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Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

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This issue is dead until the next Congress in sworn in. Will Obama Veto the legislation or sign it?

WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats on Tuesday defeated a bill, 59 to 41, that would have approved the construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline, rebuffing a Democratic colleague, Senator Mary L. Landrieu of Louisiana, who had hoped to muscle the legislation through in advance of her uphill runoff election fight back home.

Forty Democrats and Angus King, independent of Maine, voted against the bill, with just 14 Democrats joining all 45 Republicans in support of the oil pipeline.

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It's still ****ed up that 59 votes doesn't mean something is passed, no matter what the issue.
 
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stupid hill to die on. could have traded it for wind farm funding, or used it as a bargaining chip for something else.
 
Your Star said:
It's still ****ed up that 59 votes doesn't mean something is passed, no matter what the issue.
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The Senate's purpose to ensure that nothing too useful gets done.
 
Helix said:
stupid hill to die on. could have traded it for wind farm funding, or used it as a bargaining chip for something else.
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Wind farm funding isn't hurting for cash. The wind industry only exists because of green welfare. How about we support an industry that can actually stand on it's own feet? What's wrong with that?
 
Your Star said:
It's still ****ed up that 59 votes doesn't mean something is passed, no matter what the issue.
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disagree
if it is a proposal for which 60% of a deciding party cannot come to agreement on, it's probably best for the nation not to proceed in that direction. same reasoning i believe tells us that two-thirds in agreement are requirement for major issues such as amendments and impeachment
 
If they named it the Obama Pipeline, it would have passed.
 
Your Star said:
It's still ****ed up that 59 votes doesn't mean something is passed, no matter what the issue.
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the senate writes its own rules, if republicans wish to lower it down to 51 votes needed to pass legislation, they can do it when they enter office.
 
apdst said:
How about we support an industry that can actually stand on it's own feet? What's wrong with that?
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I don't know, why do we give billions to the oil industry?
 
ernst barkmann said:
the orginal purpose of the senate is to place a check on federal power, and the block collective legislation of the house.
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Yeah, that's what I said! :)
 
Deuce said:
The Senate's purpose to ensure that nothing too useful gets done.
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I think they wrote that into the Constitution. :lol:
 
Deuce said:
I don't know, why do we give billions to the oil industry?
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We don't give $billions, they just don't pay $billions.
 
Keep digging your own graves for 2016 Democrats. I love it.
 
pbrauer said:
This issue is dead until the next Congress in sworn in. Will Obama Veto the legislation or sign it?

WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats on Tuesday defeated a bill, 59 to 41, that would have approved the construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline, rebuffing a Democratic colleague, Senator Mary L. Landrieu of Louisiana, who had hoped to muscle the legislation through in advance of her uphill runoff election fight back home.

Forty Democrats and Angus King, independent of Maine, voted against the bill, with just 14 Democrats joining all 45 Republicans in support of the oil pipeline.

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Greetings, pbrauer. :2wave:

I had read the breaking news about this on Yahoo earlier, but they didn't give the vote tally. Thanks for the update - that was nail biting close, and probably very disappointing for Mary Landrieu. The unions seemed to be behind approving the Pipeline, so I don't know if the President will veto it if it comes back again in January.
 
That would be the same method the GOP used the last four years to filibuster the Democrats, even on GOP ideas.
Not to mention the months Franken was refused his seat in 2009 and when Kennedy's seat was lost to Brown in the 2009 term.
Filibusters are a two-sided coin .

Your Star said:
It's still ****ed up that 59 votes doesn't mean something is passed, no matter what the issue.
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Deuce said:
Preferential tax breaks are still picking winners and losers.
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It's all through our country, not just Big Oil. It goes all the way to the county level.
 
Too bad there isn't a loyal opposition on the other side willing to deal as you've mentioned.
Hasn't been since the night Obama was elected, as you well know .

Helix said:
stupid hill to die on. could have traded it for wind farm funding, or used it as a bargaining chip for something else.
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pbrauer said:
This issue is dead until the next Congress in sworn in. Will Obama Veto the legislation or sign it?

WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats on Tuesday defeated a bill, 59 to 41, that would have approved the construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline, rebuffing a Democratic colleague, Senator Mary L. Landrieu of Louisiana, who had hoped to muscle the legislation through in advance of her uphill runoff election fight back home.

Forty Democrats and Angus King, independent of Maine, voted against the bill, with just 14 Democrats joining all 45 Republicans in support of the oil pipeline.

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I would like to know the names of the 14 Democrats who support it. I would like to compare the names to see if the new incoming Republican Senators would change that Nay to Yea. Now I am sure it will pass next year, the question in my mind is the number 67 as I think the President will veto it. Now the public seems for it:

Continued Support for Keystone XL Pipeline | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press
 
ernst barkmann said:
what is the earned income tax credit?
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The earned income tax credit (EITC), first proposed in the early 1970s, was signed by President Ford. It was later substantially expanded by President Reagan, who deemed it “the best anti-poverty, the best pro-family, the best job creation measure to come out of Congress” (Snyder 1995).​

The Earned Income Tax Credit and the Child Tax Credit: History, Purpose, Goals, and Effectiveness | Economic Policy Institute
 
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