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Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

Dittohead not! said:
Yeppers, it's still being denied. Call it by another name, and it's all A- OK.
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Actually its the opposite of that, it was a perfectly okay practice 10 years ago now being called another named and condemned
 
Boo Radley said:
Here's the point:

The torture report released Tuesday by the Senate Intelligence Committee says the CIA deceived the nation with its insistence that the harsh interrogation tactics had saved lives. It says those claims are unsubstantiated by the CIA’s own records.

Senate report: Harsh CIA tactics didn't work | The Rundown | PBS NewsHour

Whine about left and right all you want, the point is still the point.
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Shouldn't former CIA chiefs have been interviewed for the report?
Your link said they claim the practices did save lives.
 
ocean515 said:
So, if the report proves the CIA did unspeakable things, what should happen next? What should the Obama Administration do?
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If you've been watching Gruber testify you'd know they're doing it contemporaneously with that.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
The only thing to do is to condemn it.
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Yes a legion of John Kerrys who supported before they were against it, this has nothing to do with morals but political climate. Another major terror attack on US soil and the bleeding hearts will jump right back on the enhanced interrogation bandwagon. If it was really wrong they would have took a stand a decade ago, doing so now only shows the shallow and partisan nature of their crusade.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Hand the people responsible over to the international court at the Hauge.
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Also, if I recall, the ICC is not recognized by the United States. Why would the US send people to a court it doesn't recognize, or is not a member of?
 
Crovax said:
Yes a legion of John Kerrys who supported before they were against it, this has nothing to do with morals but political climate. Another major terror attack on US soil and the bleeding hearts will jump right back on the enhanced interrogation bandwagon. If it was really wrong they would have took a stand a decade ago, doing so now only shows the shallow and partisan nature of their crusade.
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For all we know the next terrorist attack will be commited by some one who is angry at our torture program and became a terrorist to avenge those who have been tortured.
 
bubbabgone said:
If you've been watching Gruber testify you'd know they're doing it contemporaneously with that.
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I haven't been watching Bubba, but I have caught a headline or two. And it seems abundantly obvious the two events have been coordinated for effect.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Enhanced interrogation is not justified in any of the accords of the Geneva convention.
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Yes it is the Geneva convention only provides protections to lawful combatants, terrorists are considered unlawful combatants
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
The u.s should hand over the responsible people to face justice at the Hauge because torture is a crime againist humanity.
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I posted later that the US is not a member of the ICC. Why would they hand over citizens to a court it doesn't recognize?
 
Anthony60 said:
Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation amid warnings of backlash | Fox News

A Democrat-led Senate panel released a scathing report Tuesday on CIA interrogation practices amid warnings from lawmakers and some within the Obama administration that the findings could "endanger the lives of Americans" all over the world.

Ah, the left. Politics above all.
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It is important to learn things like this though -- the C.I.A. has run amok before. But this instance it involves the President, the White House, the NSC, Congress, the Director of National Intelligence, the Director of Central Intelligence and the C.I.A. Inspector General being purposely mislead. If you don't see the problem with that, then, well, I really don't know what to say...
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
For all we know the next terrorist attack will be commited by some one who is angry at our torture program and became a terrorist to avenge those who have been tortured.
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Or they are mad because a cartoonist drew Muhammad, or a million other things, Islamic extremists will use any excuse or even none at all to commit terror attacks. You are as naive as Chamberlain if you think appeasing them will magically make them not hate us.
 
Crovax said:
The senate didnt interview anyone who was involved with the enhanced interrogation program, so there is no basis to say whether it did or didnt save lives.
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They had access to the results. That's enough.
 
Jango said:
It is important to learn things like this though -- the C.I.A. has run amok before. But this instance it involves the President, the White House, the NSC, Congress, the Director of National Intelligence, the Director of Central Intelligence and the C.I.A. Inspector General being purposely mislead. If you don't see the problem with that, then, well, I really don't know what to say...
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If it involves all those people how come none of them were interviewed for the report?
 
Crovax said:
Yes a legion of John Kerrys who supported before they were against it, this has nothing to do with morals but political climate. Another major terror attack on US soil and the bleeding hearts will jump right back on the enhanced interrogation bandwagon. If it was really wrong they would have took a stand a decade ago, doing so now only shows the shallow and partisan nature of their crusade.
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Greetings, Crovax. :2wave:

:agree: Good point you made about how quickly minds change when it's no longer abstract, but in your face and personal! :thumbs:
 
Crovax said:
Or they are mad because a cartoonist drew Muhammad, or a million other things, Islamic extremists will use any excuse or even none at all to commit terror attacks. You are as naive as Chamberlain if you think appeasing them will magically make them not hate us.
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Every act of torture spits on the grave of the victims of terrorism.

We have commited acts that proove we are just as barbaric as any terrorist.

If the governments won't bring the torturers to justice, maybe someone else will.
 
Boo Radley said:
They had access to the results. That's enough.
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So interviewing key witnesses isnt necessary, you would make an awesome judge, well until they they threw you in prison
 
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