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Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

Kudo's for working the lefts anti-consumerism canard into this. People aren't responsible for their behavior, and somehow capitalism is to blame no doubt. Its just more cultural marxism on display.
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Lets try this again, can you give me an example of rampant consumerism that is thuggish? They aren't equivocal.

Do you notice that you are not addressing any of the issues that are being presented to you? It has been explained to you, REPEATEDLY, that this single issue is what it is, but is a function of a larger issue that transcends any ideological bent that you so badly desire to frame this issue into. Yet, with whatever is being said and how often the single issue of idiots attacking the store is presented and agreed upon, you refuse to address the larger issue, and just stick with your silly "liberals suck" mantra, adding nothing to the discussion. Tell us... is it because you can't, because you are afraid to, or because then you wouldn't be able to blame everything on liberals... you'd actually have to think critically and in the big picture. Please tell us which one of these things are preventing you from addressing the larger issue so we can make note of it and react accordingly.
 
This is silliness. What is the lefts aversion to personal responsibility?

Jesus Christ on a cracker.

Nobody is absolving the unruly Walmart customers for their behavior, guy. A hypothesis regarding what could foster such a mentality that would lead someone to be unruly when Walmart closes early is not the same as not holding those people responsible for their actions.
 
Do you notice that you are not addressing any of the issues that are being presented to you? It has been explained to you, REPEATEDLY, that this single issue is what it is, but is a function of a larger issue that transcends any ideological bent that you so badly desire to frame this issue into. Yet, with whatever is being said and how often the single issue of idiots attacking the store is presented and agreed upon, you refuse to address the larger issue, and just stick with your silly "liberals suck" mantra, adding nothing to the discussion. Tell us... is it because you can't, because you are afraid to, or because then you wouldn't be able to blame everything on liberals... you'd actually have to think critically and in the big picture. Please tell us which one of these things are preventing you from addressing the larger issue so we can make note of it and react accordingly.

Of course it is what it is, watching leftists try to explain it though is quite amusing.
 
I think the real question is how did the American public get so infatuated with Walmart? When I was growing up in the 80's and 90's we went to supermalls where there were different stores to choose from rather than a giant big one.
 
Jesus Christ on a cracker.

Nobody is absolving the unruly Walmart customers for their behavior, guy. A hypothesis regarding what could foster such a mentality that would lead someone to be unruly when Walmart closes early is not the same as not holding those people responsible for their actions.

A hypothesis that sprinkles in some of the lefts delusions is something to behold, I must say.
 
I think the real question is how did the American public get so infatuated with Walmart? When I was growing up in the 80's and 90's we went to supermalls where there were different stores to choose from rather than a giant big one.

So did I but WalMart is cheaper and people are hurting under the Obama administration.
 
Of course it is what it is, watching leftists try to explain it though is quite amusing.

Ah. So the answer to why you refuse to address the larger issue is because then you wouldn't be able to blame everything on liberals, you'd have to think critically and consider the big picture. So, you are being intellectually lazy. Good. Now that that's settled, we can react to your posts in accordance with that fact.
 
Its not some evil boogeyman like our leftist friends espouse. And the rest is a strawman. A Christmas strawman.

Actually, this is an intellectually lazy strawman in and of itself. No one is saying that consumerism is evil. It has it's pros and cons like most things. And like most things, this is not a black and white issue.
 
Ah. So the answer to why you refuse to address the larger issue is because then you wouldn't be able to blame everything on liberals, you'd have to think critically and consider the big picture. So, you are being intellectually lazy. Good. Now that that's settled, we can react to your posts in accordance with that fact.

Seems rather prejudicial, but so be it. I love listening to lefties explain things though.
 
A hypothesis that sprinkles in some of the lefts delusions is something to behold, I must say.

Another intellectually lazy post. Rather than looking at causes and/or solutions, you look for blame, completely missing the point that everyone has communicated to you.
 
Seems rather prejudicial, but so be it. I love listening to lefties explain things though.

Another intellectually lazy post. Rather than actually addressing the issue I presented, you'd rather ignore it as it would challenge your critical thinking skills. Come on, USCon... give it a try. Tell us why you are consistently misrepresenting what people are saying to you and ignoring the larger issue that is being presented. If it's not one of the choices I presented, what could it be?
 
