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President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops.....

I was going to make a sarcastic paranoid post about President Obama turning policemen into gubbermint spies, but notice I'm way behind the crazies who actually believe it! They're out there way beyond parody.
 
Manc Skipper said:
I was going to make a sarcastic paranoid post about President Obama turning policemen into gubbermint spies, but notice I'm way behind the crazies who actually believe it! They're out there way beyond parody.
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What are you talking about Skipper.....almost all in here have agreed with BO's EO about Cops wearing Cameras. Although like it was stated Libertarians have been about that issue for quite some time.
 
Lutherf said:
Generally speaking I think you're right but we also need to consider that the police are the first response force for terror incidents so specialized equipment and training for such events is absolutely necessary. The problem we're having right now isn't that the cops have such equipment. It's that the equipment and tactics are being used in situations where they probably aren't necessary.
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And that is my point. If they are needed and the American people seem to think so, then is must be recognized that these weapons can be and have been misused. And therefor Obama is correct in calling people together to set standards for who gets them, how they are stored, and how they are deployed in view of the fact the constitution specifically the use of military against US citizens. Calling them "police" and then issuing military equipment is simply calling the cat a *****.
 
Fearandloathing said:
And that is my point. If they are needed and the American people seem to think so, then is must be recognized that these weapons can be and have been misused. And therefor Obama is correct in calling people together to set standards for who gets them, how they are stored, and how they are deployed in view of the fact the constitution specifically the use of military against US citizens. Calling them "police" and then issuing military equipment is simply calling the cat a *****.
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Well they do have issues over terminology and of course spelling.....tends to cause their bubbles to burst.
 
Manc Skipper said:
I was going to make a sarcastic paranoid post about President Obama turning policemen into gubbermint spies, but notice I'm way behind the crazies who actually believe it! They're out there way beyond parody.
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Well thanks for bringing that up. You mean the NSA won't have access? Be honest. The FBI does.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Maybe, but maybe not. It may just cut down on police conduct in general which is not necessarily a good thing. When in doubt whether the camera caught the initial criminal act then why make any effort to pursue that any further? Why take a chance on getting into trouble, especially in "bad" neighborhoods?
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Which means they're more likely to call for backup, doesn't it?
 
The cameras will monitor civilians just as much as they monitor police. That the cameras are not fixed to street poles but are instead walking around makes no difference. It still counts as government surveillance.

I also hope that this means they will stop jackbooting civilians for videotaping police action, since, you know, police are now going to be "monitored" anyway.

Don't people see where this is going? Now police departments can say that their footage disagrees with civilian footage.

One more step in the wrong direction for Amerika.
 
Northern Light said:
The cameras will monitor civilians just as much as they monitor police. That the cameras are not fixed to street poles but are instead walking around makes no difference. It still counts as government surveillance.

I also hope that this means they will stop jackbooting civilians for videotaping police action, since, you know, police are now going to be "monitored" anyway.

Don't people see where this is going? Now police departments can say that their footage disagrees with civilian footage.

One more step in the wrong direction for Amerika.
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Heya NL. :2wave: Which it doesn't count the Drones that Law Enforcement will be sending out too.
 
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