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Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

whysoserious said:
If you're going to accuse me of holding my hand out, the least you can do is give me some ****ing money.
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I'm just telling you who is handing it out. Do I need to draw a map too?
 
Cephus said:
I'm just telling you who is handing it out. Do I need to draw a map too?
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If there is free money at the end of that map, then yes. Otherwise, it'll just be a map that leads to your ****ty arguments.
 
Cephus said:
The attitudes of the left, yes. The "everyone owes me" ideology that the left has generated over the last 40 years, where holding your hand out gets you not only sympathy, but money, that's how the Democratic Party operates. Surely you knew that, right?
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nope sounds like bull ****
 
Cephus said:
Only to someone with no clue how the Democrats operate. Open your eyes for once.
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Never!...and um probably best not to think about how im reading your message with them closed just take it on faith that I am please
 
j-mac said:
Ok, so here is the question...I have noticed that peoples actions over the past 40 years or so have become more and more self centered...For instance, when I was a kid, never would you have had people going to this length to attempt to keep a store open just for themselves...

So, how about it? Are we becoming more selfish? Is this lashing out like depicted in the story a result of people feeling like they are being too tightly controlled? What say you?
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I think this is mostly in your head. I think your parents would have said the same thing about your generation, and so on, and so on. We have a tendency to tinge all of our memories with nostalgia and to hyper-focus on the worst things that are occurring at present. The world is richer, more peaceful, less crime ridden, and more advanced than it was when you were a child (or when I was a child for that matter) but we rarely stop to acknowledge that. Likewise to the question of whether or not people are becoming 'more selfish' I don't think so at all.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Funny thing - the more you try to convince people that they are entitled to their entitlements, the more convinced they get. Pretty soon, they're convinced they're entitled to your entitlements too. It's the whole principle behind wealth redistribution.
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More empty rhetoric. You guys need a new set of buzzwords or something.
 
Deuce said:
More empty rhetoric. You guys need a new set of buzzwords or something.
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The empty rhetoric was all yours. My point is based in fact. I'd love to see you try to dispute the fact that people in general feel far more entitled today than they did in the past.
 
CanadaJohn said:
The empty rhetoric was all yours. My point is based in fact. I'd love to see you try to dispute the fact that people in general feel far more entitled today than they did in the past.
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more entitled to what?
 
justabubba said:
i would want to see your proof of that
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Walk out the door and enter society on any given day. People running red lights and or getting stuck in the middle of an intersection blocking traffic from moving in the other direction. People parking in a live lane of traffic so they can run into Starbucks to get a coffee. People butting into lines. People eating on subways or talking on their phones in loud voices. People walking on sidewalks and in streets looking at their mobile toys oblivious to whomever they run into or inconvenience. People bringing 20 items into the express line. People doing whatever the **** they feel like doing at the exact second they feel like doing it regardless of where they are or whomever else may be affected.

I could go on, but unless you've been living in a cave you should already know this.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Walk out the door and enter society on any given day. People running red lights and or getting stuck in the middle of an intersection blocking traffic from moving in the other direction. People parking in a live lane of traffic so they can run into Starbucks to get a coffee. People butting into lines. People eating on subways or talking on their phones in loud voices. People walking on sidewalks and in streets looking at their mobile toys oblivious to whomever they run into or inconvenience. People bringing 20 items into the express line. People doing whatever the **** they feel like doing at the exact second they feel like doing it regardless of where they are or whomever else may be affected.

I could go on, but unless you've been living in a cave you should already know this.
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so, while you have no proof of what you allege you want us to rely on your observations
got it
 
justabubba said:
so, while you have no proof of what you allege you want us to rely on your observations
got it
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And we get it too...Anything that calls out what selfish assholes think they should be able to do without accountability, is dismissed by said people out of hand....Ah, much better to say "yeah, not me" than actually look introspectively....
 
justabubba said:
so, while you have no proof of what you allege you want us to rely on your observations
got it
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If you have not experienced any of these things, you're a lucky man to have stumbled on to a village that time has passed by. I have a feeling, however, that you've witnessed all of these things and more but to acknowledge such would be counter to an agenda you need to protect.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Funny thing - the more you try to convince people that they are entitled to their entitlements, the more convinced they get. Pretty soon, they're convinced they're entitled to your entitlements too. It's the whole principle behind wealth redistribution.
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What entitlements? I keep hearing this "entitlement" thing coming from the right.

And don't tell me entitled to park in the middle of the street 'er something like that.

