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One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

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"Not just blacks" means blacks, as a group, and others. Check context and a grammar guide.

Yeah, and your reply was to talk about "black people as a group".

IOW, he said "hey look, this one group of folks which includes some blacks but seems tied to this particular ideological movement from a few years ago is doing X"

and your response was "How can you say that all black people are doing X?" when he did not say that all black people or black people as a group had done anything, nor that black people were unique in their membership in this movement" you are being more racially oriented than the person you are responding to, while accusing him of being racially oriented.
 
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The vast majority of protesters weren't a mob looking for mob justice. They protested what they saw as an unfair and wrong grand jury verdict. Given the statistics regarding successful indictments of police versus normal people a lot of people justifiably feel that something's rotten in Denmark. The mayor has every right to voice that opinion as well, especially since he really doesn't have any power over the district attorneys - they're elected not appointed.

And, by use of their mob, want to change the law, or something. More accurately, they want the system rigged, so that they can get the deaired outcome, at will.

That same mob says that cops are racxiats, get special treatment and De Blasio played right along with it.
 
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I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and guess that Jared Lee Loughner was not "directly influenced" by anyone.

Not like this guy was, unless you're going to jump on the it's Sarah Palin's fault wagon.
 
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How, in your own words, did de Blasio "encourage" people cheering for "dead cops" a thousand miles from his jurisdiction?

Baltimore isn't a thousand miles from New York.
 
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What did De Blasio say that condemned the entire NYC police force? Quote please.

Or, does condemning one officer means you condemn all of the police in a city?

That officer had been held accountable, by our due process and was acquitted. The mayor can't condemn that officer.
 
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Do you have a quote or not?
No?
Got it.

LOL! That's your response? If anything, you don't get it at all. So, you are just going to wear binders on this one? If I don't post an exact quote of what he said, instead of referencing it, you are claiming it didn't happen. How passive aggressive of you.

Protesting police violence does NOT equal acceptance or violence against police. The protest in NYC was virtually violence free, why would De Blasio bitch about that?
It is our legal right as citizens of the USA to protest. Would you prefer that De Blasio goes against the Bill of Rights?

Are you even paying attention? Seems like you aren't even reading what I posted. Did you read the part about the protesters calling for dead cops??? You don't think DeBlasio, who already sided with the protesters, shouldn't denounce that call to kill police officers? Nah, he's just the mayor of NYC.
 
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I see... liberals made up his mind for him.

Then you shouldn't have any problem producing the quotes that support calls to violence... right?
The fact is that it's most certainly not 'open season' for LEOs on black youth. The statistics prove it, yet it's such a racially loaded and emotional narrative, the response has been to riot, burn, and loot.

Watch Michael Brown’s Stepdad Order Ferguson Blacks To “Burn This Mother****er Down!” Over And Over Again, After Verdict

Well, now there are 2 dead cops. Shot while they were in their cruiser just sitting there while on duty.

This whole thing is starting to turn into a tinderbox, just waiting for the next spark.

Where's that spark going to come from? Sharpton? Jackson? Obama? The next justified police shooting?

I wouldn't be surprised if the NYC police all caught the blue flu for 2 days, and just let everything go wild, which you know it would. All of a sudden, various neighborhood engaged in protests would want the cops back, and might even stop protesting.
 
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Everything bad that happens to the police is not related to the actions of the police.

Everything bad that happens to people at the hands of the police is completely related to the actions of the people and the police are never responsible.


Do you not see the sheer madness of the above statements?
The guy clearly states he is supposedly getting back at the police for the recent deaths of two men at the hands of police.

He says exactly why he's doing it! How does that relate to anything said by Liberals?!

Nowhere in his statements does he say De Blasio, Sharpton and Obama are the reasons he committed this horrific murders. None of the protest focused on vengeance... not a single one. None of these men or any protest made gave any statements before or after the murders that support violent responses.

But, if you can support your claim that anyone's rhetoric led to violence, please quote it or STFU. I'd love to see these comments made by liberals that support violence. BTW, prove they are liberals.

"Burn this bitch down!"
 
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Yeah, and your reply was to talk about "black people as a group".

IOW, he said "hey look, this one group of folks which includes some blacks but seems tied to this particular ideological movement from a few years ago is doing X"

and your response was "How can you say that all black people are doing X?" when he did not say that all black people or black people as a group had done anything, nor that black people were unique in their membership in this movement" you are being more racially oriented than the person you are responding to, while accusing him of being racially oriented.

