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UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

They tortured. What they did is by definition torture. You read that in the links above. It's not feelings. It's measuring actions against codified law.
The law disagrees, the lawyers disagree and the DOJ disagrees. You therefore have nothing to go on but your feelings, and immature feelings at that.
 
Have you ever had to make a decision that required legal advice? Bush got the legal advice and took action. You don't like the action and in this country you are innocent until proven guilty not vice versa. You can indict a ham sandwich or bring any kind of suit you want. The outcome however is what matters and Democrats let the issue slide something you refuse to accept. You can believe what you want until hell freezes over but that is meaningless.

I've never been president, but I've made decisions. And as medic and paramedic, I've made life and death decisions. If I'm educated, and know torture is ineffective, which I am and do, then there is no logical reason to break the law to do it. And no, Bush was told, someone linked it somewhere, that torture was ineffective. He chose to ignore the advice.
 
The law disagrees, the lawyers disagree and the DOJ disagrees. You therefore have nothing to go on but your feelings, and immature feelings at that.

No, white house council disagrees. That's not the same as the law. And they had to torture language to start with, trying to make torture seem like something else. So, the above attempt at avoidance aside, you have not addressed the law.
 
I've never been president, but I've made decisions. And as medic and paramedic, I've made life and death decisions. If I'm educated, and know torture is ineffective, which I am and do, then there is no logical reason to break the law to do it. And no, Bush was told, someone linked it somewhere, that torture was ineffective. He chose to ignore the advice.

Still waiting for the law that was broken when using waterboarding on terrorists? You definition of torture is your opinion. As I have stated before since Clinton argued the definition of "is" I am arguing that waterboarding isn't torture. Seems a lot of people agree with me including the following

Waterboarding Is Not Torture by Joseph Farah on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

You people have really gone off the deep end. Wonder what actions you would have authorized if a terrorist knew the time and place of a bomb in your home town and in your neighborhood. You seem afraid to answer the question.
 
Still waiting for the law that was broken when using waterboarding on terrorists? You definition of torture is your opinion. As I have stated before since Clinton argued the definition of "is" I am arguing that waterboarding isn't torture. Seems a lot of people agree with me including the following

Waterboarding Is Not Torture by Joseph Farah on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

You people have really gone off the deep end. Wonder what actions you would have authorized if a terrorist knew the time and place of a bomb in your home town and in your neighborhood. You seem afraid to answer the question.

Waterboarding isn't the only issue. Read this:

Why Sleep Deprivation Is Torture | Psychology Today

However, no matter who you quote, we've prosecuted both foreigners and American soldiers for waterwaterboardning in the past. However, if it's quoting folks you want:

. . . . McCain said he was “Very disappointed by statements at SC GOP debate supporting waterboarding. Waterboarding is torture.”

McCain: "Waterboarding is Torture" | Care2 Causes

But then again, he's merely a veteran who has been tortured. Surely not anything republicans would care about. Let's try someone else:

“It was well said—by Jean Tarrou in The Plague, I think—that attendance at lectures in an unknown language will help to hone one's awareness of the exceedingly slow passage of time. I once had the experience of being 'waterboarded' and can now dimly appreciate how much every second counts in the experience of the torture victim, forced to go on enduring what is unendurable.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Hitch-22: A Memoir

Quotes About Waterboarding (6 quotes)

There's just no doubt in my mind - under any set of rules - water boarding is torture. -- Tom Ridge

Torture Quotes Page 4 - BrainyQuote

And of course there are studies and the like that support me as well:

http://www.cgu.edu/pdffiles/sbos/costanzo_effects_of_interrogation.pdf

Is Waterboarding Torture? | waterboarding.org
 
Blah, blah, --my poor delicate psyche has been damaged--weep for me! Those jihadists bastards are damned lucky they got off as easy as they did. They should have been sent to hell a long time ago, at the end of a rope.
 
Blah, blah, --my poor delicate psyche has been damaged--weep for me! Those jihadists bastards are damned lucky they got off as easy as they did. They should have been sent to hell a long time ago, at the end of a rope.

Again, we did this on 26 innocent people, not Jihadist. One, maybe two, died. So, what you support is doing this to innocent people.
 
Again, we did this on 26 innocent people, not Jihadist. One, maybe two, died. So, what you support is doing this to innocent people.

Prove it. The SOB's were guilty as sin, and to hell with them. Good riddance.
 
Prove what? The report is there for all to read. 26 innocent people.