I say that our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.

Wasn't that said 2500 years ago?
 
Selfishness has been raised to a virtual art form. Normal decadence is no longer enough, greed and disgusting decadence and selfish behavior has almost become the norm. Why think yourself lucky that a company and the good people who work there have sacrificed part of the christmas eve time so that you can do your shopping after most regular people have joined their loved ones at home for a nice meal and the enjoyment of being with those loved ones.

But maybe you had a job that made it impossible to shop until 8pm on chrismas eve, it is not like you could have done that shopping in any of the days leading up to xmas eve but still, needs must prevail, arrogance must be adhered to and you are the only person that matters on xmas eve, not the employees who worked a long holiday season and yearn to be with their loved ones for the holiday season. Noooooo, you and you alone are the one that matters and silly people who cannot see or understand that.

I live in a country where church and unions had made the Sunday into a no shopping day. But with the rejuvenation of the employer/employee relationship making it possible to not think of Saturday and Sunday as the 2 days in the week in which you have to be off (Dutch law says employees must have 2 days off in a week and those 2 days have to be consecutive). With cities/municipalities now being free to choice for themselves whether or not the shops may be open on Sunday, it has been a new day for Dutch shoppers.

When I was younger, shopping for groceries was done from 9am to 6pm on Monday to Friday and from 9am to 5pm on a Saturday and shops were closed on Sunday.

Nowadays, supermarkets are open from 8am to 8pm on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, from 8am to 10pm on Thursday and Friday and from 8am to 8pm on a Saturday. And with the added bonus of most supermarkets also being open on Sunday (differs from city to city but normally from 12am to 5/6pm is normal. And we as customers are happy with that change, it makes us free to decide on when we want to do the shopping. In the US most customers have been blessed with liberal opening times from shops, but at some point the people should learn to be happy with what they have. Have a bit of compassion with your fellow human beings who work in shops, allow them to have the same joy of Christmas eve as most other people get to enjoy and close at a regular/reasonable time.

Selfishness as said has been raised to a virtual frigging art form but enough is enough. People have to learn to be a bit less selfish and that will be to the betterment of the entire human population/society.

there are a few points I could nit pick, but over all I agree with your post peter...Merry Christmas.
 
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But now everyone has a cellphone- This permits juvenile delinquents to quickly gather in large groups (Flash mobs.) and commit crimes that wouldn't be possible for individuals. :roll:

I think that's "flash robs" not flash mobs. When my kid worked at a convenience store they got flash robbed several times a week.
 
there are a few points I could nit pick, but over all I agree with your post peter...Merry Christmas.

And the same to you, merry Christmas.

I also do not understand why some people have an issue with the "happy holidays" instead of merry Christmas or vice versa (to all those nasty atheists who refuse to use the greeting with Christ in the word).

I am an atheist, I do not believe in Christ son of god or in god and the bible, but why should I bleeping care if someone wishes me a merry Christmas? I wish people merry Christmas too. Because this time is Christmas, who cares if you are a muslim, atheist, jew, christian, etc. etc., if someone wishes you a merry Christmas then have the baubles to do the same.

So to everyone here, merry Christmas, merry Xmas, happy holidays, gelukkig kerstfeest, feliz navidad, frohe weihnachten, Joyeux Noël or in Australian "have a bloody good Christmas". Who gives a crap how you call it, just wish it on others and more importantly, live it.

Sorry J-mac, did not want to get on a high horse and it does not strictly have to do with your post but I still had to say it.
 
And the same to you, merry Christmas.

I also do not understand why some people have an issue with the "happy holidays" instead of merry Christmas or vice versa (to all those nasty atheists who refuse to use the greeting with Christ in the word).

I am an atheist, I do not believe in Christ son of god or in god and the bible, but why should I bleeping care if someone wishes me a merry Christmas? I wish people merry Christmas too. Because this time is Christmas, who cares if you are a muslim, atheist, jew, christian, etc. etc., if someone wishes you a merry Christmas then have the baubles to do the same.

