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Chuck Schumer says Democrats shouldn’t have bothered to reform health care

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The plight of uninsured Americans and the hardships caused by unfair insurance company practices certainly needed to be addressed. But it wasn’t the change we were hired to make; Americans were crying out for an end to the recession, for better wages and more jobs; not for changes in their health care.

Chuck Schumer says Democrats shouldn’t have bothered to reform health care - The Washington Post

This is so shocking to hear from a Democrat that I wonder if hes being sarcastic. Is his message really praising Democrats for doing what was "right" instead of what was political? Beyond all that he makes some great points. Most healthcare spending is by govt programs already, the rest through employers where they dont pay alot. So the ACA didnt help very many people, and those people dont even vote. And this was all at a time when the focus should have been on jobs and economic growth, financial stability, not new and bigger govt socialism.

The same might be said if immigration now. Why is politics focused on something which will help very few people, at a time when security, debt, deficits, spending, taxes, are more important? And this is confirmed in polling. Voters dont want amnesty, and they dont care about immigration as much as they care about govt taxing and spending, and regulation.
 
schmuck schumer:
The plight of uninsured Americans and the hardships caused by unfair insurance company practices certainly needed to be addressed. But it wasn’t the change we were hired to make; Americans were crying out for an end to the recession, for better wages and more jobs; not for changes in their health care.
[emphasis added by bubba]
the asshole has not yet realized that those things could also be addressed

now let's see what that representative of wall street has done to effect better wages and more jobs to overcome the effects of the recession. and you will find the answer is NOTHING
 
I'd never question that Schumer is a smart guy but if there is one thing he hates is being in the minority.
 
schmuck schumer:
[emphasis added by bubba]
the asshole has not yet realized that those things could also be addressed

now let's see what that representative of wall street has done to effect better wages and more jobs to overcome the effects of the recession. and you will find the answer is NOTHING

It is amazing to watch how quickly the left will throw one of their own under the bus if they step out of party line for even a second. Yeah, Schumer, the commie darling, is a "representative of wall street". HA! Good one.
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schmuck schumer:
[emphasis added by bubba]
the asshole has not yet realized that those things could also be addressed

now let's see what that representative of wall street has done to effect better wages and more jobs to overcome the effects of the recession. and you will find the answer is NOTHING

So you don't like Schumer? He represents Wall Street? Wow.
 
It is amazing to watch how quickly the left will throw one of their own under the bus if they step out of party line for even a second. Yeah, Schumer, the commie darling, is a "representative of wall street". HA! Good one.
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One of the shiftiest leftwing weasels on the planet, and bubba is trying to marginalize him. What a turn of events!!!! Schumer is right, they should have stayed the **** out of healthcare because they don't know what they're doing.
 
Yea the Democrats shouldn't have " reformed " Health Care.

You LYING bunch of low lifes screwed it all up.

And sure the Government spends a ever increasing amount of money on it.

But none of that makes the current rate of Medicare spending sustainable.
 
I'd never question that Schumer is a smart guy but if there is one thing he hates is being in the minority.

there is a HUGE question whether schmuck is a smart guy. actually, there is nothing to indicate he is
 
One of the shiftiest leftwing weasels on the planet, and bubba is trying to marginalize him. What a turn of events!!!! Schumer is right, they should have stayed the **** out of healthcare because they don't know what they're doing.

i note you leap to embrace the weasel only because he is now a critic of the timing of Obamacare
as if there would have been an easy time to get that measure passed
 
i note you leap to embrace the weasel only because he is now a critic of the timing of Obamacare
as if there would have been an easy time to get that measure passed

I always find it extremely notable and informative when a leftwinger comes out against their own. I note the you leap to throw him under the bus the minute he attacks your pet program.
 
I always find it extremely notable and informative when a leftwinger comes out against their own. I note the you leap to throw him under the bus the minute he attacks your pet program.

schmuck schumer and i have nothing in common. including our politics
 
Chuck Schumer says Democrats shouldn’t have bothered to reform health care - The Washington Post

This is so shocking to hear from a Democrat that I wonder if hes being sarcastic. Is his message really praising Democrats for doing what was "right" instead of what was political? Beyond all that he makes some great points. Most healthcare spending is by govt programs already, the rest through employers where they dont pay alot. So the ACA didnt help very many people, and those people dont even vote. And this was all at a time when the focus should have been on jobs and economic growth, financial stability, not new and bigger govt socialism.

The same might be said if immigration now. Why is politics focused on something which will help very few people, at a time when security, debt, deficits, spending, taxes, are more important? And this is confirmed in polling. Voters dont want amnesty, and they dont care about immigration as much as they care about govt taxing and spending, and regulation.

