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Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol[W:649]

Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Grant said:
Nowhere did I call for an end to Satanists right to worship. They are certainly ignorant but trying to stamp out ignorance is also a futile task.

Nonetheless, you do have a flair for the banal.
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OK, do you think the satanists should be allowed to have their display up with the other religions? Yes or no?
 
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Flamethrower said:
Then what percent of the time is the ACLU siding against Christians?
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The percentage of times Christians are violating the Constitution.
 
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beefheart said:
OK, do you think the satanists should be allowed to have their display up with the other religions? Yes or no?
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do you mind if I copy this to the poll section? Its a great poll topic
 
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matchlight said:
Not every act that every person engages in should be tolerated, just because they claim it is an expression of their religious beliefs. If, say at Christmas time, some cult that believes in torturing infants to death as a sacrifice to its god wants to put up a public display depicting one of its rituals, nothing requires the people who live there to allow it.
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Next time try with something rational, plausible and legal.
 
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countryboy said:
Another absolutely scintillating contribution to this thread. Thank you so much. :yawn:
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At least as much as the stupid question that I was responding to or for that matter your posts.
 
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j-mac said:
Doesn't the same apply for Christians
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As a matter of law it should and does, as a matter of dogma it is for them to decide.
 
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Unrepresented said:
Not actively supporting every nuance of the Bill of Rights makes a group a communist enterprise?

You're recklessly throwing around "communist" in a discussion that still has nothing to do with economics.
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I gave the mountain of evidence ---the reasons why the ACLU is a communist affiliate.

If communism was all about the ecomomy, then why is education listed as one of the tenets among other non-economic hallmarks typical of communist governments?
 
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tacomancer said:
The ACLU Is Not Evil | Christianity Today




oh look, its the ACLU defending religious displays at a government institution.

Pro-Gay Marriage ACLU Defends Chick-fil-A - US - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com



oh look its the ACLU defending christians in a private business setting.
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Thanks for informing me. I was not aware Chick-fil-A was a local or state government.

The ACLU would of course bent over backwards to join an atheisist group that would ban school prayer at the same school that allowed a child to sing "awesome God."
 
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Unrepresented said:
The percentage of times Christians are violating the Constitution.
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Yes,------------------------------- right.
 
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tacomancer said:
unsubstantiated

"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. " - Jefferson
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Right up until they do you harm because you don't believe in their gods, they ostracize you from society, refuse to do business with you or hang you from a tree. Jefferson was only correct, so long as the religious keep their religion to themselves. When they do not, then it absolutely does injury.
 
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Cephus said:
Right up until they do you harm because you don't believe in their gods, they ostracize you from society, refuse to do business with you or hang you from a tree. Jefferson was only correct, so long as the religious keep their religion to themselves. When they do not, then it absolutely does injury.
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I'm not 100% sure on that one. I think that they can express religion without hanging someone from a tree or otherwise infringing upon the rights of others. And if they do refrain from infringing upon the rights of others, then they should be allowed to do as they see fit.
 
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Flamethrower said:
I gave the mountain of evidence ---the reasons why the ACLU is a communist affiliate.

If communism was all about the ecomomy, then why is education listed as one of the tenets among other non-economic hallmarks typical of communist governments?
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You didn't give me a mountain of evidence, you copied and pasted hack opinions.
 
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Ikari said:
I'm not 100% sure on that one. I think that they can express religion without hanging someone from a tree or otherwise infringing upon the rights of others. And if they do refrain from infringing upon the rights of others, then they should be allowed to do as they see fit.
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I'm not saying that most do not refrain from infringing on the rights of others, but one only has to look at history to see that there's a considerable amount of harm done in the name of religion to people who want nothing to do with it. You get people beheaded in the Middle East today because they don't follow the local religious delusion. You get women raped, people beaten and property destroyed because someone dares to follow a different religious tradition, or no tradition at all. This is not at all uncommon. Even for those who do not stoop to violence, we know that our beliefs do inform our actions and that includes how we vote. That's where all the anti-gay and racist laws came from across the country, people who thought that an invisible man in the sky wanted it that way. It's taken a long time, and we're still not done, rooting out a lot of the religiously-based hatred. That's not no harm, that's a lot of harm and it needs to be addressed. For those, as I said, that keep their religions to themselves, I have no problem with. It's the fact that many people cannot do so, they feel the need to push their beliefs on others, either through violence or through force of law, that needs to be addressed.
 
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Flamethrower said:
My opinons are quite valid and commonplace.
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In some limited circles. That hardly makes them universally so.

It's not for nothing the ACLU is also called: American Communist Lawyers Union.
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By great luminaries that need and use labels instead of arguments.
 
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beefheart said:
OK, do you think the satanists should be allowed to have their display up with the other religions? Yes or no?
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What people are allowed to do and what be can do is quite differnt. yes, the Satanists can put up their displays next to Christmas displays but, out of tolerance and respect for others, they shouldn't.

If they exhibited some good grace they would put up their displays at a different time than the Christians, just as other religions demonstrate their good will and good sense by keeping their displays separate during the Christmas season.

But of course if the Satanists put up their display on it's own at any other time of the year no one would pay them any attention, and that''s the problem for these dullwits.
 
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prometeus said:
As a matter of law it should and does, as a matter of dogma it is for them to decide.
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Yes, and people are judging them and those who support them. The consensus seems to be that they are fools.
 
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Flamethrower said:
Thanks for informing me. I was not aware Chick-fil-A was a local or state government.

The ACLU would of course bent over backwards to join an atheisist group that would ban school prayer at the same school that allowed a child to sing "awesome God."
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If the prayer is voluntary and not part of the curriculum they would defend it. This is exactly as it should be
 
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tacomancer said:
If the prayer is voluntary and not part of the curriculum they would defend it. This is exactly as it should be
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As long as the school staff don't try to pray or lead the students in prayer. The ACLU and Lib courts have stripped these citizens of their rights.

I guess the staff should have no religious rights. Do you think public schools should be ran by Big Brother, or the local citizens?
 
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sangha said:
NO matter how many BS words you post, it won't change the fact that this woman damaged property that didn't belong to her which is vandalism

You are supporting criminal behavior because you like the religion of the perpetrator
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If so, then your president is supporting criminal behavior by decline to enforce whatever federal criminal statutes he doesn't like. Isn't it Comrade Obama and his lackey of an Attorney General who are always singing the praises of prosecutorial discretion?
 
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Grant said:
What people are allowed to do and what be can do is quite differnt. yes, the Satanists can put up their displays next to Christmas displays but, out of tolerance and respect for others, they shouldn't.

If they exhibited some good grace they would put up their displays at a different time than the Christians, just as other religions demonstrate their good will and good sense by keeping their displays separate during the Christmas season.

But of course if the Satanists put up their display on it's own at any other time of the year no one would pay them any attention, and that''s the problem for these dullwits.
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So, you can't answer yes or no without a qualifier. This isn't a should or shouldn't case...the goat is out of the barn, it happened.
 
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tacomancer said:
do you mind if I copy this to the poll section? Its a great poll topic
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Sure, go nuts.
 
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Unrepresented said:
Well duh.

There are limitations to religious freedom. Your own religion disagreeing with someone else's religion isn't one of them.
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What if the members of the infant-sacrifice cult in my example claimed that being denied a display in the public square was an unfair limitation to their religious freedom--that it was nothing but a case of someone else's religion disagreeing with their own "religion?" I take your "Well duh" to mean you think the answers in these cases are glaringly obvious to anyone who's not as dim as me, so I suppose they should just call on you to interpret the First Amendment for them.
 
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