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Man dies after being struck by hammers

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Man dies after being struck by hammers

Posted: Nov 30, 2014 2:41 PM CST Updated: Nov 30, 2014 2:41 PM CST

ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI)-Police are investigating an overnight homicide in south St. Louis. It happened around 1:15am Sunday on Gravois and Itaska, near Bevo Mill. A man, identified as Zemir Begic, 32, was struck on the head, face, mouth, and abdomen. He was taken to a hospital where he died of his injuries.

An investigation determined that Begic was in his car when several juveniles came up on foot and began to strike the car. Begic got out and the four suspects began yelling at him and hitting him with hammers. After the assault, the four ran away.​
Man dies after being struck by hammers | FOX2now.com



Twitter is all a flutter with info.
It was a Bosnian, and they went out and protested.

I wonder why the police wont release the motive?
St. Louis police: Man beaten to death with hammers - FOX 35 News Orlando
 
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Hammers? I know it makes a nice weapon but just odd a group of teens walking with hammers.
 
Hammers? I know it makes a nice weapon but just odd a group of teens walking with hammers.
Exactly.
That makes it appear as if it was premeditated.
 
Exactly.
That makes it appear as if it was premeditated.

We can't rule out Ferguson protesters. I'd say especially in KC but there has been more arrests here in CA than there.
Sounds like a hit, can't say the victim was the pre planned target obviously.
 
We can't rule out Ferguson protesters. I'd say especially in KC but there has been more arrests here in CA than there.
Sounds like a hit, can't say the victim was the pre planned target obviously.

We can't rule out the KKK, ex-Fox news anchors, Rush Limbaugh, Girl Scout Troop 263 nor the St Louis Communist Party (they were hammers after all, maybe the sickle brigade would be second wave).... You can't rule anyone out, because we do not know anything about this. Why can't we reserve posts for comments that have some basis of discussion (we actually know a little about the subject). Telling us that we can't rule out Ferguson protesters did nothing to further our collective knowledge nor further the discussion. In fact, it dumbed it down quite a bit. This idle speculation does nothing for anybody.
 
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We can't rule out the KKK, ex-Fox news anchors, Rush Limbaugh, Girl Scout Troop 263 nor the St Louis Communist Party (they were hammers after all, maybe the sickle brigade would be second wave)....

Seriously, don't speculate. It does nothing for anybody.

We can not, thats true. But we also know about the recent events in that particular location.
 
We can't rule out the KKK, ex-Fox news anchors, Rush Limbaugh, Girl Scout Troop 263 nor the St Louis Communist Party (they were hammers after all, maybe the sickle brigade would be second wave).... You can't rule anyone out, because we do not know anything about this.
Wrong.

Two were caught and taken into juvenile custody. Police are still searching for two others, a 16-year-old black male and a 15-year-old Hispanic.

Yes the KKK can be ruled out.
Yes Rush Limbaugh can be ruled out.
Yes Fox News Anchors can be ruled out.
Yes GS Troop 263 located in VA. can be ruled out.
 
"The Hammers is the nickname of what English football team?"
 
We can't rule out the KKK, ex-Fox news anchors, Rush Limbaugh, Girl Scout Troop 263 nor the St Louis Communist Party (they were hammers after all, maybe the sickle brigade would be second wave).... You can't rule anyone out, because we do not know anything about this. Why can't we reserve posts for comments that have some basis of discussion (we actually know a little about the subject). Telling us that we can't rule out Ferguson protesters did nothing to further our collective knowledge nor further the discussion. In fact, it dumbed it down quite a bit. This idle speculation does nothing for anybody.

Not sure about the KKK or the St. Louis communists, but considering 3 suspects have been arrested already, and they're all under the age of 18 and male, we actually can rule out Rush Limbaugh, Girl Scout Troop 263, and ex-Fox News anchors.
 
Hammers? I know it makes a nice weapon but just odd a group of teens walking with hammers.

Someone probably told them they were dumb as a sack of hammers and they took it to heart? :mrgreen:
 
Hammers? I know it makes a nice weapon but just odd a group of teens walking with hammers.

Well, at least it wasn't guns. If they had guns someone could have....oh, wait a minute.
 



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We should outlaw hammers. Starting with high capacity assault hammers.
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.... a bit misleading.... Yes, hammers may have been used in more murders than assault rifles, but before you go blaming Home Depot, realize that guns accounted for 8,500 murders in 2011, more than double the sum of murders caused by ALL other weapons.

So, your tongue in cheek may be duly noted, but gives rise the real facts..... which is guns are the murder machine of choice, by far.

FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 8
 
.... a bit misleading.... Yes, hammers may have been used in more murders than assault rifles, but before you go blaming Home Depot, realize that guns accounted for 8,500 murders in 2011, more than double the sum of murders caused by ALL other weapons.

So, your tongue in cheek may be duly noted, but gives rise the real facts..... which is guns are the murder machine of choice, by far.

FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

And yet its assault rifles that are presented as some ominous death sticks. Why? Because they look scary and are less common and therefore easier to enact legislation against.
 
And yet its assault rifles that are presented as some ominous death sticks. Why? Because they look scary and are less common and therefore easier to enact legislation against.

Hammers also, you know, serve another purpose. The primary intent of a hammer, or a rolling pin, is not to bludgeon someone to death. The primary intent of an "assault rifle" is to kill.

EDIT: No, I am not arguing in favor of banning "assault rifles."
 
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Hammers also, you know, serve another purpose. The primary intent of a hammer, or a rolling pin, is not to bludgeon someone to death. The primary intent of an "assault rifle" is to kill.

EDIT: No, I am not arguing in favor of banning "assault rifles."

Primary intent is irrelevant, we are talking about use in crime. Kobie, I own several rifles including a pair of AR's. They punch holes in paper, from point blank range to 1K+ meters.
 
Hammers also, you know, serve another purpose. The primary intent of a hammer, or a rolling pin, is not to bludgeon someone to death. The primary intent of an "assault rifle" is to kill.

EDIT: No, I am not arguing in favor of banning "assault rifles."

What is an "assault rifle", and to whom are you referring that uses them to kill?
 
Primary intent is irrelevant, we are talking about use in crime. Kobie, I own several rifles including a pair of AR's. They punch holes in paper, from point blank range to 1K+ meters.

I'm very happy for you.
 
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What is an "assault rifle", and to whom are you referring that uses them to kill?

I put assault rifle in quotes because it's kind of a BS term anyway.

To whom is it used to kill? Whomever it's pointed at when the trigger is pulled.
 
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