Schumer is another of the long list of greasy, slimy Demokrats. He's a hardcore leftist. A vital cog in the Gruber/Obama scheme.

This is about saving skins.
It's a CYA move.

Yes, he's in NY, which means his seat is fairly safe, yes he's a mentor to Weiner, yes he voted for Obamakare... but he sees the writing on the wall with all that has been happening due to Demokrat policies. Failure is what has happened, and Demokrats have been losing their seats en masse.

ObamaKare is a massive failure.
The lies about ObamaKare have been publicly exposed thanks to Gruber.
The economy is a massive failure.
Bengazi is still an open wound.
Demokrats using the IRS as a political weapon is still an open wound.
Foreign policy is a joke.
Executive amnesty is seen as ObamaVomit.
Now Ferguson... a Demokrat crafted response to justice.

The sum total: Does not bode well for Demokrats.

The greasy NY Senator is also trying to help Obama with a Vagina... aka Hillary... by creating distance to all this misery. The Clinton Crime Family and Schumer are connected by a certain Weiner, and his wife Huma. I'll bet they put him up to this, and seeing his ass on the line, is desperate to try anything to prevent the ships from sinking.
 
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Chuck Schumer says Democrats shouldn’t have bothered to reform health care - The Washington Post

This is so shocking to hear from a Democrat that I wonder if hes being sarcastic. Is his message really praising Democrats for doing what was "right" instead of what was political? Beyond all that he makes some great points. Most healthcare spending is by govt programs already, the rest through employers where they dont pay alot. So the ACA didnt help very many people, and those people dont even vote. And this was all at a time when the focus should have been on jobs and economic growth, financial stability, not new and bigger govt socialism.

The same might be said if immigration now. Why is politics focused on something which will help very few people, at a time when security, debt, deficits, spending, taxes, are more important? And this is confirmed in polling. Voters dont want amnesty, and they dont care about immigration as much as they care about govt taxing and spending, and regulation.

Schummer said exactly what I have been say about the Democrats and the ACA for a very long time. In my words that the people elected Obama and the Democrats to fix the economy, but then they concentrated on health care totally ignoring the wishes of the people. They forgot all about jobs and the economy. Then 2010 happened. If one looked at the exit polls for 2014, 45% of the voters said it was their number one issue, 78% said they were worried their and the nation's financial future.

So here we go again for the Democrats, with the economy on everyone's mind, what does Obama do? Immigration reform. Same old story of ignoring what the people want.
 
i note you leap to embrace the weasel only because he is now a critic of the timing of Obamacare
as if there would have been an easy time to get that measure passed

When a slimy hatchetman like Schumer pisses in the face of his party, you bet we're going to stand up... notice... and if someone has half a brain, use his words against those in his party.

Well... ObamaKare was passed, we know know what's in it, and it's junk based on a heap of admitted lies. It was a shell game, sold to a bunch of suckers.
 
Schummer said exactly what I have been say about the Democrats and the ACA for a very long time. In my words that the people elected Obama and the Democrats to fix the economy, but then they concentrated on health care totally ignoring the wishes of the people. They forgot all about jobs and the economy. Then 2010 happened. If one looked at the exit polls for 2014, 45% of the voters said it was their number one issue, 78% said they were worried their and the nation's financial future.

So here we go again for the Democrats, with the economy on everyone's mind, what does Obama do? Immigration reform. Same old story of ignoring what the people want.

Just how many times did we here Obama claim he had "a laser-like focus on the economy"?

Simply more lies.
 
It is amazing to watch how quickly the left will throw one of their own under the bus if they step out of party line for even a second. Yeah, Schumer, the commie darling, is a "representative of wall street". HA! Good one.
smiley-laughing021.gif

"Commie darling"? That's absurd.
 
Just how many times did we here Obama claim he had "a laser-like focus on the economy"?

Simply more lies.

Great point. He also constantly states thats its the first thing he thinks of when he wakes up. Then he goes and plays golf.
 
there is a HUGE question whether schmuck is a smart guy. actually, there is nothing to indicate he is

While I do not agree with the Senator, I will not discard the fact that he is a smart guy. Perhaps there is other reasons you discount his intelligence beyond just disagreement with his opinions.
 
Just how many times did we here Obama claim he had "a laser-like focus on the economy"?

Simply more lies.

He got sidetracked into doing a political agenda instead of what the people elected him to do in the first place. First it cost him the House, then it cost him the senate. This is what happens at times when those whom the people elect fail to listed to those who voted for them.
 
"Commie darling"? That's absurd.

