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Cops kill cow after wild chase through Pocatello's north side

Jack Fabulous said:
Want substance?

Try biting into a nice juicy porterhouse. That'll give you all the substance the body needs.
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Yea, okay. If you don't want to debate then just stop posting. You're so indignant, but apparently you can't explain why.
 
Brother AJ said:
Yea, okay. If you don't want to debate then just stop posting. You're so indignant, but apparently you can't explain why.
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He is too busy eating red meat to debate.

Beef - it's what's for dinner.
 
sangha said:
Actually, the two are not entirely separate issues, at least, not on a farm. Intellectually, you can be reductionist about it and think about the two separately, but to the farmer it's the sum total of all the costs and all the benefits of something that determines if it is a sustainable practice. The farmer can't afford to look at only the money he's going to take in selling his birds for meat. If the birds can also reduce his need to purchase insecticides (because free-ranging the birds will reduce the insect population) for his veggie crops then the farmer has to take that into account or else he'll price the meat too high and drive down sales
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I tend to believe that it all should be advocated for simultaneously, but to be honest I don't currently see how we can use anything other than chemicals in agriculture to maintain our large population. I certainly don't think organic farming is currently able to sustain us. This shouldn't be a matter of what is economically viable for a chicken farmer. He's not justified in harming and exploiting these animals when there is no need to do so.
 
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Brother AJ said:
Yea... I've only heard that one a million times before. You trolls need more originality.
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Even Defensive Omnivore Bingo is more interesting than the trolling going on in this thread
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Brother AJ said:
I tend to believe that it all should advocated for simultaneously, but to be honest I don't currently see how we can use anything other than chemicals in agriculture to maintain our large population. I certainly don't think organic farming is currently able to sustain us. This shouldn't be a matter of what is economically viable for a chicken farmer. He's not justified in harming and exploiting these animals when there is no need to do so.
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I'm not just talking about chicken farmers. I'm talking about farmers in general.

Basically, if a practice isn't economically viable, then it's not sustainable. Farmers have to survive just like everyone else and if what they do for a living doesn't provide a living then they will not do it. If farmers don't do what they do, then how do we eat?

Hunting and gathering? That might work out in the sticks where I live, but I think people in the city will last very long.
 
Brother AJ said:
I tend to believe that it all should be advocated for simultaneously, but to be honest I don't currently see how we can use anything other than chemicals in agriculture to maintain our large population. I certainly don't think organic farming is currently able to sustain us. This shouldn't be a matter of what is economically viable for a chicken farmer. He's not justified in harming and exploiting these animals when there is no need to do so.
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Oh goodness, give it a rest. If you want to believe that rats are people too fine, but when i find one near my home i will kill it.

I posted this thread because I thought it was amazing that a 1000lb cow jumped a 6ft fence.

Although it is funny watching you melt down over a cow, now you are just repeating yourself, and it's quite boring.
 
Brother AJ said:
I tend to believe that it all should be advocated for simultaneously, but to be honest I don't currently see how we can use anything other than chemicals in agriculture to maintain our large population. I certainly don't think organic farming is currently able to sustain us. This shouldn't be a matter of what is economically viable for a chicken farmer. He's not justified in harming and exploiting these animals when there is no need to do so.
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Actually they have every right.

Animals only goal is just to be economically viable - and also tasty.
 
j-mac said:
Oh goodness, give it a rest. If you want to believe that rats are people too fine, but when i find one near my home i will kill it.

I posted this thread because I thought it was amazing that a 1000lb cow jumped a 6ft fence.

Although it is funny watching you melt down over a cow, now you are just repeating yourself, and it's quite boring.
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If you were in the line to be executed, you would probably be able to jump over a 6ft fence also.
 
sangha said:
I'm not just talking about chicken farmers. I'm talking about farmers in general.

Basically, if a practice isn't economically viable, then it's not sustainable. Farmers have to survive just like everyone else and if what they do for a living doesn't provide a living then they will not do it. If farmers don't do what they do, then how do we eat?

