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Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

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OrphanSlug said:
I predict Al Sharpton will be speaking by the end of the day, and we'll see riots soon thereafter.
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I predict Al Sharpton will be hundreds or even thousands of miles away but Fox News will manipulate their videos so that it appears that Al personally shot the officer.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Throwing fireworks at a gas station sounds like a legal, safe and sane way of protesting. ;)
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Is it less sane than firing smoke grenades into a crowd of protestors because it surely calms them down?
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Want my guns? Come take them. Bring whoever you want. Just be the first through the door.
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Law abiding citizen you are definitely :lol:
 
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sawdust said:
This happened when I was asleep, a thousand miles from where I am. I don't know enough to talk about it. I'm sure eventually details will come out. All I know at this point is that it happened. I would suggest that everyone wait to discover the how and why and not say things like, just because the cops said something, I don't trust them. That's foolish.
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I agree. We don't know what happened.

However, in general, it's a bad idea to pull a gun on a cop. On the other hand, given the tension in the St. Louis area, it's important for any cop to approach a young black man in a non-threatening manner. And perhaps with another cop.

Until we know what the facts are - what the cop said, why the young man pulled the gun (if he did), and so on, it's premature to say if the cop was right or wrong to shoot him.

So yes, the protesters are premature as well - but it's important to remember the context, the huge amount of frustration at the racism in the area. At least from the article, it doesn't sound like the protesters were violent, although I heard there were some police cars dented.

I hope the facts can be revealed quickly and fully.
 
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Jerry said:
Video Shows Moments Before Police Shooting Near Ferguson, Missouri - ABC News

Looks to me like the teen was pointing a gun at the cop.
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Looks like the Guy wearing the Adidas is yelling.....I can't breathe, after they put the handcuffs on him.

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MMC said:
Looks like the Guy wearing the Adidas is yelling.....I can't breathe, after they put the handcuffs on him.

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I'm not sure, that man looks alive....
 
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Declan said:
Is it less sane than firing smoke grenades into a crowd of protestors because it surely calms them down?
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Smoke employed to discourage protestors is not the same thing as igniting incendiary devices in close proximity to gasoline. People generally don't explode when exposed to smoke. The events are not analogous in any way.
 
MMC said:
Another shooting of a young black man in Missouri, that had pulled a gun on the Officer. Couple miles away from Ferguson. The Officer did what he had to.....and deadly force was used. Immediately a band of protestors gather on the scene. Right away taunting the police and blaming them for killing another black man. It didn't matter the young black man pulled a gun. What say ye?







BERKELEY, Missouri (AP) — A suburban St. Louis police officer shot and killed a man who pointed a gun at him at a gas station late Tuesday, police said.

A crowd of about 100 people were gathered early Wednesday at the scene in Berkeley, Missouri, a few miles from Ferguson, where a white police officer fatally shot black 18-year-old Michael Brown in August. The protesters gathered early Wednesday milled around the gas pumps at the station, some taunting and yelling at police officers.

Some had strands of yellow police-line tape draped around their neck, with others using it as a headband. Authorities from multiple agencies, some in riot gear, stood among the protesters.....snip~

Police: Officer in Missouri shot, killed man who pulled gun
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This whole thing is getting old. Perhaps the only solution is to stop policing black neighborhoods so all these protesters will have nothing to protest about. I just about had it with all this idiocy.

I have went from something needs to be done to erase the inequality of law enforcement against blacks to basically neutral once all the burning and rioting took place in Ferguson to leaning for strict law enforcement after the shootings in NYC of the two policemen. Today, my feelings is just stop this lunacy. Enough is enough, If they don't want the police, fine. Just stop policing those neighborhoods that do not want the police. Problem solved.
 
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reinoe said:
I predict Al Sharpton will be hundreds or even thousands of miles away but Fox News will manipulate their videos so that it appears that Al personally shot the officer.
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Well, he was already in the area and did bring the 3 families that had people killed together down there. I am sure his words were noted just a couple miles away from where he was staying.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
I was unclear. I was saying that after the protesters arrived, the police made a statement about the guy pulling a gun.


All you did was quote the police statement again. Like I said, if the police are telling the truth, then it was permissible to shoot them, but I'm not inclined to just accept what they way. Reporting their account of events as fact is silly to me.
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Yeah, taking into consideration what the police said happened is just silly.
 
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RDS said:
Get the body camera implemented. That will shed more light.
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No it won't. Haters will still rally against cops no matter what any video shows. What do they want? Dead cops. When do they want it? Now!
 