What I think Schummer admitted to was the people elected Obama and the Democrats to fix the economy back in 2008. The people were fixated on the economy, not healthcare. When he and the Democrats took their eyes off the economy to concentrate on healthcare, that is not what the majority of the people wanted. He never said the ACA was a bad thing, he said it was good and needed which I disagree with him. But it wasn't what the people wanted at the time. Then 2010 happened, a complete shock to Obama and the Democrats.

I have been saying the same thing for years. 2010 happened because the Democrats ignored the wishes of the people. Now if one looks at the exit polls for the 2014 election, the voters are saying the same thing, its the economy stupid. 45% of them said the economy was their number one issue, 78% of the voters said they are worried about their and the nation's financial future.

No brainier right? But what is the first thing the president does even though I am sure he knew what was foremost on the minds of the voters, immigration reform. Bad move? Maybe.

If the new Republican congress concentrate on the removal of his immigration EO and take their attention off the economy, then this may have been a good move. But if the new Republican congress doesn't, if they concentrate on passing bills dealing with the economy, then the president and the Democrats may rue the day. So the ball is now in the Republican's court. My opinion.
 
What I think Schummer admitted to was the people elected Obama and the Democrats to fix the economy back in 2008. The people were fixated on the economy, not healthcare. When he and the Democrats took their eyes off the economy to concentrate on healthcare, that is not what the majority of the people wanted. He never said the ACA was a bad thing, he said it was good and needed which I disagree with him. But it wasn't what the people wanted at the time. Then 2010 happened, a complete shock to Obama and the Democrats.

I have been saying the same thing for years. 2010 happened because the Democrats ignored the wishes of the people. Now if one looks at the exit polls for the 2014 election, the voters are saying the same thing, its the economy stupid. 45% of them said the economy was their number one issue, 78% of the voters said they are worried about their and the nation's financial future.

No brainier right? But what is the first thing the president does even though I am sure he knew what was foremost on the minds of the voters, immigration reform. Bad move? Maybe.

If the new Republican congress concentrate on the removal of his immigration EO and take their attention off the economy, then this may have been a good move. But if the new Republican congress doesn't, if they concentrate on passing bills dealing with the economy, then the president and the Democrats may rue the day. So the ball is now in the Republican's court. My opinion.

Obama has created so much ill-will, has lied so thoroughly, has been exposed on those lies that I believe the damage is done. Only the Gruberites will come to his defense.

Obama has tried to blame everyone else for his failures, and to top it off, he turns around and pisses in the face of the electorate right after the election.

Obama is simply unbelievable, and this will hurt The Clinton Crime Family, who comes to the show with loads of baggage and deceits.

In short, Obama has screwed Hillary. The Demokrats have screwed Hillary. And Hillary has screwed Hillary.

6-years of misery will not be forgotten in 2014, and Obama is no uniter. He'll be out to screw the country and Republicans... but now the public knows who he is. He has a record, and regardless of the issue, it sucks.
 
Sounds to me that Chuch Schumer is dancing around the political fallout from ACA instead of being sincere about where they should have put their efforts during the 111th Democrat controlled Congress. What he cannot escape is Obama was acting upon a major campaign promise with what became ACA, something many Democrats in the 111th Congress also made a campaign note of. So it is somewhat disingenuous to suggest it was not important. Politicially Democrats made it important. Obviously the economy and what Democrats made of the wars were also important but that does not negate the Obama and crew campaigned on these things. You have to remembet that Obama in 2008 was all about running away from Bush 43 legacies.

Unlike immigration, Democrats followed through on healthcare reform with a "we have to pass this legislation, so you can find out what is in it" mentality. That huge bill with all those parts, quite a mess that ended up playing right into the hands of the health insurance industry. That is part of the fallout of ACA, all that is in it that we now know about. Polls overwhelmingly supported. People are not pleased with ACA overall even though they may like parts of it. I think Schumer is reacting to that far more than some honest statement on what they should have focused on over 4 years ago.
 
schmuck schumer:
[emphasis added by bubba]
the asshole has not yet realized that those things could also be addressed

now let's see what that representative of wall street has done to effect better wages and more jobs to overcome the effects of the recession. and you will find the answer is NOTHING
Why would I, as an investor, do anything to improve wages? If you want to earn more money then you go get the skills you need to be worth more. The only person's wages I am obligated to improve are my own.

Government is intentionally strangling job creation. It is what authoritarian states do.
 
He got sidetracked into doing a political agenda instead of what the people elected him to do in the first place. First it cost him the House, then it cost him the senate. This is what happens at times when those whom the people elect fail to listed to those who voted for them.

Cmon Pero. :2wave: Haven't you seen the left running around and talking about the mid-term means nothing. Its just the usual. Par for the Course. :golf

Elections have consequences.....but this one doesn't. :roll:
 
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