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PeteEU said:
LOL you are using an anti-Muslim far right wing site as your proof?
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Anything that can point to an Islamic movement is an "anti-Muslim far right wing site" according to you, which negates the need for any debate. You seem to get your take on the issues from 'pro Muslim far left-wing ' websites which of course would have a different take, given that the interests of both tend to coincide a great deal.

Why not name your favorite website and we'll check out their take on Islam in Europe? The other poster was asked to do the same but of course will never respond.
 
Grant said:
Anything that can point to an Islamic movement is an "anti-Muslim far right wing site" according to you, which negates the need for any debate. You seem to get your take on the issues from 'pro Muslim far left-wing ' websites which of course would have a different take, given that the interests of both tend to coincide a great deal.

Why not name your favorite website and we'll check out their take on Islam in Europe? The other poster was asked to do the same but of course will never respond.
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um the web site you used did not show any story's about an attempt to establish sharia law

and the seeing eye dog story is not worse the what Christians have gotten up to when it come to refusing to serve people on the job
 
Grant said:
Anything that can point to an Islamic movement is an "anti-Muslim far right wing site" according to you, which negates the need for any debate.
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Dude... Do you even know what Dispatch International is?

Dispatch International

It is in Swedish, but google translate is your friend.

You seem to get your take on the issues from 'pro Muslim far left-wing ' websites which of course would have a different take, given that the interests of both tend to coincide a great deal.
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Hell no. I love history and see the same crap happening to Muslims around the world, that happened to Jews before 1933-9 in the world. That is where my objections come from.. and the utter ignorance in most people when it comes to Islam, and people from outside their own little back yard.

Why not name your favorite website and we'll check out their take on Islam in Europe? The other poster was asked to do the same but of course will never respond.
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What type of favorite website? Political? To be honest, not sure I have one favorite site. I form my own opinions based on viewing multiple sites from all political angles and understanding the historical, political and geo-political aspects of why each side is saying or doing what they are saying/doing.
 
blarg said:
um the web site you used did not show any story's about an attempt to establish sharia law
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What is your point here? Are you saying that Muslims aren't trying to establish shariah law in Europe? If you are truly interested in this movement you can just google and select the media of your choice.

But until you educate yourself on the subject there is little you can contribute to the conversation.
 
this site is trading 1 set of religious lunatics (and innocent Muslims ) for another

STOP ISLAM - How To Stop Islam

How do we stop Islam?

The ways to stop Islam include common sense measures as well as deeper introspection and commitments. Here are 5 ways to stop Islam's advance and aggression against us.

First, we need to stop funding Islam's expansion ourselves: stop being dependent on oil from the Islamic nations.

Second, we should allow Muslim imams as much access to our public schools, college campuses, armed forces and prisons as we would allow to any other group with ties to Hitler: none.

Third, we need to recognize the spiritual nature of this conflict and arm ourselves accordingly:

"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God." - Ephesians 6:12-17

Fourth, we need to use "the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God" to witness to Muslims in our schools, workplaces and neighborhoods, as well as in Muslim countries via online chats, websites, radio and cable/satellite programs, etc. and share the Gospel of Jesus with them.

Islam, which denies the atoning death, resurrection and deity of Christ, ultimately cannot be reconciled with Christianity. One or the other must give way. If Christians don't approach Muslims with the truth of the Bible, Islam will keep advancing across Europe, America and beyond.

Fifth, we need to realize that Islam or any other religion cannot penetrate where the body of Christ is strong. The entry and spread of Islam indicates a spiritual void where religiosity has replaced the True Gospel; Islam's advance is not the cause but a symptom of spiritual decay in the regions affected. Christians must repent, return to and sharpen their sword of the Holy Spirit.
 
Grant said:
What is your point here? Are you saying that Muslims aren't trying to establish shariah law in Europe? If you are truly interested in this movement you can just google and select the media of your choice.

But until you educate yourself on the subject there is little you can contribute to the conversation.
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ill need to check what it says about Europe but even the site has nothing for the usa
 
PeteEU said:
Dude... Do you even know what Dispatch International is?

Dispatch International

It is in Swedish, but google translate is your friend. Hell no. I love history and see the same crap happening to Muslims around the world, that happened to Jews before 1933-9 in the world. That is where my objections come from.. and the utter ignorance in most people when it comes to Islam, and people from outside their own little back yard. What type of favorite website? Political? To be honest, not sure I have one favorite site. I form my own opinions based on viewing multiple sites from all political angles and understanding the historical, political and geo-political aspects of why each side is saying or doing what they are saying/doing.
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So you have nothing. You could have edited your post down to that.
 
Grant said:
You mean it hasn't happened 'yet'. The Europeans are buckling under and Muslims know that. Any Europeans who protest against what's happening to their democracies are labelled 'right wing' and called racists, etc.

Europe will fall over the next 60 years or so and there is little that can be done to stop it..
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exact same argument was made about the mixed economies of Europe. They will buckle under the pressure of their social safety nets. Still waiting for that one to happen. My guess is we will be waiting forever for European states to fail based on Islamic law also.
 
smb said:
exact same argument was made about the mixed economies of Europe. They will buckle under the pressure of their social safety nets. Still waiting for that one to happen. My guess is we will be waiting forever for European states to fail based on Islamic law also.
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That's a common enough guess among those not familiar with demographics or the Islamist message.
 
Grant said:
That's a common enough guess among those not familiar with demographics or the Islamist message.
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Oh yes...because random anonymous internet guy has the super-secret inside information on the shifting demographics and "Islamist message" (whatever the hell that is supposed to mean). You know much better than the people studying or the leaders of those nations who decry the fear mongering bull**** being put out as racist/xenophobic crapola. But hey I guess we will all take your word for it.
 
smb said:
Oh yes...because random anonymous internet guy has the super-secret inside information on the shifting demographics and "Islamist message" (whatever the hell that is supposed to mean). You know much better than the people studying or the leaders of those nations who decry the fear mongering bull**** being put out as racist/xenophobic crapola. But hey I guess we will all take your word for it.
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There are no secrets. All you need do is read a book or two. Even a dictionary definition of 'demographics' might start you on your way.
 
Grant said:
There are no secrets. All you need do is read a book or two. Even a dictionary definition of 'demographics' might start you on your way.
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I know the definition of demographics. I also know that any notion that the Western European countries are being inundated with islamic immigration is nonsense. What about the super-secret "Islamist message" you are an expert on. Care to provide anything more than bull**** generalizations on either the demographic subject or the "Islamist message" you referenced. Details would be nice. Otherwise keep your inane generalizations to yourself.
 
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