The report by Democrats which spent millions and didn't even do a proper investigation? And you believe it???

You can really fool some of the people all of the time!!
 
Waterboarding isn't the only issue. Read this:

Why Sleep Deprivation Is Torture | Psychology Today

However, no matter who you quote, we've prosecuted both foreigners and American soldiers for waterwaterboardning in the past. However, if it's quoting folks you want:

. . . . McCain said he was “Very disappointed by statements at SC GOP debate supporting waterboarding. Waterboarding is torture.”

McCain: "Waterboarding is Torture" | Care2 Causes

But then again, he's merely a veteran who has been tortured. Surely not anything republicans would care about. Let's try someone else:

“It was well said—by Jean Tarrou in The Plague, I think—that attendance at lectures in an unknown language will help to hone one's awareness of the exceedingly slow passage of time. I once had the experience of being 'waterboarded' and can now dimly appreciate how much every second counts in the experience of the torture victim, forced to go on enduring what is unendurable.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Hitch-22: A Memoir

Quotes About Waterboarding (6 quotes)

There's just no doubt in my mind - under any set of rules - water boarding is torture. -- Tom Ridge

Torture Quotes Page 4 - BrainyQuote

And of course there are studies and the like that support me as well:

http://www.cgu.edu/pdffiles/sbos/costanzo_effects_of_interrogation.pdf

Is Waterboarding Torture? | waterboarding.org

All this was done, IF DONE on foreign soil to people who were not part of any recognized govt. or country of the world thus not party to the Geneva Convention. Are you ever going to answer the question, what actions would you take against someone who knew the location and time of a bomb going off in your community that would kill your family>
 
The prohibition against torture is firmly embedded in customary international law, international treaties signed by the United States, and in U.S. law.


Then why didn't Holder find anything to prosecute?
 
All this was done, IF DONE on foreign soil to people who were not part of any recognized govt. or country of the world thus not party to the Geneva Convention. Are you ever going to answer the question, what actions would you take against someone who knew the location and time of a bomb going off in your community that would kill your family>

I've asked him before, over and over....the best I can figure is he would let them die.
 
I've asked him before, over and over....the best I can figure is he would let them die.

You Jack Bauer wannabes just cannot get your heads out of the TV drama mode. :roll:
 
What crime did Holder indict?

That he didn't indict any at all is testimony to his moral turpitude.

IMO, that is obvious, considering his behavior in Fast 'n Furious.
 
You Jack Bauer wannabes just cannot get your heads out of the TV drama mode. :roll:

How about answering the question or do you ever think about your own family and what would happen if they are in danger? I cannot believe how naïve liberals really are and how bad things can never happen to them. Too many are just like you believing the rest of the world thinks exactly like you do and has the same values. I am sure those dead bodies dangling on the bridge in Fallujah or Daniel Pearl's head on a tray went right over your head.

These people performing acts of terror aren't covered under the Geneva Convention nor should they be treated as human beings. Too bad you don't understand reality.
 
How about answering the question or do you ever think about your own family and what would happen if they are in danger? I cannot believe how naïve liberals really are and how bad things can never happen to them. Too many are just like you believing the rest of the world thinks exactly like you do and has the same values. I am sure those dead bodies dangling on the bridge in Fallujah or Daniel Pearl's head on a tray went right over your head.

These people performing acts of terror aren't covered under the Geneva Convention nor should they be treated as human beings. Too bad you don't understand reality.

Quite a few humans these days are "performing acts of terror". You guys seem oblivious to all those doing it EXCEPT for the arab variety.
 
Quite a few humans these days are "performing acts of terror". You guys seem oblivious to all those doing it EXCEPT for the arab variety.

Yet you never answer the question posed, what actions would you support to get information out of someone who knew the exact location and timing for an explosive device that would like members of your family? You give these animals way too much credit as if they are human. What country do they represent? When did they sign the Geneva Convention? What kind of person chops off the head of another, flies planes into buildings, blows themselves up in crowded restaurants? You want us to ask them kindly over coffee what their next plan is?
 
The report by Democrats which spent millions and didn't even do a proper investigation? And you believe it???

You can really fool some of the people all of the time!!

Like everything, you overstate the flaws. The 26 is not disputed.
 
All this was done, IF DONE on foreign soil to people who were not part of any recognized govt. or country of the world thus not party to the Geneva Convention. Are you ever going to answer the question, what actions would you take against someone who knew the location and time of a bomb going off in your community that would kill your family>

Which means noting. Read the law again.
 
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