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Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

I don't agree with the extent the Patriot act covered mainly because it didn't go to the root cause. There were mosques in this country who provided support for the 9-11 terrorists and others who committed acts of violence here.

and are these the same people?
 
It's fun to watch self proclaimed atheists who spend their time trolling Christians defend Islam in today's climate as though freedom of religion really means anything to them to begin with.

Islam sucks but so do a lot of religions most atheist don't want to ban religion and would defend people who want to build a church in the same way
 
No. God already revealed which religion is true, so the government has discretion to decide to what degree false religions will be suppressed.

:funny
 
The way you are acting one would think that you are trying to lump all Muslims together.
The way I am acting? Go with what I say, okay? But yes, in some instances all Muslims can be lumped together because, in Islam, they usually share commonly held beliefs.
Most Muslims don't do or support those things. For someone claiming to bot be lumping all Muslims together you seem to think that the group as a whole do those things.
I seem to think??? The words are in front of you and you can respond to them, okay? Please ignore whatever senses try to tell you what I 'seem to think'. And yes, I understand 'most' Muslims don't support terrorism, for example, but a significant number do, and that totals many millions. Not all Germans wanted to murder Jews either, but we know what happened when a a determined enough group took control.
1.Again it is not their job to protest the whackos.
Why not? Others protest the negative activities of whatever group they belong to or leave. Of course Muslims can be murdered if they leave 'the faith' but if they are cowards then they shouldn't complain when people lump them all together.
2.Just like Christianity and every other religion on the planet there are other denominations of Islam.
Yes, there are two main branches but it is still Islam. No one hesitates to criticize other religions if they are doing wrong and Islam should be no different.
People such as yourself are trying to demonize all Muslims.Of course they are say you are being an Islamophobe. If you were running around saying most Catholics molest little kids or support molesting little kids then Catholics would call you are anti-Catholic bigot or some other similar term.
Some Catholic priests were molesting children and there was an outrage about it. No one defended the Catholics as a consequence and if they did they would be laughed at. They would certainly not be called 'Catholicophobes' for being critical of those molestations, yet that this the silliness of many Muslims.The fact is that Muslims are shooting little girls through the head if they dare go to school, they have sent little girls into burning buildings because they lacked the 'proper' dress, as well as giving them clitorectomies. They are hanging gays in the public square, murdering women being accused of adultery, and your concern is that I'm Islamophobic??? Can you not see how ridiculous this is? Of course Muslims should be criticized for the behavior of other Muslims or they will naturally all be lumped together.
For someone claiming you didn't say all Muslims are going along with the crazies you seem bent on trying to paint the whole group as crazies.
Islam appears to be the most ignorant religion in the world and i have yet to see anyone point out any good it has done anywhere. All we see is damage wherever it is instituted. But maybe I'm wrong! You can certainly point out any errors but you seem more determined to question me or my motives rather than discussing the religion. That's part of the reason why Muslims often don't get a great deal of respect.
 
since all the terrorists are living in the community any way why not

since their probably not terrorists that's just kind of stupid any way you look at it
It was wise to add 'probably'.
 
that sounds horrible but it starts with Muslims or with people of any faith who want their faith to rule over others a building doesn't change anything

We never see non-Muslim people imposing their religion on others.
 
No one said ALL Muslims go along with the crazies but a significant number of them do, adding up to many millions. I would not be associated with any group which abused women, little girs, gays, and so on.
Uhh, are you talking about Muslims or Catholics?

If Muslims don't march in the streets to protest this sort of behavior than naturally they'll be lumped together. Instead they protest about 'islamophobia'. What's to respect about Islam or its followers? Maybe you can tell me.
Are you required to march in the streets to avoid being lumped in with extremists?
 
Uhh, are you talking about Muslims or Catholics?
Why this continued confusion? Just look to the top of the page and you'll see the topic under discussion. If you are still having problems contact the Mods and they'll explain it to you again.
Are you required to march in the streets to avoid being lumped in with extremists?
No. There are a variety of ways. Perhaps you can think of a few.
 
Why this continued confusion? Just look to the top of the page and you'll see the topic under discussion. If you are still having problems contact the Mods and they'll explain it to you again.
No. There are a variety of ways. Perhaps you can think of a few.

So only Muslims need to march in the streets, got it.
 
All you are doing is trying to lump in all Muslims with the handful of crazies out there. Not all Muslims subscribe to those things you mentioned

When it comes to Muslims, it's hard to determine who the lunatics are and who isn't.
 