Hunting and gathering? That might work out in the sticks where I live, but I think people in the city will last very long.
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Well, as far as I know the majority of farmers that provide our produce already use chemicals because TO NOT do so would not be economically viable. I'm aware that these farmers also use animal manure, not because it is the only fertilizer available but because it's convenient since we can already get it from the animals we slaughter. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. If we're talking about small farmers, they are hardly able to provide everyone with food in the first place.

j-mac said:
Oh goodness, give it a rest. If you want to believe that rats are people too fine, but when i find one near my home i will kill it.

I posted this thread because I thought it was amazing that a 1000lb cow jumped a 6ft fence.

Although it is funny watching you melt down over a cow, now you are just repeating yourself, and it's quite boring.
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Well actually, the two of us are managing to have a fairly decent conversation. It's a hell of a lot better than you all making ridiculous jokes about tasty animals and mocking the cow's suffering.
 
SMTA said:
What!? You will eat Thumper?
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Not Thumper because he was animated and I don't think the paint would be too tasty.

Rabbits need to be eaten or we all die.
 
Brother AJ said:
Well, as far as I know the majority of farmers that provide our produce already use chemicals because TO NOT do so would not be economically viable. I'm aware that these farmers also use animal manure, not because it is the only fertilizer available but because it's convenient since we can already get it from the animals we slaughter. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. If we're talking about small farmers, they are hardly able to provide everyone with food in the first place.


Well actually, the two of us are managing to have a fairly decent conversation. It's a hell of a lot better than you all making ridiculous jokes about tasty animals and mocking the cow's suffering.
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No one is mocking the cow.

Are you now channeling the cow's feelings?
 
imagep said:
If you were in the line to be executed, you would probably be able to jump over a 6ft fence also.
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So tell how you know that the cow knew? Do you speak with them?
 
j-mac said:
Oh goodness, give it a rest. If you want to believe that rats are people too fine, but when i find one near my home i will kill it.

I posted this thread because I thought it was amazing that a 1000lb cow jumped a 6ft fence.

Although it is funny watching you melt down over a cow, now you are just repeating yourself, and it's quite boring.
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It's not at all uncommon for a 1000 pound animal to be able to jump a fence. The average show jumper (horse) is 1200 pounds and the record for the highest jump by a horse with a rider on its back is over 8 feet.

Horses carrying a 150 pound human can easily clear a 6 foot jump.
 
Brother AJ said:
Well, as far as I know the majority of farmers that provide our produce already use chemicals because TO NOT do so would not be economically viable. I'm aware that these farmers also use animal manure, not because it is the only fertilizer available but because it's convenient since we can already get it from the animals we slaughter. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. If we're talking about small farmers, they are hardly able to provide everyone with food in the first place.


Well actually, the two of us are managing to have a fairly decent conversation. It's a hell of a lot better than you all making ridiculous jokes about tasty animals and mocking the cow's suffering.
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Oh, I'm shedding a tear.
 
j-mac said:
So tell how you know that the cow knew? Do you speak with them?
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Depends on where he was in the processing line. They smell the blood and know quite well that something is wrong. Fear is a powerful motivator for any animal. Cows will flee from what they perceive to be a threat.
 
tres borrachos said:
It's not at all uncommon for a 1000 pound animal to be able to jump a fence. The average show jumper (horse) is 1200 pounds and the record for the highest jump by a horse with a rider on its back is over 8 feet.

Horses carrying a 150 pound human can easily clear a 6 foot jump.
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It depends upon the animal.

Horses are much more athletic than cows.

It's not just the weight of the animal, but the skeletal and muscle structure.

We eat cows because they run much slower.....
 
SMTA said:
It depends upon the animal.

Horses are much more athletic than cows.

It's not just the weight of the animal, but the skeletal and muscle structure.

We eat cows because they run much slower.....
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I think we eat cows because they are primarily bred for food and dairy. Horses aren't bred for food (in this country).
 
clownboy said:
Throw in Bambi too. MMMMMMMMM
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And feral hog. Just about anything fed in its natural environment, is going to be superior to farm-raised food, as far as nutrition goes. With deer, though, it's does only- no stinky bucks. :lol:
 
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