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Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

The only way he could be indicted is if the grand jury has been intimidated by the threats of violence by anti-white racist scumbags.

The African-Americans in Furgeson have been threatening to murder and rape white women if Wilson is not indicted and convicted. Their threats of "No justice, no peace" is at the very least a racial hate crime and they should all be arrested.

I'm lost. Do you mean all the people making those threats, or all the black people?
 
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The jury has apparently made its decision. Announcement will be made sometime later today.

Regardless of the decision, I wish the people of Ferguson experience peace and calm in their community and that no one else dies or is injured as a result. Too often, in America, emotions outpace rational thought and I hope this is one occasion where the reverse takes place.
 
Regardless of the decision, I wish the people of Ferguson experience peace and calm in their community and that no one else dies or is injured as a result. Too often, in America, emotions outpace rational thought and I hope this is one occasion where the reverse takes place.

Hopefully, but likely not. Modern America isn't well known for it's reason and logic.
 
We've waited this long to find out the official verdict and the reaction to it. I can wait a little longer without speculating.
 
Whatever the decision, I think I'll be satisfied with it.

This is how police violence should be handled. He shot someone, the evidence was placed in front of a grand jury, and they'll decide whether to move to trial. Just like it would happen in any shooting involving someone who wasn't a police officer.
 
We've waited this long to find out the official verdict and the reaction to it. I can wait a little longer without speculating.

I'm not fully conversant with the American grand jury process. If the grand jury fails to hand down an indictment, can another grand jury be struck to look at the same charges or does that fall under your double jeopardy provisions?
 
Reportedly the reason they took so long is so that they could save money by booking their flights in advance.
 
I'm not fully conversant with the American grand jury process. If the grand jury fails to hand down an indictment, can another grand jury be struck to look at the same charges or does that fall under your double jeopardy provisions?

Wiki says it best:

The Double Jeopardy Clause of the Fifth Amendment does not attach in a grand jury proceeding, or bar a grand jury from returning an indictment when a prior grand jury has refused to do so.

Double Jeopardy Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
You don't have to believe me, but a LE agency that I know of received notice Saturday.




Like I told the above poster. A LE Agency I know of was told Saturday.

So while the Police did not agree to the 48 hour time table as it was out side the scope of their purview, the Prosecutor has control and I believe he had agreed to that demand, so yeah he could have changed things up. And he could have known what the decision was going to be before they met today and let specific agencies know 48 hours ago what was most likely to happen.
So either the Command lied to their Officers, or it is true.

I can't tell you any more than that.
Maybe it is untrue and they were just going off of unconfirmed reports. Yet I doubt that. :shrug:

Who knows. Time will tell. I'm sure we'll eventually find out.
 
Thank you for that. I had the same question.

Ever watch the Rockford Files? They did a couple shows featuring the grand jury process. It's the kludgiest part of our legal system.
 
Thanks - hopefully, if it doesn't hand down an indictment, the local authorities let it rest even if the feds pursue it on civil rights grounds.

Either way, I hope the feds stay out of continuing it.
 
delaying the announcement means he's probably not indicted.

They're waiting for the cops and national gaurd to get in place, before the **** hits the fan. I believe they waited until today, because school is out for Thanksgiving.
 
Either way, I hope the feds stay out of continuing it.

Worse, I hope the race baiters stay out of it. That includes Holder.

They won't, but I wish they would.
 
Thanks - hopefully, if it doesn't hand down an indictment, the local authorities let it rest even if the feds pursue it on civil rights grounds.

Even if Officer Wilson is not indicted, the Browns will still have the option of suing him in a civil court. This would not mean jail but monetary damages if found guilty.
(strangely similar to the OJ case, whereupon THOSE Browns sued and won in a civil court.)

A civil case would be much easier as the burden of proof is much less. In a criminal court the plaintiff must establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, where, in a civil case, the proof needed for a guilty verdict is the preponderance of the evidence. That is, is there more evidence of guilt than innocence?

It would be wise of the authorities to announce no indictment* late, late at night or early, early in the morning. I am sure the more motivated "protesters" will still do their worst, however, perhaps the timing of the announcement could allow some time for cooler heads to prevail.


*If that is the outcome.
 
Worse, I hope the race baiters stay out of it. That includes Holder.

They won't, but I wish they would.

Unfortunately, one comes with the other.
 
Even if Officer Wilson is not indicted, the Browns will still have the option of suing him in a civil court. This would not mean jail but monetary damages if found guilty.
(strangely similar to the OJ case, whereupon THOSE Browns sued and won in a civil court.)

A civil case would be much easier as the burden of proof is much less. In a criminal court the plaintiff must establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, where, in a civil case, the proof needed for a guilty verdict is the preponderance of the evidence. That is, is there more evidence of guilt than innocence?

It would be wise of the authorities to announce no indictment* late, late at night or early, early in the morning. I am sure the more motivated "protesters" will still do their worst, however, perhaps the timing of the announcement could allow some time for cooler heads to prevail.


*If that is the outcome.

A civil case in this matter would likely be against the city, police department, and state - the ones with the deep pockets. They'd have to prove some form of systemic racism in order to be successful and it will be impossible to do, in my opinion, solely against Officer Wilson. But you're right, that's likely what the future holds.
 
Who knows. Time will tell. I'm sure we'll eventually find out.

Again. Unless I am being lied to which I highly doubt.

The announcement is supposed to be at 8pm.
 
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I heard the same from the news conference about 10 minutes ago. We find out at 9pm Eastern, 8pm there.
 
Even if Officer Wilson is not indicted, the Browns will still have the option of suing him in a civil court. This would not mean jail but monetary damages if found guilty.
(strangely similar to the OJ case, whereupon THOSE Browns sued and won in a civil court.)

A civil case would be much easier as the burden of proof is much less. In a criminal court the plaintiff must establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, where, in a civil case, the proof needed for a guilty verdict is the preponderance of the evidence. That is, is there more evidence of guilt than innocence?

It would be wise of the authorities to announce no indictment* late, late at night or early, early in the morning. I am sure the more motivated "protesters" will still do their worst, however, perhaps the timing of the announcement could allow some time for cooler heads to prevail.


*If that is the outcome.

A civil suit would likely be unsuccessful. Unless he's charged with police misconduct, he'd likely be entitled to qualified immunity. You'd need to basically prove that all other law enforcement officers in a similar situation would react differently which based solely on the information thats been leaked, highly unlikely.
 
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