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justabubba said:
actually, witnesses stating they saw brown with his hands in a surrender position prior to being gunned down does seem to offer a perspective of events which necessitates a jury trial to sort out fact from fiction
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No it doesn't.
1. Because you are citing public statements. Not their statements to investigators or that which they told the GJ.
2. Those public statements of hands up surrendering, were changed in further public statements.


Now you are also forgetting that those public statements were made available to the GJ, which would include their later changes.
So? Who the heck do you think they were talking about when they said witnesses lied?
 
Fiddytree said:
I would not go that far, however, Brown's stepfather deserves public condemnation rather than mere dismissal.
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He deserves to be arrested for inciting a riot.
 
justabubba said:
actually, witnesses stating they saw brown with his hands in a surrender position prior to being gunned down does seem to offer a perspective of events which necessitates a jury trial to sort out fact from fiction
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There was conflicting information regarding his hands.. and the trail of blood indicates that, after brown ran, he started advancing back towards Wilson. The forensics information pokes holes in a lot of the claims made.
 
Fenton said:
He deserves to be arrested for inciting a riot.
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It would not be prudent at this point to pursue that, but that doesn't mean that the apologetics from the family's legal team should be treated with this amount of respect. It was irritating to watch CNN's treatment of it. The behavior of the sttepfather should disgust everyone.
 
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X Factor said:
I don't think NIMBY's offering any excuses for looters or vandals. What I know is that the GJ had made its decision and the prosecutor's office decides to announce that they will announce it in a couple hours. I honestly found that bizarre and all that did was amp up the tensions not to mention give people a chance to form crowds prior to the decision even being made known.
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Should've been announced Thursday morning when people were about to get ready for football and turkey instead of right before sundown. Real mental midgets running that circus.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
You can speculate all you want, but lets be real here, 91% of all black people shot and killed, were done so by other black people. The real threat is within, not outside of the black community.


I for one am a staunch opponent to militarized police, and can state undoubtedly ferguson police response sucked, but this officer shot to defend himself according to the evidence we have.
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It has nothing to do with race for me. It has to do with the constant refusal of grand jurors and juries to hold police accountable for their actions. They will bend over backwards to give a pass to a person because they carry a badge.
 
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Mason66 said:
Don't apologize, you shouldn't have any sympathy for these animals.
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Animals huh?
 
Fiddytree said:
It would not be prudent at this point to pursue that, but that doesn't mean that the apologetics from the family's legal team should be treated with this amount of respect. It was irritating to watch CNN's treatment of it. The behavior of the sttepfather should disgust everyone.
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Whats ALWAYS prudent is the enforcement of existing laws under any and all circumstances.

The laws are being superceded by mob rule. What's f***in holding a society together after that ?

Defining deviancy down bit by bit is all this is.
 
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poweRob said:
Nice admission that fox is to white people (Certain white people) what "Black Entertainment TV" is to black people. I agree.
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You know, last night I did something different, I watched the TV news channel coverage. Switching between CNN, MSNBC and FoxNews. Have to say, Fox was the ONLY one with balanced and accurate coverage (and I typically avoid FN like the plague, can't stand the blondness). Even CNN got it wrong sooo much.

Funny CNN story. They were talking to their man in the field and he was showing live footage of where he was and what the rioters were saying about justice and what they were burning/looting. The anchor asked him, "Where are the police?", he answered that he had been there in that spot for hours and he'd seen no evidence of ANY (his emphasis) police presence whatsoever. Behind him, in the video was a police car the rioters were setting on fire.

To add to that, there were more black people reporting or commenting on the riots on FN than either of the other two. Heck, CNN had one guy and they had to get him from the UK desk.
 
Ferguson really has me worry. Is this the sad state of the justice system in America????

Keystone cops and Mickey Mouse county courts.

Ferguson exposed to the world a JV county legal system...Everyone should be very worried that armatures sit in judgement of you.
 
1750Texan said:
Ferguson really has me worry. Is this the sad state of the justice system in America????

Keystone cops and Mickey Mouse county courts.