So to everyone here, merry Christmas, merry Xmas, happy holidays, gelukkig kerstfeest, feliz navidad, frohe weihnachten, Joyeux Noël or in Australian "have a bloody good Christmas". Who gives a crap how you call it, just wish it on others and more importantly, live it.

Sorry J-mac, did not want to get on a high horse and it does not strictly have to do with your post but I still had to say it.

Whether you celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday, a commercial extravaganza, a time to gather family, some combination of the above, or not at all, may you have a Merry Christmas, all of you!
 
If the trend is to defy authority, like with the protests against the police, it is nothing to defy the management at a Walmart.

I think this is a bad road the country is going down.
 
Those who have gone the ideological route have, as usual, no clue and refuse to challenge themselves with really examining the issue. From what I've seen, this is not about ideology at all. It's about current technology.

In this day and age, with technology as it is, we live in a time where one practically NEVER has to delay gratification. Want to watch a specific movie? In the old days, you waited until it came to the TV. Now, you have on demand services all over the place? Want to buy something? In the old days, you waited until you had time and went to the store... or if the store didn't have it, you either bought something else, went to a different store, or ordered it from the store and waited. NOW, go to Amazon or Ebay, click a few buttons, and in a day or so, it's yours. You don't even have to leave your room. Want to talk to someone? In the old days, you either waited until you got home... and spoke to them IF they were home too, or you found a pay phone, and again spoke to them if they were home, too. Now, you can reach anyone anytime, anywhere. Just pull your cell phone out and call. They have one, too. People are not used to gratification delay, so when they are told "no, wait", it contradicts everything that they usually do. Hence, what happened in the OP's article.
Hmm, so you're saying I should have delayed gratification by not skyping with my children on the other side of the country this Christmas, I should have waited for the ex to send the telegram (FYI she never sends me ****). Interesting opinion you have there.

I'm about to paid in an hour and a half because my employer takes full advantage of computers and has a purely paperless payroll. I suppose you would want me to wait for a paper check to come in the mail? And since pay is issued on Fridays, and it's a holiday so pay wouldn't be issued until Monday, and it would take 4-5 days to get from corporate HQ to my PO box, are you saying I'm somehow selfish taking my pay this Friday instead of next Friday?

I'm just not seeing any room for people of any age to complain. We're all alive today and we all have access to the same things.
 
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Hmm, so you're saying I should have delayed gratification by not skyping with my children on the other side of the country this Christmas, I should have waited for the ex to send the telegram (FYI she never sends me ****). Interesting opinion you have there.

Jerry... I think you know better than to make absurd assumptions like that from a post that in no way makes that claim or anything close to it. There are many things that technological advances have done to enhance our lives and society. And there are some where it has hurt one or both. I was pointing out an instance of the latter.
 
Jerry... I think you know better than to make absurd assumptions like that from a post that in no way makes that claim or anything close to it. There are many things that technological advances have done to enhance our lives and society. And there are some where it has hurt one or both. I was pointing out an instance of the latter.
Please understand that I'm not angry here, I just literally have nothing to do for the next hour and this is kind of a pet peeve with me. How does being able to order something off of e-bay and have it in your hands the very next day harm you? Wouldn't harm depend on what you're ordering and why, and not on how easy it was for you get or how fast you got it?
 
In bold. Then don't. This could, potentially be an interesting thread, discussing societal causes of behaviors such as this. It's a larger issue that permeates society. I see it as a gratification delay issue. Others have cited selfishness. Some have said lack of consequences. What do you think?

I think it's all of these. Partly, it's what two successive "me generations" hath wrought, but you're right about what I call the fast-food mentality. And the loosening of societal strictures. People actually think it's okay to wear a t-shirt with a huge f-bomb on it out in public where children can see it, and they think nothing about sharing their most intimate business while yacking on their cells in a grocery store checkout line.

Maybe we could begin with a little more regard for others. Another plus would not be categorizing those who behave badly as "liberals" or "conservatives": They're unique individuals who are solely and entirely responsible for what they say and do, and lean has little to do with it. Ill-bred, boorish behavior is YOUR choice.
 
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