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Glenn Beck must face Saudi's lawsuit over Boston Marathon bombing

Paleocon said:
Beck has self-identified as a classical liberal.
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Please stop trying to make this a thing. It wasn't and never will be. Just a buzz word for a few people. The rest of the world knows what it means when it says liberal. You and your types are the only ones trying to change it and frankly it's a waste of time.
 
jmotivator said:
I think the guy has a good case against Beck. I expect the settlement would be somewhere in the neighborhood of what Richard Jewell got from NBC when Tom Brokaw went on the air and said that the FBI was close to arresting Jewell for the Atlanta Olympics bombing.
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Richard Jewell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Even though NBC stood by its story, the network agreed to pay Jewell $500,000.[9]
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On July 23, 1997, Jewell sued The New York Post for $15 million in damages, contending that the paper portrayed him in articles, photographs and an editorial cartoon as an "aberrant" person with a "bizarre employment history" who was probably guilty of the bombing.[13] He eventually settled with the newspaper for an undisclosed amount.[14]
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Jewell filed suit against his former employer Piedmont College, Piedmont College President Raymond Cleere and college spokesman Scott Rawles.[9] Jewell's attorneys contended that Cleere called the FBI and spoke to the Atlanta newspapers, providing them with false information on Jewell and his employment there as a security guard. Jewell's lawsuit accused Cleere of describing Jewell as a "badge-wearing zealot" who "would write epic police reports for minor infractions."[1]
Piedmont College settled for an undisclosed amount.[11]
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Although CNN settled with Jewell for an undisclosed monetary amount, CNN maintained its coverage was fair and accurate.[18]
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Seems like he made out with a bit of money. Probably more than he would have earned during what was left of his life. If everything goes right for this kid, he's got his education completely paid for.
 
Paleocon said:
Beck has self-identified as a classical liberal.
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IF this still goes to court, it will hinge on whether the reports made by Beck were credible based on the available information. It is very unlikely that Alharbi can prevail. My guess is this is push for a settlement.
 
Hamster Buddha said:
I never said you are forcing people to "convert", I said that you a forcing "religious ideas" on those who do not believe. The difference is that, while you may not be forcing them into the pews on Sunday morning, but making it a religious state, what you are doing are forcing them to live by laws that are purely religious in nature. The only reason, someone would pass a law to deny homosexuals the ability to marry is purely on religious grounds. There's no threat to you or your families livelihood there. It's not hurting anyone for two people to say they love you and want to be with each for the rest of their lives.

Just as it is wrong when some ME country wants to stone women for infidelity, or not having their face covered in public, it's wrong for a Christian nation to deny gays the ability to marry based on nothing but religious dogma.
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I don't believe I've ever made an argument against gay marriage based on religion on this forum. I may be forgetting one or two times, but for the most part it's been all natural law. Of course, if a religion is true, it is a valid basis for law.

ModerateGOP said:
Please stop trying to make this a thing. It wasn't and never will be. Just a buzz word for a few people. The rest of the world knows what it means when it says liberal. You and your types are the only ones trying to change it and frankly it's a waste of time.
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I can't help it if you're ignorant.

American said:
Dude :roll: Classical Liberalism is not modern liberalism.
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It's the predecessor to modern liberalism.
 
Paleocon said:
I don't believe I've ever made an argument against gay marriage based on religion on this forum. I may be forgetting one or two times, but for the most part it's been all natural law. Of course, if a religion is true, it is a valid basis for law.



I can't help it if you're ignorant.



It's the predecessor to modern liberalism.
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You need to read up on that, you are WRONG.
 
American said:
You need to read up on that, you are WRONG.
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Which is ridiculous. The basic principle of liberalism, that government exists to preserve freedom, is the same. It's just that for the classical liberals, that was freedom from having to pay their workers a decent wage or from having to refrain from blaspheming God, for modern liberals it's freedom to kill children and have their employer pay for their contraception.
 