Ferguson exposed to the world a JV county legal system...Everyone should be very worried that armatures sit in judgement of you.
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How so? The evidence supported Wilson. Not brown. Why was brown inside Wilson's car?
 
1750Texan said:
Ferguson really has me worry. Is this the sad state of the justice system in America????

Keystone cops and Mickey Mouse county courts.

Ferguson exposed to the world a JV county legal system...Everyone should be very worried that armatures sit in judgement of you.
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You should be worried.

Brown's Stepfather not being arrested IMMEDIATELY for inciting a riot, witnesses getting away with perjury.


Mod rule superceding the rule of law should worry anyone with a brain.
 
Fenton said:
Whats ALWAYS prudent is the enforcement of existing laws under any and all circumstances.

The laws are being superceded by mob rule. What's f***in holding a society together after that ?

Defining deviancy down bit by bit is all this is.
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The mob is pissed that there is no rule of law. The mob is not rioting for the **** of it...they are rioting because the system is broken.
 
Fiddytree said:
I would not go that far, however, Brown's stepfather deserves public condemnation rather than mere dismissal.
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Yes, condemnation of that should be universal, and strong.

I doubt the officials will pursue any such charges, just as they were too weak to properly protect the area from arson and looting.
 
1750Texan said:
The mob is pissed that there is no rule of law. The mob is not rioting for the **** of it...they are rioting because the system is broken.
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Nonsense

They're rioting because their criminals

Criminals riot.
 
Fenton said:
Whats ALWAYS prudent is the enforcement of existing laws under any and all circumstances.

The laws are being superceded by mob rule. What's f***in holding a society together after that ?

Defining deviancy down bit by bit is all this is.
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Do you honestly believe that the police force will move forward with going after Michael Brown's family? Start listing the likely reasons why they won't. Those reasons are prudence.
 
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Fenton said:
LOL !!

Sorry, whether or not he was shot for being black is for the ignorant mobs to decide.
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No. It should have been for a real jury and real lawyers to decide.
 
disneydude said:
It has nothing to do with race for me. It has to do with the constant refusal of grand jurors and juries to hold police accountable for their actions. They will bend over backwards to give a pass to a person because they carry a badge.
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And of course it escapes you that IF that is the case, it may be because the police officers didn't commit a crime in those instances.
 
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clownboy said:
You know, last night I did something different, I watched the TV news channel coverage. Switching between CNN, MSNBC and FoxNews. Have to say, Fox was the ONLY one with balanced and accurate coverage (and I typically avoid FN like the plague, can't stand the blondness). Even CNN got it wrong sooo much.

Funny CNN story. They were talking to their man in the field and he was showing live footage of where he was and what the rioters were saying about justice and what they were burning/looting. The anchor asked him, "Where are the police?", he answered that he had been there in that spot for hours and he'd seen no evidence of ANY (his emphasis) police presence whatsoever. Behind him, in the video was a police car the rioters were setting on fire.
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CNN is just ****ing awful. Fox and MSNBC have opted for a target and that's where they head. CNN wants to think they are in competition with those networks so they stick their fingers up to see which way they believe the wind is blowing and then chase that wind. When they should rebuke this redefined version of news and get back to reporting and rebuke the notion that they are competing with 24 hour pundit parades on those other two channels.
 
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1750Texan said:
No. It should have been for a real jury and real lawyers to decide.
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Lawyers don't decide guilt or innocence. And a Grand Jury is a real jury.
 
1750Texan said:
The mob is pissed that there is no rule of law. The mob is not rioting for the **** of it...they are rioting because the system is broken.
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The mob is an immoral and destructive force to order and should be opposed.
 
1750Texan said:
Ferguson really has me worry. Is this the sad state of the justice system in America????

Keystone cops and Mickey Mouse county courts.

Ferguson exposed to the world a JV county legal system...Everyone should be very worried that armatures sit in judgement of you.
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You really haven't been following this at all have you? That supposed "JV county legal system" has been overseen by Holder's FEDERAL Justice Department since near the beginning.
 
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