKK, LBJ and Robert Byrd playing politics again.
 
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Grant said:
It's the party of the KKK, LBJ and Robert Byrd playing politics again.
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Not answering? I get it
 
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Sabanist said:
Not answering? I get it
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The Democrats, the genuine party of racists, is trying to make something of this 12 year old incident. They deserve derision.
 
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Charles Krauthammer, no liberal, was quite muted on All-Star panel tonight on FOX Special Report.
As he called for Scalise to TEMPORARILY step down from leadership .
 
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jet57 said:
He's an historian and he knows what he's talking about.
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And I am sure as an Uber liberal, he would never skew his "Journalism"....
 
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Hmm...

So apparently this guy and/or his staff sucked at researching the groups he spoke to, 12 years ago or so.

Cause he/his staff are claiming he/they did not know what that group stood for at the time.
 
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