Paleocon said:
Which is ridiculous. The basic principle of liberalism, that government exists to preserve freedom, is the same. It's just that for the classical liberals, that was freedom from having to pay their workers a decent wage or from having to refrain from blaspheming God, for modern liberals it's freedom to kill children and have their employer pay for their contraception.
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:roll:
 
Paleocon said:
If you roll your eyes at reality that's your problem.
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Dude, you're ****ing clueless about classical liberalism. Now once you know something about it, you come talk to me. It is for small limited govt, dude. Get a clue.
 
American said:
Dude, you're ****ing clueless about classical liberalism. Now once you know something about it, you come talk to me. It is for small limited govt, dude. Get a clue.
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The Committee on Public Safety sure was the epitome of small government, wasn't it?
 
Erod said:
No, but the raving liberals publishing information about the Ferguson officer's marriage, address, etc? They'd have a party if he was found and murdered.
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How is that defamation?
 
Paleocon said:
I don't believe I've ever made an argument against gay marriage based on religion on this forum. I may be forgetting one or two times, but for the most part it's been all natural law. Of course, if a religion is true, it is a valid basis for law.
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Natural Law? What? You want to deny someone the same privileges you have because... nature?
 
Hamster Buddha said:
Natural Law? What? You want to deny someone the same privileges you have because... nature?
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1. I don't have the "right" to "marry" a person of the same gender.

2. "True law is right reason in agreement with nature"
 
lizzie said:
Interesting. I hadn't heard of this, and would be interested in checking into the allegations, and seeing the outcome. Thanks for the info and link.
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I hadn't heard of it either. May be a case of conservatives suppressing bad news against one of their champions. Fox "News" certainly hasn't reported it from what I've seen.
 
Paleocon said:
Please at least try to have some idea what you're talking about before posting.

I'm talking about human nature.
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Oh i'm sorry, I didn't realise you held to the rather ancient belief in regards to H. Sapiens' place in nature. You know the one that says Man is to rule over all the animals and the earth because some deity told us so.
 
sangha said:
And North Korea has self-identified as "democratic"
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Are you saying he's not a classical liberal?

Somerville said:
Oh i'm sorry, I didn't realise you held to the rather ancient belief in regards to H. Sapiens' place in nature. You know the one that says Man is to rule over all the animals and the earth because some deity told us so.
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That is correct, although I'm not sure what the connection between man's dominion over the Earth and the nature of the human sexual faculty have to do with each other.
 
Somerville said:
Well then -- same sex attraction is "in agreement with nature" -- Same-sex behavior seen in nearly all animals but what does this have to do with the topic of this thread
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Paleocon said:
1. I don't have the "right" to "marry" a person of the same gender.

2. "True law is right reason in agreement with nature"
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First off, are you trying to argue that the people who are homosexual aren't sexually attracted to the same gender? And by the way, I never used the word "right", and that was purposeful. Heterosexual couples enjoy many legal benefits from the government. Those as the PRIVILEGES that I was referring to, which if we are to provide for one, in fairness we must provide for the other.
 
Kobie said:
Raving liberals like ... Glenn Beck?
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Yes.

Hamster Buddha said:
First off, are you trying to argue that the people who are homosexual aren't sexually attracted to the same gender? And by the way, I never used the word "right", and that was purposeful. Heterosexual couples enjoy many legal benefits from the government. Those as the PRIVILEGES that I was referring to, which if we are to provide for one, in fairness we must provide for the other.
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No, I didn't say they aren't attracted to members of their own gender. I say that sexual behavior between same gender people violates the natural purpose of the human sexual faculty.

While many civil benefits of marriage are privileges, marriage itself is a right. It is a right by natural law, and is such subject to that law.
 
Paleocon said:
Good. Raving liberals in the media have to learn that they can't just go around slandering people.
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[record scratch]

Glenn Beck is as much a liberal as I am Mr. Universe.
 
Paleocon said:
Good. Raving liberals in the media have to learn that they can't just go around slandering people.
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Funniest think I've seen in a while- talk about knee- jerk reaction...
 
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