If you save for a retirement through social security, aren't you entitled to receive it? Aren't your children entitled to a free education as a benefit of citizenship? What's all this BS about entitlements?
 
j-mac said:
And we get it too...Anything that calls out what selfish assholes think they should be able to do without accountability, is dismissed by said people out of hand....Ah, much better to say "yeah, not me" than actually look introspectively....
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yea
selfish assholes have only been around in recent times
got it
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jet57 said:
What entitlements? I keep hearing this "entitlement" thing coming from the right.

And don't tell me entitled to park in the middle of the street 'er something like that.

If you save for a retirement through social security, aren't you entitled to receive it? Aren't your children entitled to a free education as a benefit of citizenship? What's all this BS about entitlements?
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It was a steaming pile.

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jet57 said:
What entitlements? I keep hearing this "entitlement" thing coming from the right.

And don't tell me entitled to park in the middle of the street 'er something like that.

If you save for a retirement through social security, aren't you entitled to receive it? Aren't your children entitled to a free education as a benefit of citizenship? What's all this BS about entitlements?
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Sorry if you don't understand the language. It is not restricted to government programs but more broadly a sense of being that many in today's society share. It's reflective of a "me first, me now" attitude. The conditions described in the OP on this thread is a perfect illustration.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Sorry if you don't understand the language. It is not restricted to government programs but more broadly a sense of being that many in today's society share. It's reflective of a "me first, me now" attitude. The conditions described in the OP on this thread is a perfect illustration.
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Understanding the language is not a problem at all, for some however, speaking it can be difficult. It seems then, there is a clear difference... delineating the two might be helpful, in cases like this. I can't promise anything, but I'm sure you get the point.

de·lin·e·ate dəˈlinēˌāt/

verb

- describe or portray (something) precisely.

"the law should delineate and prohibit behavior that is socially abhorrent"

synonyms: describe, set forth/out, present, outline, sketch, depict, represent; More
indicate the exact position of (a border or boundary).
synonyms: outline, trace, block in, mark (out/off), delimit
"a section delineated in red pen"
 
jet57 said:
What entitlements? I keep hearing this "entitlement" thing coming from the right.

And don't tell me entitled to park in the middle of the street 'er something like that.
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In the broader sense it is the feeling that what ever I want, or wish to do is my prerogative, regardless of what it costs someone else, or what it does to them...So, yeah, it can mean welfare, or it can mean some jerk cutting you off on the highway to get to the next exit regardless of whether its safe.

If you save for a retirement through social security, aren't you entitled to receive it?
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Sure, but all reports today are that those collecting their SS benefits will exceed what they paid in a few times over. That comes from future contributors, at some point it will go broke, then what?

Aren't your children entitled to a free education as a benefit of citizenship?
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Who the heck ever told you that education was free? It is paid for through property, and other taxes. Now I understand with nearly half the country not paying any net taxes, and if you are in that part of the country then people like me are paying your share.

What's all this BS about entitlements?
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No BS to it...as explained above.
 
j-mac said:
In the broader sense it is the feeling that what ever I want, or wish to do is my prerogative, regardless of what it costs someone else, or what it does to them...So, yeah, it can mean welfare, or it can mean some jerk cutting you off on the highway to get to the next exit regardless of whether its safe.




Sure, but all reports today are that those collecting their SS benefits will exceed what they paid in a few times over. That comes from future contributors, at some point it will go broke, then what?



Who the heck ever told you that education was free? It is paid for through property, and other taxes. Now I understand with nearly half the country not paying any net taxes, and if you are in that part of the country then people like me are paying your share.



No BS to it...as explained above.
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This is a fine post and you are a very good thinker (a luxury around here). I was asking a loaded question of someone who was purposefully misleading his opponent... You and I both know that to the right-wing entitlements; and said thinking, are not about behavior, but this alleged "redistribution of wealth" nonsense that is all about the welfare state.

Now SS: here's how a pension system works: what you contribute; dependent upon agreement / law, is what you take out when you meet the age requirements etc... The Central States Conference of Teamsters Pension Fund is way underfunded - because - population wise, the number of contributors is / was relatively small compared to my group: The Western Conference of Teamsters. I will be long gone, as will my family when that fund comes close to running out. The Central States has suffered massive layoffs and closures do to predatory competition. Therefore, there are a much smaller number contributing members; paying on those who are drawing....

Now, does it occur to you that there are much fewer people paying into the SS system, also due to predatory practices and Wall Streets need to control those funds so that -they - can skim a nickle off of every dime that passes through the system. I know you now what capital means, so I won't go into that. But have you noticed the heavy marketing of private retirement savings against a backdrop of huge unemployment in this country.

Smelling a rat? I am.
 
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