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Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

I don't agree at all with any gov't entity forcing businesses to pay employees more,

However, govt does it - through minimum wage laws and through overtime pay rules. Also through vacation and holiday requirements, and through paid sick time (not everywhere, but some places)

Whether govt should put in any kind of pay requirement around the holiday can be debated. That govt can force businesses to pay more is a given.
 
I do understand for the struggling poor among us, WalMart offers a lot of value. I just don't like how they do it. And perhaps there would be fewer struggling poor if WalMart paid a bit more

But if they paid more, their prices would have to go up and they'd no longer offer as much value to the community. You're asking them to slit their own throat. If they weren't as big as they are, they wouldn't employ as many people as they do.
 
However, govt does it - through minimum wage laws and through overtime pay rules. Also through vacation and holiday requirements, and through paid sick time (not everywhere, but some places)

Whether govt should put in any kind of pay requirement around the holiday can be debated. That govt can force businesses to pay more is a given.

That they can and that they should are two different things.
 
However, govt does it - through minimum wage laws and through overtime pay rules. Also through vacation and holiday requirements, and through paid sick time (not everywhere, but some places)

Whether govt should put in any kind of pay requirement around the holiday can be debated. That govt can force businesses to pay more is a given.

I didn't say they couldn't do it. I just said I didn't agree with it.
 
If you dont like to work during the holidays then dont get a job in retail. Its as simple as that.
 
If you dont like to work during the holidays then dont get a job in retail. Its as simple as that.

It's one thing to get hired into a job where you are told- before accepting the offer - that you will need to work holidays.

It's another thing to have the business start opening on holidays AFTER you are hired, and then requiring you to work them.


Yes, jobs are so plentiful that every person can pick and choose the perfect one for them.

And what radcen says - people have to sometimes suck it up, take the job, even if they don't like working on holidays or Sundays or whatever. And quitting is NOT an easy option in today's economy (yes, the unemployment rate has gone down considerably, but walking off a job - especially if you have a family - isn't something a responsible person does).


At any rate, there is a pretty easy solution. A business wants to open on the holiday when it didn't before? Great. Ask for volunteers - and make it worth their time. I am SURE if you pay people enough, enough will come to work to cover the shift. And don't penalize those who choose to be home with their families. Oh - also give plenty of advance warning, so people can make plans accordingly. What's wrong with courtesy, flexibility, and accommodation?
 
A curious thing - demanding people celebrate Thanksgiving by being laid off for a day and losing pay accordingly - even if the employee opposes what Thanksgiving is celebrating (the beginning of the genocide and subjugation of 50,000,000 people). I don't raise this myself to argue against Thanksgiving as a holiday, but there are people who see it that way. Forced to celebrate - like it or not - by not getting paid for the day???

As a practical matter, giving employees "the option" of taking off is untenable for a business. The cook takes the day off - then what do the other employees do? Or a retail store with no cashiers? Either a business has a sufficient number of employees there or not.

These demands are made by people who have NO clue how business functions. Rather, they just see all businesses as evil WalMart and otherwise have no clue.
 
Yes, jobs are so plentiful that every person can pick and choose the perfect one for them. :roll:

Actions have consequences. If you don't get a good education, if you don't make good life choices, if you don't have good job skills, you get stuck in jobs with downsides. Don't like it? Be a better person.
 
Actions have consequences. If you don't get a good education, if you don't make good life choices, if you don't have good job skills, you get stuck in jobs with downsides. Don't like it? Be a better person.
All you did was rephrase the same claptrap. There are plenty of people who are "better" people, who did make good choices and got a good education, and still cannot find decent jobs.
 
All you did was rephrase the same claptrap. There are plenty of people who are "better" people, who did make good choices and got a good education, and still cannot find decent jobs.

And most of them are working where they can work while the economy recovers and not whining about it. They're thankful for their jobs. Maybe some Walmart whiners ought to try that.
 
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