Islam is political system and a religion.

An islamic purist cannot seperate them. So any society that values, human rights, democracy, moral values and intelligence will not allow these people in anymore than they would allow Black Mambas and rabid dogs into their homes.
 
When it comes to Muslims, it's hard to determine who the lunatics are and who isn't.

Islam is political system and a religion.

An islamic purist cannot seperate them. So any society that values, human rights, democracy, moral values and intelligence will not allow these people in anymore than they would allow Black Mambas and rabid dogs into their homes.

Both of these posts work equally well with any religion.
 
Both of these posts work equally well with any religion.

Islam isn't the worst religion--there have been worse:

Thuggies, Aztecs, Comanches. Hunnics (like Atilla) and Shamanists (like Genghis Khan).

But these weren't much worse than Islam. only a little.
 
The way you are acting one would think that you are trying to lump all Muslims together.
The 21st Century's #1 Strawman: "ALL Muslims are terrorists."


Jamesrage said:

Most Muslims don't do or support those things. For someone claiming to bot be lumping all Muslims together you seem to think that the group as a whole do those things.
Most Muslims support Sharia Law including it's Barbaric penalties for Adultery, Apostasy, Theft, Homosexuality, and other's like "insulting Islam" or the 'prophet'.
(see Pew et al)

Jamesrage said:
..such as yourself are trying to demonize all Muslims. Of course they are say you are being an Islamophobe. If you were running around saying most Catholics molest little kids or support molesting little kids then Catholics would call you are anti-Catholic bigot or some other similar term.
Significant minorities of Muslims (NOT 'just a few bad apples') support things like suicide bombing.
How many Catholics support child molestation?
Let's stick to the Honest numbers/sentiment instead of mischaracterizing the issue.
PC and Ignorance about Islam span the entire political spectrum.
 
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Most Muslims support Sharia Law including it's Barbaric penalties for Adultery, Apostasy, Theft, Homosexuality, and other's like "insulting Islam" or the 'prophet'.
(see Pew et al)

Do they really?

What does the poll really ask?

If you ask a group of Christians whether they support biblical law, many of them will say yes, of course they do.

Does that mean they support everything in the Old Testament? Stoning people for adultery and whatnot?
 
When it comes to Muslims, it's hard to determine who the lunatics are and who isn't.

When it comes to Catholics and Mormons, its hard to determine who the pedophiles are and who isn't.
 
Do they really?

What does the poll really ask?

If you ask a group of Christians whether they support biblical law, many of them will say yes, of course they do.

Does that mean they support everything in the Old Testament? Stoning people for adultery and whatnot?

Seriously... just think what would happen to Christianity if some zealots got control like the Taliban did and they started in on Old Testament Biblical Law. :roll:
 
mbig said:
Most Muslims support Sharia Law including it's Barbaric penalties for Adultery, Apostasy, Theft, Homosexuality, and other's like "insulting Islam" or the 'prophet'.
(see Pew et al)
Do they really?

What does the Poll Really ask?

If you ask a group of Christians whether they support biblical law, many of them will say yes, of course they do.

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Your Perennial PC LIES about Islam need constant Outing.

Here's "what the polls really ask." Many have the wrong-headed opinion or try and float the PC crap that Muslim support for Sharia and it's barbaric penalties is only a 'Radical' muslim position.
And this Pew study has been [rightly IMO] criticized for leaving out some overwhelmingly pro-on Sharia candidates such as Saudi Arabia and Yemen to mitigate the even wider of support for it, while including Inconsequential Tiny states like Bosnia, Kosovo, etc.

Chapter 1: Beliefs About Sharia | Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project

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Now, what would ie, (worst case) 'Fundamental-Christian-Pat-Robertson-land' do to Apostates and Adulterers?
Send them for counseling?
There is NO comparison between the two.
You and many others here post NONSENSICAL PC Garbage/Apologism about Islam despite Regular destructions of your Lies.
 
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When it comes to Catholics and Mormons, its hard to determine who the pedophiles are and who isn't.
Really? Where are you having the biggest problem in identifying these people? Have you contacted your local authorities for assistance? Put up posters perhaps? Or are you just blowing it out?
 
Really? Where are you having the biggest problem in identifying these people? Have you contacted your local authorities for assistance? Put up posters perhaps? Or are you just blowing it out?

If we are going to make blanket statements that apply to whole groups such as "When it comes to Muslims, it's hard to determine who the lunatics are and who isn't." Then how is what I said any different?
 
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