"He who smelt it dealt it", ay? haha


Tell us more about this war against cops. Beside black people, who is at war with cops?
 
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It's an undeniable escalation to those ends. an escalation brought about by 'revolution' seeking professional leftists stoking the flames of racial/class discontent towards the "fundamental transformation" of a political/economic system they utterly abhor.

own it.

Nice racist fantasy you've got there.
 
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"Burn this bitch down!"

Made by an angry father who felt his son was unjustly killed.

Reasonable at the time.
 
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And, by use of their mob, want to change the law, or something. More accurately, they want the system rigged, so that they can get the deaired outcome, at will.

That same mob says that cops are racxiats, get special treatment and De Blasio played right along with it.

What mob? I agree there are some people who want to outcome rigged in the other direction. But most of the protestors seem to only want fairness.

And the cops do seem to get special treatment. It's very hard to get a cop indicted for behavior on the job. Shoot someone, with a legally owned firearm, in self defense in NY and see how you're treated (hint: indictment and trial in the vast majority of cases) versus what happens to a cop (exoneration by internal review, no indictment if it ever gets to the grand jury).
 
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Made by an angry father who felt his son was unjustly killed.

Reasonable at the time.

Not in a civil society.
 
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Made by an angry father who felt his son was unjustly killed.

Reasonable at the time.

Didn't take long to rationalize the violence. We knew that was coming, though.
 
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Sure, back off the racist crap now.

So.... no. You can't demonstrate where I have clearly stated that anyone has started a war, or that blacks as a group have done anything.

I'd suggest you take your own advice.
 
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Made by an angry father who felt his son was unjustly killed.

Reasonable at the time.

Not reasonable. Understandable.
 
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What mob? I agree there are some people who want to outcome rigged in the other direction. But most of the protestors seem to only want fairness.

And the cops do seem to get special treatment. It's very hard to get a cop indicted for behavior on the job. Shoot someone, with a legally owned firearm, in self defense in NY and see how you're treated (hint: indictment and trial in the vast majority of cases) versus what happens to a cop (exoneration by internal review, no indictment if it ever gets to the grand jury).

By fairness, you mean the system should be rigged to achieve a desired outcome, at will.

Peaceful, or violent, that's exactly what the protestors want.
 
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So.... no. You can't demonstrate where I have clearly stated that anyone has started a war, or that blacks as a group have done anything.

I'd suggest you take your own advice.

So your "Bingo! Race..." was not in response to the post you quoted? That's odd. Do you often quote posts and then not refer to them?
 
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One thing I noticed, the media's need to say this was an actual "revenge killing". Correct me if I am wrong, but this guy was a career criminal who shot his girlfriend and was on the run.

This was "suicide by cop" while trying to make a name for himself, the savage didn't care about the issue.
 
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One thing I noticed, the media's need to say this was an actual "revenge killing". Correct me if I am wrong, but this guy was a career criminal who shot his girlfriend and was on the run.

This was "suicide by cop" while trying to make a name for himself, the savage didn't care about the issue.

The shooter said it was revenge for Garner and Brown.
 
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The shooter said it was revenge for Garner and Brown.


What other actions, tweets, fb posts, etc has he done in protesting thier deaths.


He was a savage who was wanted, and decided to commit suicide by cop/self to look like a martyr.
 
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So your "Bingo! Race..." was not in response to the post you quoted? That's odd.

It is the way to go about doing it. That doesn't mean that A) anyone has done it or B) blacks as a group have decided anything.

My "Bingo" was in response to the point that when you incite violence, you often get violence, and that the race baiters and their enablers had been inciting or enabling violence.

What no one said was that "blacks as a group" have decided to do anything nor that a war has actually been started. That help? :)
 
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Not reasonable. Understandable.

I stand corrected. Thank you.
 
Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

It is the way to go about doing it. That doesn't mean that A) anyone has done it or B) blacks as a group have decided anything.

My "Bingo" was in response to the point that when you incite violence, you often get violence, and that the race baiters and their enablers had been inciting or enabling violence.

What no one said was that "blacks as a group" have decided to do anything nor that a war has actually been started. That help? :)

Yeah, sure.
 
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