Moral ground was lost decades ago.
Does anyone actually believe that the tor.. I mean "enhanced interrogation techniques" ended with the election of the new president?
I suppose they must. Some people will believe almost anything.
Here's the point:
The torture report released Tuesday by the Senate Intelligence Committee says the CIA deceived the nation with its insistence that the harsh interrogation tactics had saved lives. It says those claims are unsubstantiated by the CIA’s own records.
Senate report: Harsh CIA tactics didn't work | The Rundown | PBS NewsHour
Whine about left and right all you want, the point is still the point.
that's a possibility. Gruber was testifying on Capital Hill this morning and that was hot news. That is until Fienstien took over.
Haven't we really known about torture all along?
And, won't it still be denied in some camps?
The only thing to do is to condemn it.
Here's the point:
The torture report released Tuesday by the Senate Intelligence Committee says the CIA deceived the nation with its insistence that the harsh interrogation tactics had saved lives. It says those claims are unsubstantiated by the CIA’s own records.
Senate report: Harsh CIA tactics didn't work | The Rundown | PBS NewsHour
Whine about left and right all you want, the point is still the point.
Would we honestly know if it worked or not? There is really no telling. It is the CIA. Number one rule: don't get caught. Number 2: don't write it down if you don't want someone to know.
Would the CIA say so, are there others?
Did they give a location of this detention facility?Moreover what about those who live there that helped us to deal with them? Think they have moved away from their homes?
Trying to answer a question with another question is not working soo much.
Did they give a location of this detention facility?
Also doing some simple digging the place known as the "Salt Pit" or "COBALT" was known as the "Dark Prison" by former captives and has been defunct. So no, its not an active prison. "CIA custody in what was known as the Salt Pit, a now-defunct secret detention center at Kabul airport also sometimes called "The Dark Prison" by former captives." Justice probing CIA in deaths of 2 detainees | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Yeah, but what are the networks going to carry? That which would embarrass Obamacare? Or their old favorite whipping boy?
Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation amid warnings of backlash | Fox News
A Democrat-led Senate panel released a scathing report Tuesday on CIA interrogation practices amid warnings from lawmakers and some within the Obama administration that the findings could "endanger the lives of Americans" all over the world.
Ah, the left. Politics above all.
Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation amid warnings of backlash | Fox News
A Democrat-led Senate panel released a scathing report Tuesday on CIA interrogation practices amid warnings from lawmakers and some within the Obama administration that the findings could "endanger the lives of Americans" all over the world.
Ah, the left. Politics above all.
FWIW, the full report can be found at: http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/study2014/sscistudy1.pdf
Because we are too stuborn as a country to recognise international law.
You're not, our representatives are.
The perspective of conservatives on this report is that is completely unreliable due to it's polical bias.It's irrelevant that the CIA lied to Congress...the Commander and Chief about the effectiveness and use of torture? Oh...to cap it off it leaked sensitive information to reporters misstating the usefulness of intel gained through torture?
Gotta love the perspective of your "freedom" loving Conservatives on this report.
So a article from 2011 was wrong? Do you have any information to say the facility is still open? Or is it all your speculation?Yeah its not an active prison. :roll: .....
Based off the article I just linked the facility has been closed at least since 2011... So who would move if no one is there at that site?are you that far behind in thinking that the CIA and our people wouldn't move.
The center of Kabul airport?Or use old locations they once held.
Cool. Kabul is a big place.Yet are still in Kabul.
Since a site was closed then released its code name, and nickname, and its location. It was actually released in 2011 as I linked. Whats the big whoop?What you can't figure out the CIA and the Afghans have other locations they are working out of that area and are suspected?
Well this site was released in 2011 and its at the center of a airport which is essentially a giant military base...You wouldn't think at all about how validation of where a location was given. Would lead to some searching around.....huh.
No. Just saying that the place was revealed in 2011 and was closed. Going back to my original question which was: "Is is it still used by the CIA?", that answer being: "No it was closed at least since 2011".I'll bet you thought AQ and the Taliban gave up looking. Didn't you?
Left?
How is a JOINT report of Democrats AND Republicans, who are right leftist?
That is so much vacuous bull**** and spin the reason the inept dolts in the Republican party cannot get the best of the worst president in modern history.
Abuse and torture is neither left nor right, it's simply barbarian
Yeah, go ahead ignore all that. But realize you have been at war for nearly 15 years and the situation is worse than when you decided to "kill them if they run". 15 years and a few hundred thousand American lives lost...
You know what, you are so right. Now, let's shut down all our police departments since they have arrested the wrong person in the past. Your logic is just so hard to resist. Come back when you've got some sleep, you can do better than this.And how many Mahar Arars have there been? An innocent man systematically sodomized and tortured on a daily basis by America's "friends" in Syria after having been "renditioned" by the CIA. They had the wrong man.
Yep, that's me.You're worse than Obama's followers
False. What was released today was the declassified Democratic Majority Executive summary of the 6000 page report, an entirely partisan digest of the full report.
The minority summary of the 6000 page report has not been released.
Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation amid warnings of backlash | Fox News
A Democrat-led Senate panel released a scathing report Tuesday on CIA interrogation practices amid warnings from lawmakers and some within the Obama administration that the findings could "endanger the lives of Americans" all over the world.
Ah, the left. Politics above all.
The perspective of conservatives on this report is that is completely unreliable due to it's polical bias.
The efficacy of interrogation is beyond question. I guess in liberal moonbatville, suspects never give up information under duress.