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Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol[W:649]

Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Satanism is a heinous evil.

You forgot to add "in your opinion".

I actually can't recall any large scale killings that have happened in satan's name lately. Many more have been done in the name of the christian and muslim gods.

I think it's all nonsense, but if they're going to allow one religion to put up displays, then they have to allow all groups to do it.

Sorry to hear that you're condoning violence by saying her actions were understandable.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Why should they, it's a predominantly Christian country.
Constitutionally irrelevant. The government cannot prefer any religion over any other religion. Using your logic, the predominant religion is the official religion by definition; but the Constitution prohibits an official religion. You can't have it both ways.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

It's a secular country.
If America is a secular country, why are most people religious? If America was a secular country, wouldn't that mean that most people are either atheist or agnostic?
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

If America is a secular country, why are most people religious? If America was a secular country, wouldn't that mean that most people are either atheist or agnostic?
A country and its population or popular culture are not necessarily the same thing
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

If America is a secular country, why are most people religious?
They have a right to be, under the Free Exercise Clause (U.S. Const. amend. I). However, as a matter of law - and Constitution - it's a secular country by virtue of the Establishment Clause (also amend. I)

If America was a secular country, wouldn't that mean that most people are either atheist or agnostic?
No. You're confusing the nature of the country with the nature of the individual citizens - the logical fallacy of division (or composition, depending on which direction you're reasoning and which clause of the 1st Amendment you're using).

Composition Fallacy
Division Fallacy
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

A country and its population or popular culture are not necessarily the same thing
Population and popular culture are parts that compose a country. To say a country is secular is to say the general population and popular culture is secular.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Christianity is the truth.

To about a third of the people in the world you are correct.

For the other 2/3, not so much.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

They have a right to be, under the Free Exercise Clause (U.S. Const. amend. I). However, as a matter of law - and Constitution - it's a secular country by virtue of the Establishment Clause (also amend. I)
You're describing the government, which again is just a part of the country. The government is secular, the country is not. The country is in fact very religious.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Christianity is the truth.
Young Earth Creationism is not the truth, so your statement is false.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Good for her, where do I send her bail money.

Send it to me. I'll take care of it for you.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

The country is in fact very religious.

How can the country be "very religious" when the vast majority of its' population is only "nominally religious"?
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

How can the country be "very religious" when the vast majority of its' population is only "nominally religious"?
If the country is 'normally religious' then that proves my point that the country isn't secular, so I'll take that compromise :peace
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Population and popular culture are parts that compose a country. To say a country is secular is to say the general population and popular culture is secular.
They are indeed part, but not the whole

Our laws are secular

Our court system is secular

Most of our institutions and businesses are secular

Most of our media and cultural output is secular

Etc...
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Why? Did it remove Christian displays?

No.

You forgot to add "in your opinion".

I actually can't recall any large scale killings that have happened in satan's name lately. Many more have been done in the name of the christian and muslim gods.

I think it's all nonsense, but if they're going to allow one religion to put up displays, then they have to allow all groups to do it.

Sorry to hear that you're condoning violence by saying her actions were understandable.

I didn't condone her actions. I pointed out that they're much less morally serious than the actions of the Satanists.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

No.



I didn't condone her actions. I pointed out that they're much less morally serious than the actions of the Satanists.

What in Gods name does "morally serious" mean?
 
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Really? He/she/it told you so? Or did you get it from that book of compiled stories which have been edited and reedited over hundreds of years?
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Really? He/she/it told you so? Or did you get it from that book of compiled stories which have been edited and reedited over hundreds of years?

None of the above. God revealed it through Christianity.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

They are indeed part, but not the whole.
That's my point. When one says "this is a secular country" they're saying all parts are secular. Clearly that is not the case, and that's why this is even an issue.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

None of the above. God revealed it through Christianity.

That's really funny. Christians can't even agree Christianity let alone the "morals" associated with it. How many humans do you think were tortured and or killed during the inquisition spreading the "morals" of Christianity?
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

That's really funny. Christians can't even agree Christianity let alone the "morals" associated with it. How many humans do you think were tortured and or killed during the inquisition spreading the "morals" of Christianity?

Argument from opinion.

And the answer is none, since spreading the morals of Christianity was not the Inquisition's job.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Argument from opinion.

And the answer is none, since spreading the morals of Christianity was not the Inquisition's job.

Argument from opinion? You mean like Christianity is truth? Happy Kwanza Mr. Con.
 
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