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X Factor said:
Yeah, taking into consideration what the police said happened is just silly.
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Nice distortion. He never stated he wouldn't take the polices words into consideration, he was suggesting he wasn't going to accept just the polices words as the truth.

Personally, I'm inclined to give the police the benefit of the doubt here initially...which is why I don't think the officer should be taken into custody or anything of the sort. But it would be foolhearty to just assume that the police officers version of events is 100% truth and forgo looking for additional information to verify and/or clarify the cops story, and it would be poor reporting to report a single persons account of the situation at this early of a stage as if it's verified fact.
 
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X Factor said:
No it won't. Haters will still rally against cops no matter what any video shows. What do they want? Dead cops. When do they want it? Now!
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Again, another dishonest argument. Stating that people will still rally against the cops in no way, shape, or form disproves his assertion that it would shed more light on this situation.

Its absolutley reasonable to suggest that even with "more light" shed on this incident there's a good chance there would still be people using it to rally against cops. However, people rallying agianst the cops doesn't somehow disprove that more light wouldn't be shed on it.

RDS's comment latter comment is correct, even if you don't agree with the need for cops to have body cameras. If there was a camera on the police officers person there would be more information available regarding this shooting. That's simple fact. Claiming "no it won't" is a flat out falsehood. The rest of your post is nothing but a strawman
 
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Declan said:
Is it less sane than firing smoke grenades into a crowd of protestors because it surely calms them down?
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Depends. Are those smoke grenades causing any kind of spark to occur within the proximity of the gas pumps?

If not...yes, yes it is much less sane. Could smoke cause some of the crowd to act up? Sure. It could also disuade some of the crowd as well. However, what it couldn't do (based on the hyotehtical of "if not") is cause an explosion.
 
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MMC said:
Some pics on how this amped up. Again, it seems they did not care that this guy pulled a gun on a cop.


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In pic #3, it's nice to see the young Chicago Bears fan being beautifully parented as she screams at police. :roll:
 
Perotista said:
This whole thing is getting old. Perhaps the only solution is to stop policing black neighborhoods so all these protesters will have nothing to protest about. I just about had it with all this idiocy.

I have went from something needs to be done to erase the inequality of law enforcement against blacks to basically neutral once all the burning and rioting took place in Ferguson to leaning for strict law enforcement after the shootings in NYC of the two policemen. Today, my feelings is just stop this lunacy. Enough is enough, If they don't want the police, fine. Just stop policing those neighborhoods that do not want the police. Problem solved.
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To stop policing black communities would mean that there would be twice as many dead as there is now. Without Cops.....its like Charles Barclay said. Wild Wild West.

Did you see how the AP gave into it with their Poll. They went and polled 85 people and came up with that Best Story of 2014 was Cops killing black men.

What a crock that is. Best Story of 2014. The MS Media is driving this issue. Its about time people woke up and went after those pushing the Narrative. That would be those Editors and News Directors. Break out their names and let the good people of this nation bring them what they deserve.


AP poll: Police killings of blacks voted top story of 2014


The police killings of unarmed blacks in Ferguson, Missouri, and elsewhere — and the investigations and tumultuous protests they inspired — was the top news story of 2014, according to The Associated Press' annual poll of U.S. editors and news directors.

Read more at AP poll: Police killings of blacks voted top story of 2014 :: WRAL.com

After the Editors and Directors.....then go for those that were feeding tensions. No reason they should get to live comfortable and easy like. Show them there is a price to pay.....for playing with society.
 
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CanadaJohn said:
In pic #3, it's nice to see the young Chicago Bears fan being beautifully parented as she screams at police. :roll:
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Good grief these people are idiots.
 
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X Factor said:
No it won't. Haters will still rally against cops no matter what any video shows. What do they want? Dead cops. When do they want it? Now!
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And they are getting it.
 
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countryboy said:
Good grief these people are idiots.
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I think they're about as robotic and brainwashed as the crowds you see in North Korean videos screaming and crying for the "Dear Leader".
 
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Jerry said:
Video Shows Moments Before Police Shooting Near Ferguson, Missouri - ABC News

Looks to me like the teen was pointing a gun at the cop.
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Looks similar to me, though hard to really make anything major out with the low resolution that's released. Hopefully the police will have some means of getting a better look at it.

The conflict appears to be happening a fair bit around the police cruiser. Hopefully if we're lucky the cruisers camera was on and caught it as well.

Happy this occured at a gas station though, if it was going to have to occur somewhere, as it allows for video evidence. From this video though, as best as I can see, it definitely seems the individual pulled a gun on the officer which verifies the cops story.
 
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